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French Consumer Fraud Group Investigating Apple for 'Alleged Deception' and 'Planned Obsolescence'
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So is this a conspiracy against US companies? You get the gold medal for Most Paranoid Vision ever. Put an i7 into your brain, it may help.
The life of the phone? Not the battery? So Apple is implying that the phone itself is unsalvagable if the battery expires. This comment illustrates their intention to make the phone a disposable product, rather than simply replace an aging battery to prolong its utility.
Mine lasted 10 years before I replaced mine. My new one is 3 years and counting.
Raising my hand to say that I do NOT want a thinner and sexier device.
Exactly. The PR team that made that response made the big blunder which will be used against them in court.
All iPhones and iPads should be shredded and melted down, and then turned into precision machined parts for future space missions.
Power Management Feature = Planned Obsolescence / Business Decision. My second phone is a Mate 9, just updated it to Oreo and it runs faster! Thats how you build relationships with customers...
And this has been going on for a long time now, Apple clearly slows down older phones and I hope they get NAILED to the wall over this...even I'm a shareholder.
And this has been going on for a long time now, Apple clearly slows down older phones and I hope they get NAILED to the wall over this...even I'm a shareholder.
What are u talking about?
U can have the battery replaced for 29 bucks.... the phone is not disposable! except its not designed for u to replace the battery yourself.. like most cars are not designed to be repaired by the owner now a days.. you take them to a mechanic.
Never the less.. as OS and apps get more complex and powerful... older phones with less horsepower at some point wont be practical to use with new software.
Too much undue frenzy.... and isnt the competition loving this and adding fule to the fire through Trolling.
My galaxy s3 came originally with Android 4.0.4 and was pretty smooth, however it ended with 4.3 and the thing was pretty much useless, can i blame Samsung for slowing it? i'd say no, the thing grow old (last 3 years)
Apple case is that different?, i know Apple is admiting they are slowing old phones on purpose, anyways their case is that different?
Apple case is that different?, i know Apple is admiting they are slowing old phones on purpose, anyways their case is that different?
There’s way more to this than just a normally degrading battery, way way more. I really hope France sticks it to them. I’ll be cheering them on. I wanna see Apple get bit hard on this one because I feel ripped off!
My 6 didn’t get any faster the last time I replaced the battery and I’m sure it won’t when I have it replaced again this week because the battery’s are crap and last maybe a year under less than normal use.
The updates are absolute bloat anchors whenever a new model is released.
I’d bet not only are they slowing it down to lead us to buy new, but probably torrents of personal data are being uploaded to their servers while we wait ten friggen minutes for Facebook to load! Shame on all the Apple shill posters too.
Yes, I dumb down my iPhone from the battery hogging factory defaults that limit my user experience with all the battery coddling recommendations that make an iPhone a shadow of what’s advertised during the launch. I would say I’m not a power user. I use maybe four apps on a very limited basis, I do browse a fair share and check emails very infrequently and that’s about it.
Suck it Apple. I’m pissed
My 6 didn’t get any faster the last time I replaced the battery and I’m sure it won’t when I have it replaced again this week because the battery’s are crap and last maybe a year under less than normal use.
The updates are absolute bloat anchors whenever a new model is released.
I’d bet not only are they slowing it down to lead us to buy new, but probably torrents of personal data are being uploaded to their servers while we wait ten friggen minutes for Facebook to load! Shame on all the Apple shill posters too.
Yes, I dumb down my iPhone from the battery hogging factory defaults that limit my user experience with all the battery coddling recommendations that make an iPhone a shadow of what’s advertised during the launch. I would say I’m not a power user. I use maybe four apps on a very limited basis, I do browse a fair share and check emails very infrequently and that’s about it.
Suck it Apple. I’m pissed
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It's okay, since they're already heading for the next galaxy, so the extra firepower would be appreciated.
This is prob a late reply after many messages. If you didn’t see it, you weren’t using apps that were processor intensive. I can show you plenty of examples where it affected the usage to the point where an iPhone 5s(with me using a 6s) was running the same app with an older battery faster with less lag. Yes yes all rebooted with 100% charge etc before any stupid reasons are given.
It was a hardware mismatch and they didn’t do enough testing. Or they knew it and Ive being the thinness maniac didn’t care. There was a conscious decision made somewhere along the lines and I want it to be exposed.
Also I don’t want iOS updates all the time. However, limiting the apps that work sorta forces me to update iOS doesn’t it? Otherwise the phone becomes useless. What choice do you have if you still want to use the smartphone part of the smartphone?
Agreed. I'm a huge Apple fan but I look at all the lawsuits and investigations as a good thing for all of us consumers. Apple will be humbled and hopefully flies straight going forward.
Yes. But planned obsolescence is mandatory in the tech industry, if any company wants to stay in business. So this may just be a government stupidity issue, e.g. France wants its industries to go bankrupt.
Advanced semiconductor technology products often requires 2 to 4 years from conception to shipping. If, during that time a company doesn't already have products in their R&D labs that render it's current shipping product obsolete, it's competition will. And the slow moving company will be dead meat.
Thus, every company (actually, only those that want to stay in business) knows that when the the best new stuff in their R&D labs is finally ready to manufacture and ship, customers tomorrow who see that new product will look back on what they just purchased today, and find it to be obsolete junk in comparison.
Only those companies that want to fail (employees lose all their jobs, investors lose their retirement savings, etc.) will not plan obsolescence.
Never a more idiotic statement did I read. In "the olden days" companies took GREAT pride in the longevity and repairability of their machines, and rightly so. You could buy spares almost anywhere, fix it yourself and keep it running for MANY YEARS (because, in "the olden days" people had manual skills, and their brains and ACTUALLY FUNCTIONED, and weren't just skull warmers) and your toaster didn't need internet access to get updated, IT MAKES TOAST FOR GOODNESS SAKE. Companies keep spewing out disposable SHYTE because once everyone has bought something truly useless but addictive (iPads, iPhones) the ONLY way they can get them to buy the next "best EVERRRRR" device is to provide some mediocre, slight "upgrade" reasons, whereupon the great crowd of hive-minded morons RUSH to the door of the great company in the sky, THRUSTING cash into their hands... and for what? They have SO much disposable cash, and yet SO little of a life to spend it on, they funnel it all into meaningless dreck like this, merely not to be "left out" or, perish the thought that they'd "miss out" on some moronic tweet or instaschmuck post.
Never did I think I'd see the day when anyone in their sane, balanced mind could justify the purchase of a VERY similar, barely changed at all device EVERY YEAR, and to add insult to injury, these same buffoons make up any number of ridiculous, outlandish "justifications" for why they "need" the latest device - they'll sit there in their bedroom and rehearse their idiotic spiel for MONTHS, bolstering it with idiotic spiel from other, equally delusional schmucks on forums such as this, memorising it by heart, in case any sane NORMAL person questions why they've just been dumb enough to spend TWELVE HUNDRED POUNDS on a PHONE.
Oy a broch!!
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All those darn whippersnappers and their newfangled technology.
How about almost every android manufacturer out there since they stop providing updates within a year or so? Samsung with the slowdowns within a few months of buying the device?
This is just wrong. No one buys a product to replace every two/three years. No one. Apple has been successful this far because they build quality products, unlike some. And seemingly, it was the customers who decided when to upgrade(for whatever reasons)... it wasn't forced.
Because replacing every two/three years provides a negative return wasting money. Most do not have that kind of money to waste. I mean, how would a company fare if they said 'See you in two years' at the bottom of bill of sale?
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I smiled for the first time reading Macrumors, although I'm a relatively newcomer to the forums. Upvote for you, sir.
In France's defense(not a Frenchman, but...) they haven't come to a conclusion yet, although I don't know how many of these investigations end up against the corporations.
The irony is he's wasting the same time as everyone else here.