Well, but... when did the USA become a member of the European Union?
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Well, but... when did the USA become a member of the European Union?
Looks like ISIS has pounded France into a pathetic state of fear. Let's hope this isn't the case in the US.
Uk leaving the eu would be a good start, hopefully leading to the dismantling of the eu
We have not been America's puppet since labour were kicked out, and is was Tony Blair along with Chaney in America who lied about weapons of mass destruction as an excuse to blow up Iraq and Afghanistan, both of them and Bush should be tried for it IMO, after the 911 attacks in America, they also did it without the EUs backing so other NATO members did not support the action.
America has the lead in bombing places, they have been in Syria for sometime as I understand.
Where are all the people who said this argument was not a slippery slope. The massive attention from this brought by the FBI has created this situation.
World terrorism and the modern electronic world of communication has created the situation.
The precedent has already been set. No one cared when the gov of India forced Blackberry to give up encryption keys. Most normal people won't care if Apple is forced to make a backdoor.
World terrorism is extremely rare.
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But they will when they get defrauded due to poor security.
Frankly, from a purely business standpoint, since the govts control your access to your markets (and there's really nobody else shouting privacy in the market) it doesn't make alot of financial sense (from a purely cynical standpoint) to not just cooperate with all the govts in creating a massive surveillance state of all citizens in the world (virtually every democratic govt has been supporting these policies...as we found out from Mr. Snowden..and all the awful ones were already there).
I wonder if this (resistance to an absolute surveilance state - with no privacy and the eventual destruction of democratic environments) is a tilting at windmills thing destined to failure. Looking at this, how many countries would it take to deny market access before Apple capitulates (or Tim gets thrown out as CEO and then Apple capitulates)?
I wonder if this (resistance to an absolute surveilance state - with no privacy and the eventual destruction of democratic environments) is a tilting at windmills thing destined to failure. Looking at this, how many countries would it take to deny market access before Apple capitulates (or Tim gets thrown out as CEO and then Apple capitulates)?
Apple is ****ed if they capitulate as their extremely personal devices won't be secure from terrorists and criminals.
The axiomatic approach to security means you can't just give access to the good guys.
Reintroduction of national borders - something the USA should look at.
I'm not really clear on how that helps particularly as to a large extent that has already been done.
Yes you are right, it was Blair not Cameron, I stand corrected. And yes, America has the lead, but in most (if not all) cases, military operations include the participation of most of the EU countries (among the ones that are NATO members, of course), with one way or another (e.g. send airplanes, or provide airports etc). We (europeans) are guilty. Maybe not as much as US, but we are.
The problem has been with the free movement within the EU - once passed the outer borders. Some of the EU is now waking up to the results of such a policy, but, if there is a weak point/opening somewhere within, the invasion continues unabated. There is no excuse for the UK having a problem - they created it!
Indeed.
The road to hell is paved wth good intentions. The whole world needs a giant revolution that overthrows all totalitarian governments, which these days includes the US, the UK and France.
I totally agree regarding the security & the requirement for needing privacy to have functioning democracies. I'm just wondering if the forces and power wanting the destruction of privacy are too powerful and all encompassing to be resisted.
As was shown by Snowden and other recent examples, if the Governments (U.S. specifically) get to monitor their populations (and others) - they have actively chosen not to care if there are backdoors others can use (even against the U.S. government as in the Juniper case) as long as they get to have those back doors for their own uses:
http://arstechnica.com/security/201...oped-code-following-new-backdoor-revelations/
This fractures the normal organization of world population from country level into groups that are monitored and the govts / business partnerships doing the monitoring. The tyranny of the govts will still be spread along a spectrum, but you can't have freedom and privacy (except in name only) when everything its citizens do is monitored and accessible by their governments. Apple is really the only large company saying no to this future as a hardware vendor. How long can that last?
To answer your point, this is why Apple wouldn't be ****ed if Cook was replaced (say by shareholders after Apple lost large market access and profits dived) and Apple went along with what the world Govts want, there's no other computer / smartphone makers offering true "privacy" for consumers to go to - just their customers (the people of the world) would be ****ed - all the other hardware vendors pitched their tents with the folks that control the access to their markets long ago (as would be expected by profit driven companies).
So, execs can be placed in jail for not helping. What are they going to do? Request to extradite Tim Cook for prison time?
The fact that governments keep making statements like this is sickening, because your average everyday person will believe them. The simple fact of the matter is that if you can circumvent encryption then there is no point to encryption at all.
Apple should honestly just open up the OS so that the government has a back door. Then secretly push it out to all the hackers as well. Wait 1 week and see how many politicians and government officials start getting their phones hacked, leaked data on the webs, and marriages nulled because of their idiotic reasoning to force Apple to do this.
When will the world understand that the less control the people have, the less they have to defend themselves, the worse it gets? We are letting the enemy win.
When will the world understand that the less control the people have, the less they have to defend themselves, the worse it gets? We are letting the enemy win.
This sounds like the same type of mushy wording the FBI is using in its request. We don't want you to break the encryption, just remove all the other security pieces (increasing wait times between unsuccessful tries, removal of limit to number of tries, etc) with a special version of iOS/firmware and then we'll brute force it. I hope Apple is working to make it even more secure and so they can really do nothing to help. Then their potential to assist/cooperate is very limited (perhaps still iCloud backups if those can't be secured further without making the user experience horrendous for the common person). That would certainly get me to upgrade to a newer iPhone.
