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As I was reading your note, I also note that my screen where that notch will eventually be... is completely unused. It's the kind of thing some people will complain about just because they see it, but they prior to that it never occurred to them that nothing of interest ever occupied that space anyway. ?

Often, people complain about what they don’t immediately like. More often than not, they grow to love it.
 
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How does this work though when you use split screen and the close, minimize, maximize buttons are inside the notch for the right most window?
Looks uhhh nice?
 

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It's particularly worth comparing the new black keyboard to the (IMO, superior) elegance of the keyboard on the old space gray MBP.

I'm starting to think their main purpose in changing was simply to distinguish the appearance of the new MBP's from the old ones—even a better-looking product can seem dated after it's been out for a while.

Alternately: The black background does give it a more "industrial" look than the more polished consumer look of the last gen MBP. Maybe they were going for that.

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You do realize that the specific camera lenses (used in current iphones) have nothing to do with face id?
The whole FaceID aparatus is with IR emitter and the rest is not a small component. There is a lot less depth in the lid of a laptop than in a phone.
 
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For how long?
OLED is NOT a good idea on a display that mostly contains static content, even after all improvements, and I laugh at touchscreens on Computer screens, simply a bad idea.
I agree with your point on touchscreens, they just don't work great with laptops.

I disagree on OLEDs, while burn in is a concern I thin it is really overblown. My iPhone has a lot of static images on screen quite a lot of the time and it's a non issue on iPhone. Personally I wish the 14" MBP I just ordered came with OLED rather than LCD.
 
Was that bottom chin necessary?

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Wow.... indeed the MBP has a big chin and, what's worse, it's asymmetric. (This was BTW the biggest aesthetic problem with the Dell 5k monitor back in the day.) By shifting down the active area of the screen a bit would have made 1, it vertically symmetric 2, do away the notch entirely :/
 
Seriously people, put your critical thinking cap on.

That webcam is only 720p.

And I don't think the Dell has indicator lights but I might be wrong.
It's 720p AND 30fps with terrible aperture and lenses. It's a bad 720p camera vs what I'm sure is a very good 1080p60 FaceTime camera.
 
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The XPS has a webcam too. So no, not only was the bottom chin not necessary, but neither was the notch.
Yup. I certainly don't but Apple couldn't have made a significantly smaller camera module. Every other manufacturer is capable of doing so - why didn't they?
 
The black on black keyboard looks fine. Don’t really care. Even the notch isn’t so bad if it’s all everybody is saying. We get more space so it’s all good. But it is ugly overall. That thing looks like a bus! But under the hood it’s gonna fly so can forgive Apple.
 
Wow, lots of people really upset about the notch. I mean, I don't think it makes it look better than the old MBPs, but I don't think it really makes it look any worse either. It seems like a lateral move, at least.

For the people who can't stand it though, I think we can pretty much guarantee there'll be a one-click freeware tool within a few weeks of release that bumps the menu bar down to just below the notch and fills the space above with black. With the Mini-LED display, you shouldn't even see any backlight bleed! If you hate it that much, it'll be like the notch was never there in the first place.
 
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It reminds me a lot of the Titanium PowerBook G4 (all black keyboard) and later aluminium PowerBook G4 (squarer design). I think they took a lot of inspiration from those models. And it sounds like the next MacBook Air will be taking inspiration from the iBook G3 (the colours) and later iBooks (all white).

Interesting.
 
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