While I agree Apple isn’t truly guilty of planned obsolescence via new iOS versions, the user should have more choice in whether to update their phones. Unfortunately, security updates are introduced along with new software versions, so exploits discovered now will only be patched for those running iOS 11. However, those wishing to stay on older software to avoid device slow down will not be able to maintain security without updating the OS. This is problematic.
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French Consumer Fraud Group Investigating Apple for 'Alleged Deception' and 'Planned Obsolescence'
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While I agree Apple isn’t truly guilty of planned obsolescence via new iOS versions, the user should have more choice in whether to update their phones. Unfortunately, security updates are introduced along with new software versions, so exploits discovered now will only be patched for those running iOS 11. However, those wishing to stay on older software to avoid device slow down will not be able to maintain security without updating the OS. This is problematic.
How can we rationalize why they kept it a secret, if it wasn’t planned obsolescence?
Except that they have added that message into iOS since an iOS 10.2 update.
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Apple not wanting to look bad? Why do most companies or people would usually try to essentially avoid talking bout, let alone publicizing something that can put them in a questionable or even negative light?
While they're at it, they might as well throw Philipps under the bus too. Sonicare tooth brushes use a non replaceable NICAD battery. When it wears out in a year- time to buy a new $100 toothbrush. If that's not planned obsolescence, what is? But wait! Philipps is a Dutch company....so no problem!
Like every other product a company wants to keep selling. If there’s no reason to re-buy or upgrade there’s no longevity. This is the norm, not the exception.
First day living in a capitalist country?
You make a good point, but planned obsolescence necessitates intent to slow down old devices, and I don’t think the fact that they don’t provide security updates other than when packaged with new OS versions shows intent.
I guess to you the whole life is disgusting then ..ha..?
Ahhh...how i am manipulated in my love and hate relationship with french wine and cheese..... all with their planned obsolescence. I feel defrauded! and not only defrauded.....they have made me an addict too ..cant stop eating and drinking them . Bastards ..
Hope they will investigate these deviant wine and cheese producers as well !
And ....To quote a friend from another forum:
"Ok, so is France going after Mother Nature and/or God as well. I get older everyday, and things sure don’t work quite as well as they did in previous years. That sound like planned obsolescence to me, I have been deceived!"
Maybe u should get a better grip on a universal fundamental. Entropy
Oh, you mean a message buried in Settings > Battery?
I visit my setting fairly often but I don't read the grey text in general. Besides, my 6s+ which runs like crap and has piss poor battery life still doesn't show that message.
So first they didn't include the message, and now it's that you wouldn't read it and the message wouldn't show up anyway.
Don't twist my words.
This is what I said "Apple didn't want to use a service battery light..."
What good is that light if it's buried inside the setting? Besides, how am I expected to read it (even if I pay attention to) if it's just not there?
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I don't see that message. Why is Apple throttling our devices(three iPhone 6's) by 30% when battery is below 80% charge?
If those updates slow down older devices by forcing a customer to choose between the security of their phone, or no security, I think there is weight to that claim. Microsoft does separate updates for all their OS, so there is no reason why Apple, a much bigger company, can't do it also.
These are the stuff investors should be complaining to Apple about. Not children being addicted. Sigh.
So the issue isn't as much with the "light" but with how it would work it would seem.
Apple, please slow down cfurlin's device. He ain't gonna sue you, no worry.
You first state Geekbench will trigger throttling right away, then go on to say Geekbench runs at full speed on your older iPhone without throttling. I don't see how Geekbench can be blamed for the throttling in the first instance then behave differently on the older phone. Perhaps I misunderstood your meaning?
Considering that people are learning that updating often causes slowdowns, there might not be that much protest.
The complaints have nothing to do with slowdowns caused by the usual iOS update process. Even Apple says so.
They’re about slowdowns caused by Apple throttling, which began after an update intended to help with abrupt shutdowns on phones that were as little as just a few months old.
E.g. reports of such shutdowns on the 6S date back to at least early 2016, just months after that model came out in Fall 2015. The phones and batteries were not even six months old.
Samsung is a corporation like Apple. If they could have hidden it they would have, just like EVERY OTHER corporation would. If you think most are transparent and it's only Apple that is trying to pull the wool over it's consumers eyes then you live in an alternate reality. It's hard to hide an exploding phone that's burning people though so I guess they fess'd up.
So no actual evidence from controlled tests, then?
As an engineer I thought you’d be one looking for this type of hard data, and not personal anecdotes or vague comments.
Apple could have prevented this with a bigger battery since iPhone 6. Thinner is not always better and Apple still does not understand this. This is evident with their design of new MacBook Pro.
yeah SUE!
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They are obsessive with thinness they don't listen to suggestions...
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They are obsessive with thinness they don't listen to suggestions...
Thinner does look better though, but it should be feasible engineering wise.