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I head someone make an excellent point about why no face ID… on phone you still need to double press a button for a purchase, if it was that what on the macbook one can as well stick with touch ID

Right. I like Touch ID better. Just curious if it’s hardware vs. software, since people are speculating the notch hints at Face ID coming to the MBPs. Thanks.
 
I stuck with a 2015 in hopes of waiting out dongle hell and the Touch Bar. This 2021 was an immediate purchase for me.

Dongle hell? Unless you are specifically using SD-Cards and HDMI constantly this doesn’t change things much.

Even then, if two adapters is “hell” then you’ve got some serious first world problems.
 
Every time I remove one of those plastic cases, the computer is scratched to heck from debris rubbing in between the plastic and the computer chassis, and typically the computer is quite nasty, like a horders house.

*It's my job. People, please clean your own computers! Second note, public teachers seem to be the worst at cleanliness.

And yes, I will skip as again no touch screen, and the bloom will be horrendous.

Oh, AND IT HAS MORE PORTS.....such sheep. You still need a ****ing dongle for USB-A! And no micro SD card slot...so for me....it adds nothing especially w/o HDMI 2.1
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Right. I like Touch ID better. Just curious if it’s hardware vs. software, since people are speculating the notch hints at Face ID coming to the MBPs. Thanks.
Perhaps FaceID will come to the Macs eventually, but I hope they retain TouchID also. I normally keep the camera covered up on my computers, so I have to uncover it whenever I want to use it. Also, I can operate the MacBook with the lid closed and an external monitor and still use TouchID via the Apple TouchID keyboard; if only FaceID is supported that would require that I open the MacBook up to use FaceID.
 
It really is baffling, why they would make their unibody macbook look like it has a drop-in plastic keyboard like those super cheap laptops. Where the entire keyboard is one part you can take off.






So when they get another class action lawsuit against them for a crappy keyboard, its easy to fix.
 
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Dongle hell? Unless you are specifically using SD-Cards and HDMI constantly this doesn’t change things much.

Even then, if two adapters is “hell” then you’ve got some serious first world problems.
"Dongle hell" is more of a complaint.

Its not the constantly using those ports, its the ability to use them when needed and not rely on dongles to be able to do so.

If you forget your dongles or don't have extras to bring around "just in case" then you're screwed.

But on another note, AT LEAST 1 USB-A port geez Apple! still need a dongle/adapter for those!
 
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Macs have always distingushed themselves from PC's by having a taller aspect ratio (16:10 instead of 16:9), giving better usability for productivity work. As illustrated by the pic in the original post, the notch pushes that further, leaving a full 16:10 below the top menu bar.

Effectively, the aspect ratio has changed from 16:10 (exactly) in the older machines, to 16:10.34 in the 16", and 16:10.39 in the 14".
 
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Other than the keyboard, which looks like something out of the 1970s, the rest looks pretty good. The notch isn't too bad.
 
Macs have always distingushed themselves from PC's by having a taller aspect ratio (16:10 instead fo 16:9), giving better usability for productivity work. As illustrated by the pic in the original post, the notch pushes that further, leaving a full 16:10 below the top menu bar.
Yeah, I'm being elitist, but 16:9 screams "pleb" to me more than anything else.
 
"Dongle hell" is more of a complaint.

Its not the constantly using those ports, its the ability to use them when needed and not rely on dongles to be able to do so.

If you forget your dongles or don't have extras to bring around "just in case" then you're screwed.

But on another note, AT LEAST 1 USB-A port geez Apple! still need a dongle/adapter for those!
USB-A isn't a Pro Port. Any Pro dropping the several thousand dollars on a MacBook Pro in 2021 will have already replaced whatever USB-A accessory or cable they had with a faster USB-C/Thunderbolt one.
 
Judging from the overwhelming majority of posts in this thread, it seems that most contributors are simply going to buy an MacBook Pro then sit there staring at it - waiting to find fault.

Hardly a single post on what these new computers can actually do. And surely that’s the most important thing. Never before in a Mac laptop will I have been able to do the amount of work I can with these, in the same amount of time.

So there may be a couple of teething problems (or not) and they may not be exactly to your tastes. Who cares? They’re a tool to get a job done. Unless, of course, you’re buying one as a status symbol.
 
The keyboard.... the keys look exactly the same as magic scissors keys. Was hoping for keyboard improvement.
After the butterfly debacle I think we’d all be better off if they never change the keyboard again. Ever.
 
Sweet. Only thing I don't like is the all-black KB. Looks cheap.
Agreed. As others have said, it makes it look like a generic Windows laptop. Seeing the aluminum background under the keys is, IMO, much nicer. But I expect I'd get used to it.

Would love to know what was behind the discussions that led to the black background choice.
 
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