More like, get Crippled/Throttled/Slowed down, or Upgrade your phone. Your choice.
Excellent analogy. Apple's 'updates' are indeed resulting in getting Crippled/Throttled/Slowed down.
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French Consumer Fraud Group Investigating Apple for 'Alleged Deception' and 'Planned Obsolescence'
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Excellent analogy. Apple's 'updates' are indeed resulting in getting Crippled/Throttled/Slowed down.
What is wrong with some people here...
Our phones were not 'springboarding', it was working perfectly fine for two years until Apple decided to throttle it.
And I don't even understand your Walmart example. If Walmart sold bulbs with certain lumens but dimmed it down after six months without informing us to make it last longer, then yes, this would be cause for a lawsuit.
Funny how your 5s runs good but a 6s doesn’t. Bad battery’s in 6s’s?
I bought the iPhone X even though it had no headphone jack. And again that wasn't my point.
Yes I am free to do so, and I buy Apple devices and computers. People should also have the right to know all the information concerning a product they own to make an informed decision. And when a company does something that the customer doesn't know about that MAY cause sales to increase, it looks shady and deceptive, PERIOD. And I love Apple products, design, quality etc and have for more than 20 years but why is this "free will" the defense people always go to? That's like the defense of taking away privacy rights is OK by saying "well if you have nothing to hide..." But I digress....and you are missing my point and defending sales and markets etc etc. I never mentioned they would never sell, nor did I mention the market would not except a phone without a 3.5 jack. I simply made an analogy between being "courageous" with the jack and not letting people know what was about to happen with an update that now is, rightfully, being characterized as intentional deception. THAT would have been courageous! If they thought what is happening now would not happen when it was found, and it would inevitably be found, then they sorely miscalculated it.
If you have learned anything from the last 20 years of news, tech, politics and consumers, you would know that perception is HUGE when something is hidden. I have no facts, but how about I ask YOU a question that you cannot answer? Why didn't they just tell everyone who had these devices, what exactly would happen with the update...and there is no excuse like, it would be too technical for the masses. They could have dumb'd it down to a sentence. They chose to not do that and are now feeling the repercussions from that choice. THOSE are FACTS.
Gee I wonder why? Upgraded my RAM, removed the optical drive and added an additional 2tb drive, replaced the default drive to an SSD and my battery can be EASILY swapped in when the time comes.
DUH.
Let me see.. I don't see the companies throttling my display or dimming the display for planned obslescence. I don't see the refrigerator companies throttling the cooling elements, washing machine companies slowing down the motor to reduce the washing quality. Why Apple gets to do this?
Apple IS going to lose billions, and billions, and billions when they begin losing each and every single one of these lawsuits. Free iPhones or refunded money for most of Europe - their laws favor the consumer, it’s nothing like America. Though they will lose the US lawsuits as well.
Tim Cook is out as CEO before 2019. Quote me for posterity!
One can only dream. Cook is trying to pull up a crashing plane he pushed himself into nosedive.
The best thing that could ever happen to Apple is to lose these to keep them honest.
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I love how you tried to shill for Apple and then red pilled yourself all in the same sentence. lol.
So because they offer a decent deal now to appeal to those who feel ''tricked'' they've pleaded guilty? Please...
Some of the comparisons and analogies here are pretty funny. You literally are comparing Apples and Oranges....
This makes me think that Apple has no future plans. They just want to ride the iPhone train as long as they can. Hope this issue will bring this journey to a halt or slow it down and make Apple think how to make new products.
They already do that and I'm sure it won't be very hard to prove in court. Then what? Answer: split hairs legally about how much specific information Apple is required to provide for a software update that solved an issue that customers had complained about.
You're confusing planned obsolescence with invention. The fault with planned obsolescence is that it's directed at a company's own products and customers--not the competition. It's good to advance and leapfrog a competitor's designs, but it's risky to force your customers' purchase cycles.
Historically, Apple's products were typically next-gen improvements. The company wasn't shy about abandoning established tech like optical disc drives for example. However, they did so without disrupting their customers' existing purchases. That is the opposite of planned obsolescence.
Even if Apple enabled its customers to get twice the mileage out of its phones--breaking the typical two year upgrade cycle--it would still be a viable company. It might disappoint shareholders, but they can take a backseat to those who actually made Apple successful--the customers.
Apple IS going to lose billions, and billions, and billions when they begin losing each and every single one of these lawsuits. Free iPhones or refunded money for most of Europe - their laws favor the consumer, it’s nothing like America. Though they will lose the US lawsuits as well.
Tim Cook is out as CEO before 2019. Quote me for posterity!
Nope, not going to happen.
This a false argument. Customers could already extend the life of their phone by replacing the battery when it was EOL. The original $79 cost was definitely not a barrier vs. buying a new phone. IMO, that is exactly the reason Apple is willing to do the $29 price. They already know that the battery life itself is not a significant driver of sales. It's not like they don't have stats on things like that.
My battery in my 6s was replaced. 6s is running well.(it was running well/normally prior to the battery replacement)
Actually if Apple really wanted they could invent a cool battery change method that does not have the issues you do list above.
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What is your point? Batteries do not degrade ?
I don't recall saying they pleaded guilty but by definition of an apology, one has to admit to error. Apple made a public apology.
https://www.apple.com/iphone-battery-and-performance/
I know they already cripple phones with updates I’m sure the court will see that. How is letting users know that their battery is failing splitting hairs?
Apple has said that they do not throttle any other iOS device except the iPhone. Therefore there is something unique about these later iPhone designs. Underspec'd battery, maybe?
People were already complaining in early 2016 about shutdowns on late 2015 iPhone 6S models. (Not the ones that had been recalled for bad batteries.) So those batteries were barely "aged" at the time. And the complaints did not mention low charge or cold.
In any case, the big question is why Apple was apparently blindsided by all this, and had to later create a throttling workaround.
Competent designers would have already planned ahead.
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The "unique" part is how large a percentage of active users the 6/6s represented. Those were the models that were a logical priority for the feature to prevent shutdowns. The update came out in January of 2017, and in April of 2017 the 6/6s represented more than 50% of the worldwide user base. By comparison, the 5s was only 12%.
Why did Apple already have the low power warning at 20% charge and an EOL rating for the battery at 80% capacity if they were "blindsided" by the limitations of lithium ion batteries? 20% charge is the standard point that the battery begins to rapidly drop below nominal voltage and 80% capacity is an industry standard for when the battery will become less stable for providing voltage during discharge.
What insane conspiracies? Various measurements from various sources confirmed the throttling. Apple ADMITTED and APOLOGIZED for the throttling after that. They suddenly offered cheap battery replacements and some software improvements (more battery info) to make up for it. People bought new phones because of this (while a battery replacement would have been enough).
That is not a conspiracy that is fact. Don't need a tin foil hat for that. Whether this whole thing went to far has to be decided in court.
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Apple added it as a feature to extend battery life starting with iOS 9.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201264
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205234
....The charges from all of these groups is that the battery FIX (which is what happened here) was part of a larger planned obsolescence strategy. Every one of these suits is going to have to prove that claim, the lawsuits aren't over the fix. Read a bit.