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It really is baffling, why they would make their unibody macbook look like it has a drop-in plastic keyboard like those super cheap laptops. Where the entire keyboard is one part you can take off.

That is a crazy decision to make. Looks way cheaper, for no reason.

This seems a lot like they are trying to distance themselves from the Xiaomi RedmiBook 14 and RedmiBook 16 laptops, which are themselves knock off apple's keyboard design.

The Xiaomi's skipped the webcam. The more I look at that notch the more I hate it.

Apple should have made an underscreen camera, even if the quality sucked.
 
Now I know why they removed the 'MacBook Pro' branding from the display chin... there is simply no room for it now. ?
Apple has been going back and forth on this for a few years. On the pre-2016 retina MBP the branding is also missing from the chin.
 
Wait so if the Function button row is made of full size keys, that pushes the keyboard down, so is the trackpad actually smaller in height??
 
Man, I worked my a$$ of for my last MacBook Pro 15’ while I was finishing my B.A, and someone stole it a year after purchase. I ended up going with an iPad Pro and the new iMac’s so I could just have a powerful option at home, and an iPad for classes just taking notes. I was apprehensive at first, but it’s been one of the best fits for me in apple products since my first one in Junior high, haha.

Also pairs really well with my audio setup and both the iMac and iPad at leas cost then the 3600CAD I paid for that MacBook, lol. It was locked tho, but no location in the past two months. Not sure if it will ever turn up, but I’m always considering if someone else bought it not knowing it was stolen; would I feel bad and unlock it for them.
 
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Is the lack of Face ID in these models a hardware limitation or might Face ID come to these in a future update? Thanks.
FaceID on a laptop is a dumb idea for a couple of reasons. For it to work on your phone, you need to aim it at your head. If you miss, you move your hand a little. On a laptop, this will require you to monkey around with the angle of the display or your position in front of the camera. It's just not going to be nearly as seamless.

And for some things, you need to indicate positive acknowledgement rather than just having it passively allow something. That means pushing a key... which is really the same thing as touch ID.
 
FaceID on a laptop is a dumb idea for a couple of reasons. For it to work on your phone, you need to aim it at your head. If you miss, you move your hand a little. On a laptop, this will require you to monkey around with the angle of the display or your position in front of the camera. It's just not going to be nearly as seamless.

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Yeah, imagine "aiming" a laptop webcam at your face.

That would be nuts.

/sarcasm
 
I wish the whole MacBook was that dark of a finish and not just the keyboard area. The Space Grey has always been too light in my opinion.
Why oh why could I not have the entire laptop in a double anodized darker (preferably blue) finish?
I get the feeling this might just be them testing the waters with this new finish... they will see how well it holds up on a relatively small but high usage area, and maybe expand it to the whole computer for the M2 Pro edition?
 
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I know, and I personally prefer the branding. It just looks unfinished without it.
Seems like every time they shrink the bezel they remove it so people know it's smaller but they bring it back when they become worried that people might forget it's a MacBook Pro :p
 
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I agree with you on the current state for a computer use case but I truly think that with improved self cleaning algorithms in the display (for instance any modern LG OLED TV has auto clean phase which start after 4hr+usages silently when turned off to extend display lifespan and you can trigger on off/low/medium/high an auto setting to reduce contrasts on statics elements) and good settings built in the OS to reduce contrast and move slighlty statics elements we can accomodate these issue.
For a TV use which is easier to deal with, LG has very few burn-in issues for this use with all these improvements and now they just started to attack the high-end monitor market, so I'm pretty confident despite these issues.
4 hours, is that the case, I own an OLED LG tv, thought it was much longer.

I am not at all convinced it's smart for a Computer display, Linus (Youtube) has a video on his OLED display, he was raving about it just half a year ago, that was then, now, not so much, he's got burn-in.
 
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Looking at the video I couldn't help but notice that the TouchID ring doesn't look backlit. I wonder if it's not, or it just didn't pick up in the video. I hope it is.
 
That black stuff between keys, will it come off? Its metal or plastic/rubber? Does not look like a Mac to be honest
 
That black stuff between keys, will it come off? Its metal or plastic/rubber? Does not look like a Mac to be honest

It’s a dual coat anodization. If you claw at it with metal objects you’ll damage it, but in normal use it won’t wear.
 
It’s a dual coat anodization. If you claw at it with metal objects you’ll damage it, but in normal use it won’t wear.

Apple's black anodized products are known for chipping off. Will this be Apples first to be problem free for many years?

We'll see.

They made it look cheaper and introduced a visual failure point, which could lower the appeal of buying a used Macbook Pro in the future.
 
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