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I went to this last night; the place was packed. Scott was really amazing, very charismatic and a wonderful story teller, very humorous. It seems to me he has moved on past tech and is more interested in this theater work. He still advises startups but doesn't seem like he wants to go beyond that. He did address the stripped shirt, like Steve, he buys a lot of what he likes.

The previous panel was great too, very informative.
 
The problem with your hope is Steve specifically groomed both Tim and Ive and left specific instructions they were his choices going forward. I think Laurene would have something to say about that as well.

I'm not convinced Steve, in the last one to two years of his illness, put together the pipeline in place his media mouthpiece says he did. I think you need to take much of it with a grain of salt. Did he crack TV? No. And grooming other people...
 
"It began because Steve hated this guy at Microsoft. That is the actual origin," Forstall said, before adding that it wasn't Bill Gates. After hearing the person boast about Microsoft's tablet and stylus development, said Forstall, "Steve came in on a Monday, there was a set of expletives and then he said, 'Let's show them how it's really done'."
Article Link: Former iOS Chief Scott Forstall Discusses Creating the First iPhone
And even after "...showing them how it's really done" Microsoft somehow managed to squander their opportunities and competitive advantages, even when they had something better than the iPad in their hands, like the Courier tablet.
 
As compared to iOS 11? With that good looking control centre that isn't a mess, the notification centre that makes perfect design sense, and the rest of the UI filled with blown up fonts and tons of white space everywhere which isn't so blinding to the point where everyone isn't practically begging for a dark mode? Let's shove reduce motion, darken colours, reduce transparency, button shapes etc. in the settings to make the OS more barable, eh?

iOS 6 had none of this and in my opinion still looks premium and not a cheap toy with no personality, joy, or warmth. It also performs better than a 2017 A10 iPhone (I know because I have an iPhone 5 running iOS 6), and has virtually zero lag or random jitters unlike today. A 4 year old OS running on 2012 hardware that runs smoother and more seamless than todays. Oh, and a music app didn't completely suck balls.
The fake fur,leather and chrome was a bad design then and it is now. And Apple Maps is still a hot mess
 
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As compared to iOS 11? With that good looking control centre that isn't a mess, the notification centre that makes perfect design sense, and the rest of the UI filled with blown up fonts and tons of white space everywhere which isn't so blinding to the point where everyone isn't practically begging for a dark mode? Let's shove reduce motion, darken colours, reduce transparency, button shapes etc. in the settings to make the OS more barable, eh?

iOS 6 had none of this and in my opinion still looks premium and not a cheap toy with no personality, joy, or warmth. It also performs better than a 2017 A10 iPhone (I know because I have an iPhone 5 running iOS 6), and has virtually zero lag or random jitters unlike today. A 4 year old OS running on 2012 hardware that runs smoother and more seamless than todays. Oh, and a music app didn't completely suck balls.
iOS 6 didn't have a control center at all.
 
I would LOVE to be a person working soley in an advisory role and get paid for it. Good work if you can find it.
 
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It's a real shame that he's no longer at Apple. From that interview you could tell he's very smart and has that fire when he talked about the iPhone.

Wish Apple would hire him back.

Forstall really likes striped shirts. He wore one for the intro of iOS 6 very similar to the one he has in the picture.

I read somewhere that very busy/smart people wear the same thing everyday to reduce the number of decisions they need to make in a day.
 
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It's a real shame that he's no longer at Apple. From that interview you could tell he's very smart and has that fire when he talked about the iPhone.

Wish Apple would hire him back.



I read somewhere that very busy/smart people wear the same thing everyday to reduce the number of decisions they need to make in a day.

That's been my problem all along? I make the mind numbingly tough decision of which shirt tp wear to start my day?
 
I don't miss this guy. Compare iOS 10/11 to iOS 6. I can't switch back.
This argument is actually pointless when you consider the birth of iOS. Without Scott, iOS would not be iOS. He's the one who fought for the original iPhone OS to be more of a subset of macOS, versus the crappy Acorn OS that the iPods were running (Tony Fadell was fighting for Acorn OS). Scott won, and we are now privileged to have the most innovative mobile OS on the planet. The UI has evolved over time, sometimes for better and sometimes not, but I'd hazard to say such an evolution would not have been easy (if even feasible) if we'd ended up with Acorn OS as the foundation.
 
This argument is actually pointless when you consider the birth of iOS. Without Scott, iOS would not be iOS. He's the one who fought for the original iPhone OS to be more of a subset of macOS, versus the crappy Acorn OS that the iPods were running (Tony Fadell was fighting for Acorn OS). Scott won, and we are now privileged to have the most innovative mobile OS on the planet. The UI has evolved over time, sometimes for better and sometimes not, but I'd hazard to say such an evolution would not have been easy (if even feasible) if we'd ended up with Acorn OS as the foundation.
You actually believe that?
 
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Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. Still rocking the same weird shirt as in the good old days at Apple.

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LOL. Awesome. Although I doubt he has as many of those shirts as Steve had of his Issey Miyake black mock turtlenecks ;)
 
That's been my problem all along? I make the mind numbingly tough decision of which shirt tp wear to start my day?

Yep, you need to reduce decisions. Wear the same clothes and eat the same things everyday.
 
And Apple Maps is still a hot mess

Is the app the issue, or the data being used in the app?

I remember the app itself was a huge step up from the old Maps app which used Google's data. Directions, 3D, vector graphics, etc. I never had any issues with the data (apart from it being limited compared to Google's), but I understand that other's were having issues with the accuracy of the data (which is not Forstall's work IMHO).
 
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Because the "data" in maps was not his work? And it was never part of Apple's DNA to pander to the vocal minority, least of all by apologizing. I respect Forstall for standing up for himself and his principles.

But all of this is just a smokescreen. It was almost common knowledge that Forstall and Cook were the two finalists for the role of CEO before Steve passed away. Getting rid of Forstall was just Cook's way of cementing his position and transforming Jobs' Apple2010 to Cook's Apple2017.

I miss Forstall's charisma (he's the only Apple exec I know of, who made a Seinfeld reference of stage .... culture.) . I think he would have made a better CEO or CTO. I miss Apple2010.

One does wonder how different things would be today if Scott had been put in charge.
 
I doubt anyone could explain why you would continue staring at a grid of icons in the app launcher instead of launching an app by tapping on it...
Good point, however the whole UI looks dated while technology has moved forward. Android has been using "widgets and live widgets" for years that you can interact with, without launching the app. As much as I dislike Samsung's Touchwiz UI, they also have employed several good ideas into Touchwiz.

Microsoft has been using "Live Tiles", their version of Android's widgets. My iPad 2 which started out with iOS 5 and now running iOS 9 looks NO different than an iPad running iOS 10, the same will probably apply to iOS 11. So it would be nice if Apple can change things up regarding the UI used in iOS instead of pouring millions into their Planet of the Apps project.
 
One does wonder how different things would be today if Scott had been put in charge.

I have to say that I do not know if it would have better or worse for Apple, and I dont want to come off as though I actually KNOW how things would have turned out.

What I do "feel" from what I've seen of Forstall and Cook (on stage mind you), is that Forstall had geek-appeal, he seemed to actually like the technology and the details, something Cook can't even seem to fake adequately on stage.

That being said, Cook has been great at 'scaling' the company up (ie good.. even great for business)... Cook too played a major part in "saving" Apple in the late 90s and there is no better COO in the industry.
 
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