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For people that have ALREADY completed 2.0.2 update,do you notice anything different?

the only thing I've noticed is that I downloaded the tank cannon game and it worked now whereas before it crashed.

I agree things will improve
 
pj rage said:
Dumbest. Statement. Ever.
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No, this is the dumbest statement ever:

Barack Obama is very well qualified to be President of the United States and our country has improved considerably since the Democrats took Congress in 2006.

:)
 
There are a bunch of things that work better for me. The lag to open SMS and to access the keyboard is gone. Safari is much faster over wifi (my signal strength at home is awful so I can't check Safari over the air). The battery is working better, but that may be due to my running a couple cycles on the battery. I no longer have to reboot Mail to get it to work properly. My photo albums open much more quickly.

Overall the phone is working much better now.
 
Maui19 said:
There are a bunch of things that work better for me. The lag to open SMS and to access the keyboard is gone. Safari is much faster over wifi (my signal strength at home is awful so I can't check Safari over the air). The battery is working better, but that may be due to my running a couple cycles on the battery. I no longer have to reboot Mail to get it to work properly. My photo albums open much more quickly.

Overall the phone is working much better now.
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Sorry, but the SMS lag is *not* gone. You're experiencing the result of the phone having been reset and rebooted during the update. You could accomplish the same thing by rebooting it in 2.0.1 or 2.0.0. After a few minutes or hours the lag is back. I installed 2.0.2 this morning and the phone was responsive for an hour or so, but now it's the same as before... bring up contacts and the screen freezes for 2-3 seconds... bring up SMS and the keys lag horribly... switch to landscape mode in Safari and watch the choppy and laggy transition...
 
Anybody else notice that the click sounds are louder now?

Also, there is a longer lag between the time the phone starts vibrating and the phone starts ringing when I get an incoming call.
 
I don't know if it's placebo or not, but I feel like there's less overall lag than before. In typing, Safari browsing (typing as well), Gmaps, loading apps etc. I reboot my iPhone all the time, so it's not like I am not used to resetting it. I guess I'll have to wait and see. Lastly, no Safari crashes yet. Even if it still does crash, hopefully they made it better. 2.0 / 2.0.1 I was crashing 2 + times a day. I've yet to crash :).
 
AustinSTI said:
Look folks this wasn't a placebo but it sure wasn't our silver bullet either. My observations are that it didn't fix anything we wanted. Keyboard lag in the mail app this morning was horrid for me, I don't buy the snappier effect, and I get the same 3G signal I got yesterday.

That being said and knowing how development cycles work this update was probably a security update of some sort or something that was discovered in the 2.1 testing and put retroactively into the 2.0 branch. Typically when you release software you have a small team running maintenance while the core team charges ahead on the next release. If the 2.0 team fixes something those fixes are likely pushed up to the 2.1 team. If the 2.1 team finds or fixes something it can depend on whether the 2.1 team's fix will fit readily into 2.0 or not. For example a fix to 3G reception by the 2.1 team would almost certainly NOT be retrofitted into 2.0.

This being said certain assumptions can be made:

2.1 is the update we've been waiting for. 3G, Keyboard lag etc.
2.0.1 and 2.0.2 are not and any 2.0.x release won't be. 2.0.2 probably fixed a major bug or security hole discovered internally in one of the deep libraries. When its dissected (if it is) its likely that it'd be found to have one or two core libraries that were changed and that's it (remember 1.0.2 - another security fix)? This also makes sense as to why Apple isn't publishing the specific fixes because they don't want to publish an undocumented security hole or point hackers in a direction.
2.0.2 wasn't planned which supports the security fix theory. If it wasn't planned it wouldn't have come out just a few days after beta 4 of 2.1 was seeded. 2.1 is due EOM or End of next month. Either way its due soon. I believe its EOM and that's why they pulled push notifications. 4-5 betas is more than enough. Given this whatever was in 2.0.2 was important enough for a release to be done with haste (again lending itself to security theory).

What's this mean for us? Sigh more waiting for the 3G reception issue to be fixed, the keyboard lag, etc to be fixed. Hopefully in the next week we'll get it...
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Excellent explanation. Thank you. :)
I just posted this comment from my phone and we CAN scroll down within a text box - just hold down your finger at the bottom edge of the box and it will scroll down.
 
The BIG question

My phone works fine with 2.0 and due to problems that I am hearing I don't plan to upgrade to 2.01 or 2.02 or 2.0x.

When 2.1 comes out and I update the phone do I miss all the "goodies" that 2.01 or 2.02 possess? Do I need to update everytime new ones come out???

Thanks guys
 
Nothing here. Seems I've lost a bar since the update.

One thing is that the green line is still there in the lyrics (when you have lyrics on screen, tap the lyrics to hide them. the green line shows up in the upper right hand corner as the lyrics are fading out).
 
Things I've noticed, no idea if these were caused by the 2.0.2 update, or just random:

- GPS is a lot faster / more likely to pinpoint my location. This is indoors in the exact location where it used to always fail before. Other factors could cause this though..

- Backup after updating is significantly faster. However, I wonder if this is because I just backed up before the update, so there would be fewer changes, hence quicker backup?

- The cracks at the back of my iPhone are much smaller now.

- My left nipple is 2.1mm higher than my right nipple. Apple, please fix this.
 
2.0.2 vs. 2.0.1 Side by Side Comparison

I updated one of my iPhones to 2.0.2 but left another with 2.0.1. I rebooted both (to isolate that variable for all you science aficionados out there) and set them side-by-side on my kitchen counter.

Here's an interesting comparison (sorry for the ugly table) in regards to displayed reception (number of bars):

_____________2.0.2________2.0.1
EDGE___________4___________4
3G (wifi off)_____3___________2
WiFi on_________3___________2


Coincidence? Hard to say with n=2. Perhaps one of you could create a randomized, placebo-controlled, prospective cohort study with sufficient sample size to eliminate random variation. Say, take 500 or so iPhones to the top 50 population centers of the country and get back to us.

Meanwhile, I'm getting back to my life now (happy with my iPhone).

Also, I ran a few apps simultaneously and noticed absolutely no difference in responsiveness. And I did have one Safari crash (back to desktop) on the 2.0.2 (earlier, not during the test).
 
FearlessFreep said:
I guess it bears repeating again ... this is a x.x.2 release, and as such you can expect only incremental improvements. No doubt there are some bugs that have been fixed, but certainly not all and probably more remain unfixed than fixed at this point.
Wait it out. This is the consequence of being an early adopter. It will improve and Apple will iron things out. There is too much at stake for them not to get it fixed. If you can't handle a slightly-buggy device for a short time, then you shouldn't have made the purchase but should have waited.
I will take the 3G iPhone in its current state over anything else available right now because for all its faults, I still really like the device and know it will get better.
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+10.
 
ringtone volume defaulting to 50% after playing music has been fixed, when you pull out your headphones (from the headphone jack) the ringer goes back to where you had it set.
 
radwolf89 said:
I updated one of my iPhones to 2.0.2 but left another with 2.0.1. I rebooted both (to isolate that variable for all you science aficionados out there) and set them side-by-side on my kitchen counter.

Here's an interesting comparison (sorry for the ugly table) in regards to displayed reception (number of bars):

_____________2.0.2________2.0.1
EDGE___________4___________4
3G (wifi off)_____3___________2
WiFi on_________3___________2


Coincidence? Hard to say with n=2. Perhaps one of you could create a randomized, placebo-controlled, prospective cohort study with sufficient sample size to eliminate random variation. Say, take 500 or so iPhones to the top 50 population centers of the country and get back to us.

Meanwhile, I'm getting back to my life now (happy with my iPhone).

Also, I ran a few apps simultaneously and noticed absolutely no difference in responsiveness. And I did have one Safari crash (back to desktop) on the 2.0.2 (earlier, not during the test).
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Rebooting doesn't fix some things...when I use my phone for a few day, app installation and contacts are super slow, even when I reboot. Best bet would be to restore one to 2.0.2 then restore another to 2.0.1.
 
radwolf89 said:
No, this is the dumbest statement ever:

Barack Obama is very well qualified to be President of the United States and our country has improved considerably since the Democrats took Congress in 2006.

:)
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Cuz we'll be so much better off when McCain's old ass has a heart attack first week in office:p
 
btcutter said:
My phone works fine with 2.0 and due to problems that I am hearing I don't plan to upgrade to 2.01 or 2.02 or 2.0x.

When 2.1 comes out and I update the phone do I miss all the "goodies" that 2.01 or 2.02 possess? Do I need to update everytime new ones come out???

Thanks guys
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There aren't any real goodies to speak of. But all updates are cumulative, so you won't miss anything.
 
i feel like my 3G reception has gotten worse. :(

getting consistently a bar less and when i test 3G speed on testmyiphone.com i'm averaging .75 Mbps now versus 1.10-1.25 before.
 
Once again wildly different experiences...simply can't make any concrete conclusions based on feedback here. People are all over the board. :eek:
 
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