Are you suggesting they not improve the CPU/GPU?
It’s based on it, but iOS is not as mature of an OS as OS X or Windows on any level. What makes you think it is? How is it? Look at the API, the sheer amount of changes in iOS compared to desktop OS.
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French Consumer Fraud Group Investigating Apple for 'Alleged Deception' and 'Planned Obsolescence'
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Are you suggesting they not improve the CPU/GPU?
It’s based on it, but iOS is not as mature of an OS as OS X or Windows on any level. What makes you think it is? How is it? Look at the API, the sheer amount of changes in iOS compared to desktop OS.
There is literally no reason why such "thinner, lighter, sexier devices that are waterproof" can't have removable batteries, sorry. It's not that complicated an engineering problem.
I'd split the difference. They gain customers by making quality products, but can also keep profits up by influencing existing customers to upgrade.
I really have not been as awed by the design as you are since the iPhone 6. The X looks nice, but not worth the price to me. Apple continues to dominate the phone market partially on brand loyalty, partially on iOS integration, and partially on design. For me the ecosystem has plusses and minuses. I wouldn't exactly call it fun. Apple has been struggling in the design department for a while now. I am sure it will eventually affect sales. We shall see. Eventually customers are going to want more than a performance bump to the same old same old, and higher prices.
If you want a thin, light, sexy, device with a removable battery? That battery is going to be smaller than the same sized phone without a removable battery. There’s no way around that.
To each his or her own, but the X rocks my socks. I stand by my original post and will add that the ecosystem really shines to me. I love continuity, iOS 11 has really improved my iPad Pro experience, I can get a watch, a desktop and laptop computer and even Apple TV. Apple extends all over and I only have one neck to wring when something goes wrong. Is Apple perfect? Nowhere close, but they do more in my opinion than every other manufacturer.
Because adding removable battery functionality in design totally must result in a phone like a Nokia from the year 2000. Because.
The mere concept is totally beyond the most advanced modern engineering and science.
[doublepost=1515479522][/doublepost]At the very, very least, they could make it a whole lot easier to replace than it is currently, and not have you lose your warranty should you decide to do the work yourself, y'know, on the very thing you spent $999 on.
My 6+ started seriously lagging immediately after the last major iOS update was installed. I noticed it right away, and while I was surprised, I suspected deliberate throttling. That means my battery was doing fine, and that this *is* planned obsolescence.
I’m going to fork out the €29 for a new battery today just to keep it running smoothly, but I’ve lost faith in Apple - after growing up using their products my entire life in the Bay Area - since I was 10 years old in 1984.
What nobody seems to get is that Apple was taken over by nefarious entities while Steve Jobs was dying and losing control. Tim Cook lost power over the company pretty much immediately - if he ever had any to begin with. That’s likely why he’s so obsessed with politics and social justice - as compensation for his powerlessness.
People complain endlessly about the demise of “Pro” Apple hardware and software - what they fail to consider is that that failure may be a deliberate dumbing-down of productive tools to disable the masses’ ability to innovate and produce. Smart phones don’t need to be stupid - that’s just what they have become by design. They want to create a Snapchat generation. Steve Jobs lived and died to empower people. That’s why he was worshipped as a sort of tech-savior. He went up against the powers-that-be and won and empowered humanity. THEY couldn’t have that!
If you think Apple is still a just company - like it obviously was under Jobs — you’ve got another thing coming. I suspect their main purpose for taking over Apple - aside from milking it for cash - is to exploit it to bring about the new 1984 Surveillance State. That’s what the push for wearables (Apple Watch) is really for - wearable surveillance and biometric tracking. And now the Home Pod listening to you all day and night. Steve REALLY wouldn’t have allowed this.
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These motoring analogies can be stretched too far.
What I was describing were actual events and a similar lack of information. It would have been really helpful for me if my Toyota had popped up a warning saying that my battery was on its way out, prior to starter failure. But it didn’t. So Apple aren’t the only company who could do better.
If you take your Toyota, with its twitchy battery, to an Apple store, they would probably recommend that... you buy a new iPhone.
I don't think you understand what planned obsolescence means. Just because people are using older products doesn't mean there isn't planned obsolescence. Products will continue to work even after they've been made obsolete. Planned obsolescence doesn't mean all older devices will magically stop working. Those older devices have no possible way of getting the latest OS ... or anything even remotely close to the latest OS ... and are incapable of getting newer apps or app updates to ones they currently use because developers are no longer supporting their older version of iOS ... this applies to Macs as well. And although some of the older devices (iPhone 5S and above) are capable of getting a newer OS, it has been shown repeatedly that it tends to slow them down ... sometimes significantly. Apple tends to fancy up the graphics effects with each new OS with no option of turning them down enough to not make older phones not lag like mad. We're also starting to reach a point that the power of phones is starting to exceed the power capabilities of current battery tech ... and in the case of Apple ... instead of making it known about the battery having adverse effects on the phone ... they masked it with software throttling. So even with phones as new as the 6S ... people are seeing their phones slow down in various tasks that used to be just fine ... and they would have had no way of knowing why this was happening if Apple wasn't called out on it. There is no way to get around this or defend this. Apple, at the very least, should have a pop up notification warning about battery degradation, just like when they incessantly nagged about 32-bit apps that were no longer going to work. They instead hid this fact and are now receiving a category 5 crapstorm in their general direction. Apple's obsession with thinness is now starting to effect the performance of their devices ... either with the smaller batteries in their phones ... or heat throttling issues in their laptops that causes the hardware inside not to perform optimally. This happens in iMacs as well. This obsession is starting to bite them in the ass ... and they're going to need to start making some changes that involve getting the most out of their hardware instead of shaving off another millimeter or two ... or people are going to continue to keep getting more pissed off.
Apple is making the processors go faster as batteries get older?
Go ahead and explain how this is the opposite of planned obsolescence.
What Apple did was, avoid warranty battery replacements , by reducing performance, artificial reductions of performance without the user knowing is the definition of "planned obsolescence " especially when it's based on a battery that will loose power.
Apple is either guilty of planned obsolescence or guilty of avoiding battery replacements under EU laws, and as a EU citizen you applaud this ? Okay.....
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As a consumer, do you want a fault corrected or a software patch that cripples it to hide the problem ?
The right thing here was to acknowledge the 6 and 6S has a design problem, and offer free batteries under warranty, the wrong this was to create a battery test to hide the issue, and refuse to change batteries
You can't teach someone something that only Apple knows about. Nobody knew about this until it was discovered.
Okay - if it's not planned obsolescence, could the apologists please explain why Apple was refusing to allow people to pay $79 to change their batteries when they passes the battery diagnostics test? Even though throttling was occurring?
You do realise such an action is by definition planned obsolescence.
Had it not been for this, one could understand how Apple did the patch for the customers experience, though when Apple lied to you that the battery is fine while the phone is throttled, that is planned obsolescence, as a battery replacement would restore performance.
Though welcome to Tim Cooks Apple, the reason people were being refused the option to pay, is cause Tim would also have to allow warranty battery replacements under AppleCare and consumers laws. This patch is pure disgusting greed, where apple would not fix a design issue . At least Samsung took took the action to admit their issues and pulled the device. My 6S is a piece of crap once it gets cold , they messed up the design, stupid make it as thin as possible backfired, though they turned it into a great scenario of getting people to upgrade while avoiding thier obligations under warranty - if they get taken to the cleaners for this, all consumers will benefit, disgusting practice - and where is Cook in all this? That is pathetic that he has not even said a word, all the SJW BS and when it counts he goes missing .
You do realise such an action is by definition planned obsolescence.
Had it not been for this, one could understand how Apple did the patch for the customers experience, though when Apple lied to you that the battery is fine while the phone is throttled, that is planned obsolescence, as a battery replacement would restore performance.
Though welcome to Tim Cooks Apple, the reason people were being refused the option to pay, is cause Tim would also have to allow warranty battery replacements under AppleCare and consumers laws. This patch is pure disgusting greed, where apple would not fix a design issue . At least Samsung took took the action to admit their issues and pulled the device. My 6S is a piece of crap once it gets cold , they messed up the design, stupid make it as thin as possible backfired, though they turned it into a great scenario of getting people to upgrade while avoiding thier obligations under warranty - if they get taken to the cleaners for this, all consumers will benefit, disgusting practice - and where is Cook in all this? That is pathetic that he has not even said a word, all the SJW BS and when it counts he goes missing .
Oh dear Mac Rumors, still going with the ‘occasional slow downs’ and ‘to prevent early shutdown’ lines eh? Well my phone says it’s slowed down permanently still and they had a battery replacement programme for phones shutting down early, so if your phone is doing that it’s faulty not a feature!!
Oooohh I cannot wait for these regulator etc to do their investigations.
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Why? Is there another mobile phone manufacture who has admitted to lying and being deceitful to it’s customers for just over a year then?
Was it unfair to pick in Samsung when it’s Note 7 batteries were blowing up?
Talk about trying to deflect blame...
Oooohh I cannot wait for these regulator etc to do their investigations.
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Why? Is there another mobile phone manufacture who has admitted to lying and being deceitful to it’s customers for just over a year then?
Was it unfair to pick in Samsung when it’s Note 7 batteries were blowing up?
Talk about trying to deflect blame...
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There really is one simple question to answer.
What is Apple going to do for those who experienced their phones showing down, asked Apple "store experts" is it was anything Apple did, and they were told no. Apple has done nothing to slow your device. (which was the company line til la few weeks ago)
And then said, ok, then I guess it's time I bought a new iPhone then, and they did.
Will Apple refund their purchase, as it's now been officially admitted they did not need to buy a new phone as it was Apple's code that caused this slow down due to it monitoring the battery?
How will Apple deal with all these people, as I've heard nothing......
What is Apple going to do for those who experienced their phones showing down, asked Apple "store experts" is it was anything Apple did, and they were told no. Apple has done nothing to slow your device. (which was the company line til la few weeks ago)
And then said, ok, then I guess it's time I bought a new iPhone then, and they did.
Will Apple refund their purchase, as it's now been officially admitted they did not need to buy a new phone as it was Apple's code that caused this slow down due to it monitoring the battery?
How will Apple deal with all these people, as I've heard nothing......
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Then buy one from the many companies that make them... because its so easy. Or start a company to benefit humanity by manufacturing the things yourself. Not complicated indeed...
They might have a case for the battery, since the phone is slowed down.
As for the upgrade of iOS making old devices slow I don't think they have a case, since is not mandatory to upgrade (unless you do a restore, but you're not forced to do that unless you have some problem).
Let's see what happens, if this class action helps getting better batteries or more transparency from Apple it is a good news for all customers around the world
As for the upgrade of iOS making old devices slow I don't think they have a case, since is not mandatory to upgrade (unless you do a restore, but you're not forced to do that unless you have some problem).
Let's see what happens, if this class action helps getting better batteries or more transparency from Apple it is a good news for all customers around the world
Yeah? Well, demonstrate it to any phone maker in the world and expect a them to throw money at you.
But seriously, you thinking it’s not complicated is a good example of what is called the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Unacceptably so. There's a trade off between disallowing consumers from experiencing such suckage, and offering it to them at their own risk, without sufficient warning. Then it's too late, and they need a new phone to get remotely normal performance. So yeah...