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First Real-World Photos and Video of New MacBook Pro Models Begin to Surface

Saturnine said:
Judging from the overwhelming majority of posts in this thread, it seems that most contributors are simply going to buy an MacBook Pro then sit there staring at it - waiting to find fault.

Hardly a single post on what these new computers can actually do. And surely that’s the most important thing. Never before in a Mac laptop will I have been able to do the amount of work I can with these, in the same amount of time.

So there may be a couple of teething problems (or not) and they may not be exactly to your tastes. Who cares? They’re a tool to get a job done. Unless, of course, you’re buying one as a status symbol.
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That's because this entire thread is based on a MacRumors report about the new Mac's appearance! So of course the discussion is going to be about appearance. If you visit another thread that starts with a MacRumors report about its performance, then you'll see the entire discussion is about performance (e.g., https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...s-like-color-grading-8k-prores-video.2318648/). Sheesh!

I'd say good for us for keeping on-topic!
 
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nsayer said:
FaceID on a laptop is a dumb idea for a couple of reasons. For it to work on your phone, you need to aim it at your head. If you miss, you move your hand a little. On a laptop, this will require you to monkey around with the angle of the display or your position in front of the camera. It's just not going to be nearly as seamless.

And for some things, you need to indicate positive acknowledgement rather than just having it passively allow something. That means pushing a key... which is really the same thing as touch ID.
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I have used Windows Hello IR on a laptop before. You lift the lid and it logs you in. There's no angling that's needed. FaceID should be superior with ToF sensors unless the angle is not as good as IR right now.
 
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Saturnine said:
Judging from the overwhelming majority of posts in this thread, it seems that most contributors are simply going to buy an MacBook Pro then sit there staring at it - waiting to find fault.

Hardly a single post on what these new computers can actually do. And surely that’s the most important thing. Never before in a Mac laptop will I have been able to do the amount of work I can with these, in the same amount of time.

So there may be a couple of teething problems (or not) and they may not be exactly to your tastes. Who cares? They’re a tool to get a job done. Unless, of course, you’re buying one as a status symbol.
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That’s because this thread is about the first image and video of the new MacBook Pro, so it’s all about the first impressions of the non-rendered and real world look and aesthetics of the machine.

There will be plenty of threads about performance and what they can do when people actually start to receive them. I think that’s when the enthusiasm for the performance and power will outweigh the current obsession with the new design.
 
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nsayer said:
FaceID on a laptop is a dumb idea for a couple of reasons. For it to work on your phone, you need to aim it at your head. If you miss, you move your hand a little. On a laptop, this will require you to monkey around with the angle of the display or your position in front of the camera. It's just not going to be nearly as seamless.

And for some things, you need to indicate positive acknowledgement rather than just having it passively allow something. That means pushing a key... which is really the same thing as touch ID.
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You raise some good points. But I would still like to see Center Stage and don’t understand why it seemingly wasn’t included.

sudo-sandwich said:
It's ugly, but if it's a dealbreaker by itself, I'm gonna assume you don't really need the new laptop.
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That’s like saying if you don’t like the bright lime-green color of a car, than you really didn’t need a car. There’s a reason things come in different colors. Sheesh. ?
 
WiseAJ said:
USB-A isn't a Pro Port. Any Pro dropping the several thousand dollars on a MacBook Pro in 2021 will have already replaced whatever USB-A accessory or cable they had with a faster USB-C/Thunderbolt one.
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until they go to a client/place for work where they haven't updated their equipment.....
 
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rednabor said:
Yes, yes it was. Have you actually seen the quality of the webcam on this XPS? See it, you will be pro-notch in less than 1 second. It makes the iPod Nano camera look like a DSLR.
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I would rather prioritize the screen over a 1080p camera until the technology can catch up. The screen is one of the most important aspects of a laptop. But that's just me since I rarely use the webcam. Not sure what kind of telemetry that Apple has. I think the notch is nothing more than a forcing function on branding.
 
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On the right I see a computer, on the left I see a notch.

Look at the one on you your phone and then look at the MacBook, why is it so damn big!?
 
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Saturnine said:
Judging from the overwhelming majority of posts in this thread, it seems that most contributors are simply going to buy an MacBook Pro then sit there staring at it - waiting to find fault.

Hardly a single post on what these new computers can actually do. And surely that’s the most important thing. Never before in a Mac laptop will I have been able to do the amount of work I can with these, in the same amount of time.

So there may be a couple of teething problems (or not) and they may not be exactly to your tastes. Who cares? They’re a tool to get a job done. Unless, of course, you’re buying one as a status symbol.
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I agree. I'm not sure I like the black keyboard, but I'll live with it. I havent yet decided on the notch: On the one hand, its extra screen space above the normal 16:10 area that if nothing else allows a full 16:10 area below the main Mac menubar; which might be useful on small laptop screens. On the other hand it looks sort of awkward, but perhaps that just a perception because it looks different than what we are used to, and I suspect that after a while I'll fail to notice it. And when the laptop is closed and external monitors are being used the notch goes away and isnt really an issue (and my external monitors are 16:9 anyway). And these MacBooks have seemingly prioritized performance over the quest for laptop thinness. And what performance. In the past I'd never have been able to consider using the same system at the desk and on the road across all the different tasks for which I need/want to use the computer, now its a reality. My struggles have been deciding between 14" and 16" and recognizing that while the M1 MBP/Air systems got most of the way there these 14"/16" MBP systems truly get all of the way there in terms of what I currently need and envision needing/wanting over the next 3-4 years...The tool isnt going to be my limiting factor....
 
Black anodization around the keyboard

theorist9 said:
As others have said, it makes it look like a generic Windows laptop. Seeing the aluminum background under the keys is, IMO, much nicer. But I expect I'd get used to it.

Would love to know what was behind the discussions that led to the black background choice.
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It's a great way to make it less appealing to buy a used MacBook Pro in the future.

Because it will inevitably rub and chip off over a few years of use, especially above the arrow keys, since anodization is just a surface treatment.

But... we'll see.
 
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I'm probably gonna get stoned for this... but ... that comparison painfully makes me aware of how much bigger the new 14" is compared to the 13". In other devices, when they increased screen size by reducing bezel size, they managed to keep the overall footprint the same or close to the same. This may not seem like a big deal to some, but in this case it's quite a huge increase in footprint ... which may end up actually being a dealbreaker for me. I don't care about the 16", never was in the market for that one. But a laptop in that size range should remain as portable as possible and that increased footprint makes it less so... needing more space in backpacks, on tables (I can't see myself fitting this one on an air plane tray table), on my ... gasp... LAP ....

I've been in love with the MBA ever since it came out, but went MBP the last time I had to upgrade for lack of retina display at that time. I've been tempted to go back to the MBA especially after the latest update, but those new MBPs really had me at MAGSAFE as well as all that power (I actually do need quite a bit of power for my work; I just really do prefer the design of the MBA). I've really been leaning heavily towards that new MBP, now (and really don't feel like waiting till whenever they may update the MBA at an indefinite future point) but man, that footprint might indeed be a deal breaker for me ... :(
 
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Great machine, the Apple Silicon is one of the best things Apple ever did on decades. But this notch is absolutely hideous, ridiculous and unnecessary. I'd prefer an old and crappy 720p webcam with no notch over this thing. I never used and never will use webcams on my notebooks. I'll keep my 2019 MB Pro 16" for a few more years. For CUDA and gaming I have my bricky and clumsy PC notebook with Ryzen 7 and RTX 3060.
 
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BreakYurAnkles said:
until they go to a client/place for work where they haven't updated their equipment.....
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And those limited use cases are what the adaptors are for.

It's not worth sacrificing one of the more useful/versatile Thunderbolt ports for a old USB-A port. We already had to lose one of the four they used to have for the built in HDMI Port/SD Card Slot.
 
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Black anodization around the keyboard



It's a great way to make it less appealing to buy a used MacBook Pro in the future.

Because it will inevitably rub and chip off over a few years of use, especially above the arrow keys, since anodization is just a surface treatment.

But... we'll see.
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Is the black anodization under the new keyboards chemically different from the anodization they use for the silver and space gray colors? If not, I wouldn't expect a difference in durability.
 
theorist9 said:
Is the black anodization under the new keyboards chemically different from the anodization they use for the silver and space gray colors? If not, I wouldn't expect a difference in durability.
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Well... as the anodization gets darker, chips and discoloration (rub off) get more visible.

That's why they do space gray in the first place.

But we really don't know for sure yet how this will hold up over years of rubbing and scratching with fingernails. What we do know is that all their products so far (aside from space gray) have this problem.
 
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