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My recommendation is to hold off downloading it.

It's not THAT much different, and it's "hard crashed" on me around 3 times a day in the last week (grey screen of death - requiring a full reboot)..

Wait for the patches imho

I've decided to wait, if this was last year when I had nothing major going on then I would have probably installed a GM release like I did for Mavericks. But simply can't afford the risks right now. Also Mavericks has been perfect tbh, nothing has gone wrong since I upgraded last year.
 
What a BS statement. No operating system upgrade has ever given me as much trouble as the upgrade to Mavericks.

I upgraded Linux 20 years ago, at a time when Slackware was still in its 2.x versions, when compiling the kernel yourself was still normal, and X11 configuration was a lottery that could destroy your monitor, and still, that was less stressful than my Mavericks upgrade.

It's always guys like these that have problems: The tinkerers. An OS X install is 2 to 3 clicks. It's as easy as it gets.

But obviously you must have your system ****ed up, somehow, with a gazzilion "tweaks" made specially by you (after all, you know better than the engineers at Apple, MS, OEMs, Google, etc. It's YOUR machine!) and **** happens.

I know a lot of people that use their computers for many tasks (medics, students) but they don't "tinker" with them, because these machines aren't toys but tools to them, and they updated without problem.

But tinkerers... They always end with something ****ed up. So a Linux update is easy. Yeah yeah... Just visit any linux forum with veteran members slamming canonical for stupid erros even through software center updates, not to mentioning the always necessary (for linux and windows users, to avoid ****-storms) fresh installs.

I've decided to wait, if this was last year when I had nothing major going on then I would have probably installed a GM release like I did for Mavericks. But simply can't afford the risks right now. Also Mavericks has been perfect tbh, nothing has gone wrong since I upgraded last year.

Update, friend. I have a 2011 MBAir: Already as fast and solid as mavericks was in 10.9.5, with some major improvements besides design. Flawless update, too.

Of course you must understand that only people with problems complain, and that's why most are here. A user without problems is less likely to come here. Any question you might have, I answer/help if I can.
 
Why, are people less likely to update an OS if more people use it? There's easily a big enough sample size of Mac users to not have to worry about fluke cases. This statistic quite accurately says that the average Windows user is less likely to update than the average Mac user. I don't see anything misleading here.

1) windows does not do major OS upgrades annually.

2) windows upgrades are not free.

3) windows 8 (specifically) introduced new features aimed at touch capabilities which for most people means purchasing a new computer/tablet with touch capability.

4) Microsoft continues supporting operating systems for 10+ years after release.

5) almost three times as many computer users chose Windows 8 than chose any version of OSX.

There are so many factors that make the comparison pointless. I have nothing to prove either way, but looking purely at a percentage figure is effectively meaningless.

Besides, a rapid uptake of a new OS could also read as users being unhappy with the existing OS and wanting a change. One could conclude that Mac users are unhappy with their current OS, windows uses are mostly content.

Percentage data that doesn't consider variables and context is meaningless. It is just data, not information.
 
There are people installing it with 4GB of RAM and it is absolutely fine.

8GB of RAM is a lot, and way more than enough to run Yosemite. People that don't know a whole lot about computers just tend to think RAM is far more important than it is. If you're not playing games or using professional software, you could run 4GB of RAM for years and never notice an issue. Even with games, 8GB is about the max used right now.

If you're experiencing lag on Yosemite, it's most likely your processor. Remember the benchmarks showing the new A8X to be faster than 2008 MacBook Pro's? Yeah, your processor is showing its age.

Lack of SSD and old GPU could be a factor as well.
 
8GB of RAM is a lot, and way more than enough to run Yosemite. People that don't know a whole lot about computers just tend to think RAM is far more important than it is. If you're not playing games or using professional software, you could run 4GB of RAM for years and never notice an issue. Even with games, 8GB is about the max used right now.

If you're experiencing lag on Yosemite, it's most likely your processor. Remember the benchmarks showing the new A8X to be faster than 2008 MacBook Pro's? Yeah, your processor is showing its age.

Not. the problem is not having SSDs.
 
It's always guys like these that have problems: The tinkerers. An OS X install is 2 to 3 clicks. It's as easy as it gets.

But obviously you must have your system ****ed up, somehow, with a gazzilion "tweaks" made specially by you (after all, you know better than the engineers at Apple, MS, OEMs, Google, etc. It's YOUR machine!) and **** happens.

I know a lot of people that use their computers for many tasks (medics, students) but they don't "tinker" with them, because these machines aren't toys but tools to them, and they updated without problem.

But tinkerers... They always end with something ****ed up. So a Linux update is easy. Yeah yeah... Just visit any linux forum with veteran members slamming canonical for stupid erros even through software center updates, not to mentioning the always necessary (for linux and windows users, to avoid ****-storms) fresh installs.



Update, friend. I have a 2011 MBAir: Already as fast and solid as mavericks was in 10.9.5, with some major improvements besides design. Flawless update, too.

Of course you must understand that only people with problems complain, and that's why most are here. A user without problems is less likely to come here. Any question you might have, I answer/help if I can.

Not always the "Tinkerers" when I installed Mavericks last year it bricked my machine and I had to take to the Apple Store. I couldn't even do a Time Machine restore on it.
 
I'm on version 8. It's stable and runs Windows 7 just fine, so to spend another $40 isn't worth it to me (nor the time to reconfigure that POS Parallels Tools).

There is no "reconfiguring" needed for Parallels Tools.
 
I'm staying on Mavericks on my 2012 Mac Mini, I like it and frankly I'm afraid to update.

The update has solved most of the problems I was facing on my 2012, particularly lags at startup/user switch and app launch. Word still lags when I copy/paste large text for some reason, but everything else is much smoother.
YMMV
 
8GB of RAM is a lot, and way more than enough to run Yosemite. People that don't know a whole lot about computers just tend to think RAM is far more important than it is. If you're not playing games or using professional software, you could run 4GB of RAM for years and never notice an issue. Even with games, 8GB is about the max used right now.

If you're experiencing lag on Yosemite, it's most likely your processor. Remember the benchmarks showing the new A8X to be faster than 2008 MacBook Pro's? Yeah, your processor is showing its age.

Lack of SSD and old GPU could be a factor as well.

It's very much to do with SSDs. I did an experiment involving an early '09 whitebook with 2GB RAM, a 7200rpm hard drive, and an SSD.

It crawls on the hard drive, and is just fine on the SSD.

Processor is a 2.0 GHz core 2 duo (Penryn) with Nvidia 9400m iGPU.

With Apple only selling 3 computers with spinning drives now (and expect both Mac mini and iMac to be completely solid state at their next update, and for the 13"cMBP to be discontinued soon as Ivy bridge processors are phased out), they aren't optimising for spinning media any more.
 
Yea that 12.26% is part of a MUCH larger number. That's like there being only two Macs in the world and one had Yosemite installed. Then it would be 50%. Gotta love how they twist the truth.

of course the new Mac install base will be much larger than when Mavericks was released as well. All of these percentages need real numbers
 
1) windows does not do major OS upgrades annually.

2) windows upgrades are not free.

3) windows 8 (specifically) introduced new features aimed at touch capabilities which for most people means purchasing a new computer/tablet with touch capability.

4) Microsoft continues supporting operating systems for 10+ years after release.

5) almost three times as many computer users chose Windows 8 than chose any version of OSX.

There are so many factors that make the comparison pointless. I have nothing to prove either way, but looking purely at a percentage figure is effectively meaningless.

Besides, a rapid uptake of a new OS could also read as users being unhappy with the existing OS and wanting a change. One could conclude that Mac users are unhappy with their current OS, windows uses are mostly content.

Percentage data that doesn't consider variables and context is meaningless. It is just data, not information.

Always annoying when Mac fans and so called reporters try and compare a FREE OS update to a PAID one. Of course percentage wise OSX will seem to look better. But look at the NUMBERS of people who upgrade their Windows OS and it's almost ALWAYS a number that far surpasses OSX. Percentages are pointless. And again, OSX upgrades are free verses $100 to upgrade Windows.

Like the OP said, Windows also isn't upgraded on a yearly basis and unlike Apple, MS doesn't "pester" you to update by gimping software upgrades unless you get the latest OS. For Example I got error messages saying I couldn't upgrade to iTunes 12, Xcode, etc... Unless I had Yosemite. Well, iTunes did manage to update, but I can't update any of the development tools unless I move to Yosemite... Which is crap.
 
er, no, no it isn't at all. A percentage is a relative unit of measurement. It's point and intention is not to imply total volumes, but rather (and only) relativity. That OS X has a higher upgrade adoption rate *among its own user base* than Windows among its own base, is entirely relevant and useful data.

There's no twisting of truth because they're aren't discussing installed user base or market share at all. Two entirely different conversations and data points.

Man you guys try hard to hate. It's crazy.

In fairness, Microsoft has a far higher percentage of corporate and government customers that rarely upgrade. Most people running low-end computers in the third world are also using Windows, since they can't afford a Mac. On top of that, Windows upgrades are expensive. The advertised price is around $100+.

So not really a useful comparison. Furthermore, due to the smaller total numbers, Apple really needs to keep more users on the same OS. That reduces software development costs for third-parties, and makes it more likely that they'll make software for the Mac, or even update their old stuff.
 
Always annoying when Mac fans and so called reporters try and compare a FREE OS update to a PAID one. Of course percentage wise OSX will seem to look better. But look at the NUMBERS of people who upgrade their Windows OS and it's almost ALWAYS a number that far surpasses OSX. Percentages are pointless. And again, OSX upgrades are free verses $100 to upgrade Windows.

Microsoft can barely get their users to take advantage of the free 8.1 upgrade.
 
For me, Yosemite has been a cleaner upgrade with drivers working on day one. I suspect this is hugely a result of releasing betas to the public. That was a smart move by Apple.
 
I had to remove it from my early 2009 iMac.

It wasn't running smoothly at all, got the swirling rainbow icon too many times. Slow, 8GB of ram was just not enough to handle it.

Mavericks was ok, still a bit slow.

Mountain Lion is where I ended up, perfect for what I need it for.
Lol 8 GB not enough to handle it... It works perfectly fine with 8 GB.
 
After loading it up on a spare HD, I played with it for 15 minutes before deciding that the UI (esp. Mail.app) sucked so badly that it would trash my productivity. Too bad because I lust after a few of the features like continuity and automatic personal hotspot activation, and the ability to send SMS from my Mac.
 
I have been loving it so far! Absolutely wonderful release, personally i'm not dealing with any bugs at all, the UI takes some time to get used to but it's lovely.
 
Evidence? I've never seen a computer lag due to a traditional hard drisk. If Apple designed their software that way, that's a really poor design.

Evidence? What the ****... Look activity monitor and how many page-outs do you have: RAM is not a problem.

Processor speed is pretty much unchanged in the last few years... The system is always waiting fro info to process. SSD is responsible for extremely fast boot-up times, opening apps, loading files, etc. Many features are even requiring it, like app nap.

At this point in history, asking for "evidence" relating with this subject is just a completely joke. Use Google.

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My 2011 iMac doesn't have SSD and it runs Yosemite fine.

Of course it does. Bur if any computer is slow and you have more than 2gb of ram, the problem is the hard drive. Not the processor, not anything: The hard drive.
 
I have a Late 2013 rMBP 13" (8/256). The only real annoying thing about Yosemite for me is that the startup time takes 5 seconds instead of 2-3 seconds. I now see a status bar while the OS starts up. I'm getting used to it, but it was annoying at first, since it reminds me of the old status bars in Windows that would take a long time. I'm not sure how it would perform with traditional hard drive instead of SSD.

I like the simplified look of the flat design. I usually only have one window open at a time and prefer it to be full screen but with the menu bars visible, so the new maximize button is different. When I do have multiple windows open, the extra white space can be a bit much, especially since the window borders are so thin. It will get some getting used to. Also, dark mode is great for contrasting all the white on the screen.
 
I get some graphical corruption from time to time that clears up but Yosemite is a big improvement over the previous version.
 
Eh, weak argument. Nearly half a billion iPhones have been sold and more than half of all iPhones are running the latest OS.

And apple's software updates are easy and free, unlike windows.

It's really completely meaningless when you can't revert backwards.

You can't celebrate how many iOS devices are on the latest software when all the new ones are permanently on it (had no choice at all), while the rest were updated and stuck there. With that in mind, the adoption rates are actually not nearly as high as one might expect them to be.

In any case, it's interesting to see Yosemite catch on. I wouldn't expect it to be much quicker than it is at the moment.
 
It's always guys like these that have problems: The tinkerers. An OS X install is 2 to 3 clicks. It's as easy as it gets.

But obviously you must have your system ****ed up, somehow, with a gazzilion "tweaks" made specially by you (after all, you know better than the engineers at Apple, MS, OEMs, Google, etc. It's YOUR machine!) and **** happens.
I am not a tinkerer. It's been a long time since my PC was my hobby. My Mac is not my hobby, but a tool. Yes, I know more about computers and software than you, but that doesn't mean that I "tinker".

With every post I see from you, I see more BS.

During the update process, Mavericks decided to rename an external volume, making it unaccessible, and it was extremely difficult to discover the problem and nearly as difficult to revert that change. Attaching an external hard drive is "tinkering"? That update was significantly more than 2 to 3 clicks.

Really, you are defending something without having a clue, blaming people for Apple's mistakes, only because you have been lucky enough to have smooth upgrades so far, as if you're hoping that some Apple employees are reading this and will send you an honorary Apple sticker when you collect enough brownie points. If I had said that I don't have any computer experience, you would have said "It's always the clueless ones who have problems!" Well, sooner or later, an update will mess up your tinker-free system, and you will waste half a weekend on it (if you can fix it at all). Then let's see if you continue collecting brownie points.
 
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