Nope it is not a natural process for my phone to reboot or shut down at 50% after One year 6 months. I went in for a test and they told me the battery needed to be changed. Sorry out of warranty you must pay. Mind you I have a laptop with a battery that never been changed it is 7 years old. So no battery is not supposed to be changed after 1 year and 6 months. I expect this or any rechargeable battery to last 10 to 20 years otherwise it is defective. I have rechargeable battery that I use for a flash in photography. Double AA. I got them in 2005. Constant use and they still hold charge for 400 pictures average per job. They still go to 100% not quit at 50%. 2005 is 13 years old.
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French Consumer Fraud Group Investigating Apple for 'Alleged Deception' and 'Planned Obsolescence'
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Nope it is not a natural process for my phone to reboot or shut down at 50% after One year 6 months. I went in for a test and they told me the battery needed to be changed. Sorry out of warranty you must pay. Mind you I have a laptop with a battery that never been changed it is 7 years old. So no battery is not supposed to be changed after 1 year and 6 months. I expect this or any rechargeable battery to last 10 to 20 years otherwise it is defective. I have rechargeable battery that I use for a flash in photography. Double AA. I got them in 2005. Constant use and they still hold charge for 400 pictures average per job. They still go to 100% not quit at 50%. 2005 is 13 years old.
Of cause it has. Apple makes it practically impossible not to update to their latest iOS. As long they force features nobody has asked for on their user this is at least planned obsolescence. I would rather call it sabotage.
I would greatly appreciate a plain simple iOS with no Siri and emoticon madness, which performs well on any hardware. If someone needs a feature it should be possible to install it on demand.
Apple is using batteries with 1000 charge cycles capacity in their MacBook Pro's and Apple Watches.
Apple is using batteries with 500 charge cycles capacity in their iPhones.
Why? I'm pretty sure that phones are charged more frequently than laptops and watches!
Get even take in your iPhone every other week claiming that it still reboots. And have Them change the battery each time. See how they like if some one lies to them. Finally they will say by the way its not the battery since changing it didn't fix it. Buy a new phone they will say at which point you say Samsung? Right?
this is a terrible analogy
a better analogy would be that toyota cuts your engine power in half when your breakpad is almost dead because toyota doesn't want you to get into a car accident.
In event of cold weather or an aging battery, would you prefer we possibly:
( ) Reduce max speed and/or disable camera flash
( ) Randomly crash, corrupting data
( ) Notify me that the battery health has degraded to a level that causes performance reductions, and recommend replacing the battery at a nearby Apple Store or certified Apple repair center.
Maybe not the same, but a French group filed a lawsuit against inkjet printer manufacturers. Not sure how it went.
https://wirthconsulting.org/2017/09...cence-lawsuit-against-brother-canon-epson-hp/
https://wirthconsulting.org/2017/09...cence-lawsuit-against-brother-canon-epson-hp/
i honestly think apple is guilty of thinking people will find out that their battery degrades faster than anticipated and so hid this fact so people woudn't complain about apple gauging for battery repairs.
Then Apple should have used 1000 Charge Cycles batteries in their iPhones, just as they do on the Apple Watch and the MacBook products. Why fit a 500 Charge Cycles battery in the most frequently charged product? Just this fact alone seems like it's planned obsolesence of the iPhone, while the Watch and MacBook products are estimated to last longer, since they have much higher quality batteries installed.
i don't know about the watch, but I think it's accepted fact that people upgrade their phones more often than their laptops and thus have different requirements. again, i always argue these two points with people on this forum:
1. nobody really knows how it works, the throttling
2. How long do most consumers expect their phones to work?
People were on a 2 year upgrade cycle well before iphone 6s came out and throttlegate became a thing so personally I think apple is guilty of designing a product that didn't last as long as people's expectations, but I don't really buy the planned obsolescence argument.
Are you for real? Or just concept of being open to customers is too much for you? Its not about battery needing replacemnet after 500 or so cycles. Its about letting us know and not ***** with our devices. Im genrally unhappy with the tactics they have chosen. I hope it will cost them bilions.
Also gluing batteries in laptops and soldering RAM should be punish. You dont have to do that. I was changing battery in MBP2013 and thats just a joke. They coud have lighter and thinner devices if they cut on glue....
I said it before. This is a big problem for Apple. Not going away anytime soon.
Apple used a battery that couldn’t power it own chip properly. Plain and simple. Social media made it known world wide. Balls in apples court, show us those morals you preach or do morals only count when it doesn’t affect bottoms lines
Apple used a battery that couldn’t power it own chip properly. Plain and simple. Social media made it known world wide. Balls in apples court, show us those morals you preach or do morals only count when it doesn’t affect bottoms lines
you could.... not buy their devices? although, it seems like every other manufacturer is following suit.
Maybe just burocrazy or people he understand little about batteries. I think you can accuse Apple for nothing in this case. Actually I think they did a great job in keeping the phones running instead of re-bootung.
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A simple yet better way to do it are user exchangeable batteries. Apple can ask Nokia how to do it.
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A simple yet better way to do it are user exchangeable batteries. Apple can ask Nokia how to do it.
Yes Apple shop should have done more to spell out what they were doing but I ask you, would you rather your 2 year old iPhone shut down unexpectedly in the middle of an important or life saving call, or run a bit slower and last longer between charges? I know which one I prefer.
That said I never really noticed my iPhone 5s running any slower before upgrading to the 8 a few months ago. Mum is now happily using it with no battery or speed issues to speak of for a 4yo iPhone.
Fact is batteries don't last forever, I'm amazed you can get such a small battery to run all day (or longer) and still function after 4 years of daily use. Many other divides like home power tools don't last half that time with their bulky battery, by comparison.
That said I never really noticed my iPhone 5s running any slower before upgrading to the 8 a few months ago. Mum is now happily using it with no battery or speed issues to speak of for a 4yo iPhone.
Fact is batteries don't last forever, I'm amazed you can get such a small battery to run all day (or longer) and still function after 4 years of daily use. Many other divides like home power tools don't last half that time with their bulky battery, by comparison.
Samsung just makes bad phones that don't last long enough for the battery to fail.
Hahah. I cant belive how blind people are. Thats just sad. But just show the state of society in general
Get away with what exactly?
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What about all Android devices which do CPU throttling on system level. What about laptops which work slower when on battery power and even when plugged in also work slower to prevent overheating.
I haven't received any Apple Pay popups. They apologises for been not as transparent showing battery health so in the new update we will get battery health status. For me personally, it's not important because I was getting health check anyway, I just needed to contact their support.
Option of what? When battery is old it's sometimes can't produce enough power current and iPhone shuts down. Do you want an option which will disable your iPhone on 40% battery life at random time? It's much worse than slow but working device. Give us an option is not a solution, it's passing problem to the consumer.
There is a growing problem with critical thinking and conscientiousness in modern society.
Apple started the entire trend with non-user replaceable batteries, both in phones, tablets and computers.
It is one of the worst trends Apple has ever created. No other device had a non-user replaceable battery until the original iPhone was launched.
It is one of the worst trends Apple has ever created. No other device had a non-user replaceable battery until the original iPhone was launched.
What do emoticons have to do with anything? This is a complete trivialisation of the situation.
Also, you should change “nobody asked for” into “I didn’t ask for”, because you can’t possibly know what features the majority of users ask for. And it’s easy to pick on Siri, but there are many demanding advancements that are not only practical, they quickly become expected as soon as they are introduced with newer devices. Things like handoff, continuity, drag & drop, etc. I can already see Apple introducing one of thise features “no one asked for” to newer iPhones only and a bunch of people claiming Apple limited them only to latest devices to make you upgrade. In fact, that’s exactly what happens every year.
Also, there are many reasons, most of them technical, some of them practical and some business related why Apple would never fork iOS into fully featured and minimal variants.
There is some truth in that, perhaps, Apple should not offer the latest iOS to devices older than 3 years (though, I’m sure a lot of people here would call it forced obsolescence) and there may be some truth in that they should try to optimize more for older devices. I’m all for that. But that doesn’t change the fact that they are not deliberately slowing down older devices. This would be a bad business decision and most of the engineers there would quit if asked to do such a thing. That doesn’t mean they are investing enough resources to make new software run the best it can on older devices, but that is a different story altogether.
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The issues you mentioned about Android and laptops are well known. It's not a secret. This apple throttling was being kept a secret.
They know how to do it, it’s not hard: just make removable back plates that would make the phone thicker, flimsier and less waterproof. It’s not a choice they want to make, because most users probably prefer these things to replacing the batteries themselves.
They are not forcing you to buy the product. If you like the price and product buy it, if you don't like it don't buy it. It's called choice. Next time vote with your wallet but no one or no company owes you anything because you think the price is too much for a phone.
You are an Apple employee or engineer and know that for a fact do you? What solid proof do you have? I had an iPhone 6 that was great until I bought my X. This is technology dude, stuff happens sometimes that is out of control of the manufacturer.
Uh, it's specified in the documentation of each device. It's even been used in Apple's own marketing of the devices! No need to be an Apple employee, although I am an engineer, but not working for Apple.