Full Laptop Refresh By Holidays?

[HecubusPro]

Exactly what i was thinking...

but the question is... can we take this to mean that if MBP's have a new form factor and major updates then immediate release and if just a Merom drop then delayed?

ID LOVE TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP A BLACK ANODIZED MBP MONDAY! ok...Tuesday realistically

I believe when they first announced the 17" MBP, it became available a week later. That was even stated by apple, if I'm not mistaken. So that could be a possibility.

Currently, I simply lack the faith that we'll see new MBP's next week. I hope I'm wrong. It's still going to be exciting to find out though.

 

[ergle2]

Well, they actually recieve new products "next day". So if it is announced Monday, apple stores will receive them Tuesday :-D. If it's announced Tuesday, apple stores will receive them Wedensday.

At least some have been on-sale same day -- the MacBooks were in my local store same-day. I know 'cause I happened to wander by that day.

 

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No Price Change In Either MB Nor MBP Lines • Merom MB By Thanksgiving November 23

my contact at an apple store said supplies are low on MBP. I asked him how often he gets new shipments in and he says practically everyday, but hasn't had any MBP recently. However, the MB's are in good supply and suspects the MB's will stay at CD and the MBP's at C2D. To me, this makes sense, in order to make the price difference more reasonable, and possibly drive the price of MB's down. (Or worse drive MBP price up )

Nope. That's not the reason. The reason is that Apple isn't receiveing enough Meroms yet to offer them in the MB for another month or two. But I'm sure MB will get 2GHz Meroms before Thanksgiving - November 23.

 

[saisaij]

I am also waiting for the merom MBP to arrive, been almost 4 months.
I was just thinking.... with this high expectation on monday. "IFFFF" nothing is announce, I wonder how the post will be like hahaha.

WAAA DAAA F***K apple you !@)*#)_!@&%(!)@*#

 

[MacinDoc]

I am also waiting for the merom MBP to arrive, been almost 4 months.
I was just thinking.... with this high expectation on monday. "IFFFF" nothing is announce, I wonder how the post will be like hahaha.

WAAA DAAA F***K apple you !@)*#)_!@&%(!)@*#

I'm getting out my flame-retardant suit, just in case.
But, make no mistake, Apple will announce something, we just don't know what.

 

[poppe]

Currently, I simply lack the faith that we'll see new MBP's next week. I hope I'm wrong. It's still going to be exciting to find out though.

I'm with you. I think Apple won't be releasing a Merom for a while... I've been wating for soooo long too... The day the 17 inch came out I said I dont need one really tell end of september so I'll wait till then... but I'm starting to give up on Apple... Sometimes I wonder if I should get a highend PC laptop instead. Sure I wouldn't be able to get Fincal Cut or OS X, but stil... I'd have newest out, plus I could get newest Avid anyways...

 

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Say It Ain't So • Hang In There And Wait As Long As You Have To For A 17" C2D MBP

I'm with you. I think Apple won't be releasing a Merom for a while... I've been wating for soooo long too... The day the 17 inch came out I said I dont need one really tell end of september so I'll wait till then... but I'm starting to give up on Apple... Sometimes I wonder if I should get a highend PC laptop instead. Sure I wouldn't be able to get Fincal Cut or OS X, but stil... I'd have newest out, plus I could get newest Avid anyways...

Hang in there. Remember that the Mac you will get can also run Windoze. Why buy a PC that can't run OS X just out of impatience? You can do it. Wait as long as you have to and you will be much happier Poppe.

It's probably going to be next week.

 

[tekmoe]

when these new mbp's come out on monday, my life will be so much easier being able to run windoze on it. i am going to orlando in a couple of weeks for a conference and i would LOVE to be able to take my mac rather than my thinkpad. unfortunately, we only have the cisco vpn client for windoze.

eagerly awaiting new mbps...

 

[nevir]

when these new mbp's come out on monday, my life will be so much easier being able to run windoze on it. i am going to orlando in a couple of weeks for a conference and i would LOVE to be able to take my mac rather than my thinkpad. unfortunately, we only have the cisco vpn client for windoze.

eagerly awaiting new mbps...

afaik the Cisco VPN client works fine on OS X intel (there were some troubles with Rosetta a while back, but I think it's a universal app now), with no configuration differences from the windows version - we're required to use it for the campus wifi where I am. Not sure how much a license costs though

 

[sjsharks27]

Looks like MB and MBP's will be updated

Hey all im new here too..been reading all the posts for the past week been wanting to get a MB..but want it with c2d...It looks like both the MB and MBP will get updated since if u look at apples website..the MB is shipping in 3-5 days which would mean they must be out of the Cd ones and are waiting to release the c2d after announcment..and also they must have excess MBP and are prob tryin to get rid of them to start selling the new ones w/ c2d next week. Looking at those two things it looks like the whole line will be updated hopefully i really want a MB with c2d..can u guys tell me whether its worth going for 1gb ram over 512mb??

 

[MacinDoc]

I'm with you. I think Apple won't be releasing a Merom for a while... I've been wating for soooo long too... The day the 17 inch came out I said I dont need one really tell end of september so I'll wait till then... but I'm starting to give up on Apple... Sometimes I wonder if I should get a highend PC laptop instead. Sure I wouldn't be able to get Fincal Cut or OS X, but stil... I'd have newest out, plus I could get newest Avid anyways...

Well, yes, you'd have the newest out...
...until the next "breakthrough" came out 2 months later...

 

[ergle2]

Hey all im new here too..been reading all the posts for the past week been wanting to get a MB..but want it with c2d...It looks like both the MB and MBP will get updated since if u look at apples website..the MB is shipping in 3-5 days which would mean they must be out of the Cd ones and are waiting to release the c2d after announcment..and also they must have excess MBP and are prob tryin to get rid of them to start selling the new ones w/ c2d next week. Looking at those two things it looks like the whole line will be updated hopefully i really want a MB with c2d..can u guys tell me whether its worth going for 1gb ram over 512mb??

Unless you're into very light use (say, just an email client and a couple of websites open), it's definitely worth it. Even then, it's probably worth it...

Given how much Apple charges and how easy it is to add, you might want to buy third party RAM and add it yourself. It's a lot cheaper.

 

[generik]

Unless you're into very light use (say, just an email client and a couple of websites open), it's definitely worth it. Even then, it's probably worth it...

Given how much Apple charges and how easy it is to add, you might want to buy third party RAM and add it yourself. It's a lot cheaper.

Actually if you are buying now with the high memory prices I will definitely go the Apple upgrade route, here in Australia a stick of 1GB Sodimm costs an average of $190, which is in contrast to Apple's $380 pricing for 512 -> 2GB upgrade makes Apple's pricing very attractive.

Third party may be good, but what if you got a bum stick? There may be lifetime warranties, but depending on the manufacturer RMA procedures can be quite a nuisance too. Get the upgrades from Apple, and get free coverage for them when you buy a Applecare Protection Plan as well.

 

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Link To Inexpensive Reliable Third Party 1GB MB & MBP Sticks Only $118.99 Each

Actually if you are buying now with the high memory prices I will definitely go the Apple upgrade route, here in Australia a stick of 1GB Sodimm costs an average of $190, which is in contrast to Apple's $380 pricing for 512 -> 2GB upgrade makes Apple's pricing very attractive.

Third party may be good, but what if you got a bum stick? There may be lifetime warranties, but depending on the manufacturer RMA procedures can be quite a nuisance too. Get the upgrades from Apple, and get free coverage for them when you buy a Applecare Protection Plan as well.

Pay no attention to him. In USA cheap RAM is as good as what Apple charges an arm and a leg for. Just click on this link for excellent reliable and cheap RAM sticks for only $118.99 each.

Caveat: Apple appears to be changing the way they price RAM according to the new iMac & mini RAM prices. So it remains to be seen if buying 3rd party ram will be cheaper in future.

How much does Apple charge in contrast? Here, in Australia, it is actually cheaper.

Well something is changing there at Apple because the new iMac & mini RAM prices are in line with third party prices when you go up to two 1GB sticks. But looking at the mobile RAM prices on all the old mobiles it's still much higher than 3rd parties.

Apple is asking for + $300 for a second 1GB stick on the MacBook,
+ $100 for the 512 to 1GB config from 2 x 256 stock sticks to 2 x 512 sticks or
+ $500 for two 1GB sticks vs. market price of $238 from Omni at the link above.

MacBook Pro Down-Upgrades Are From ONE 1GB stick:
DOWN to Two 512 Sticks for Minus $100 - same amount of RAM - or
UP to Two 1GB sticks for Plus $300 or $181 above the cost of adding ONE stick from Omni for $119.

On the other hand If you are upgrading RAM in the mini:

The same RAM upgrade as what goes into a MacBook from 2 x 256MB sticks to 2x1GB sticks is only $250 more - close enough - only $12 more - to let Apple do it for us since upgrading ram in the mini is quite the surgical operation.

And upgrading RAM in the NEW iMac:

From 2x512 sticks to 2x1GB sticks is only $175 - $63 BELOW what it would cost you from a 3rd party.

This is the first time I have ever seen Apple price a RAM upgrade that includes credit for the RAM they are removing when they put in the upgrade sticks.

So this is a very new and refreshingly much lower RAM pricing structure we see on these new models. Unfortunately this new policy is not represented on the Mac Pro RAM upgrade pricing scheme. Third Party RAM is still much lower than what Apple is asking the pros to pay.

So the jury is still out on what Apple is doing with RAM when it comes to the Professional side of their business. Two different marketing teams not talking to one another? Phil Schiller where are you when we need you?

 

[generik]

Pay no attention to him. In USA cheap RAM is as good as what Apple charges an arm and a leg for. Just click on this link for excellent reliable and cheap RAM sticks for only $118.99 each.

How much does Apple charge in contrast?

Here it is actually cheaper.

 

[Maccer]

What's funny is that even if new MacBooks and MacBook Pros were released tomorrow with the newer Merom chip, 90% of you folks in here wouldn't notice a difference in your daily computing. You would not say "OMG, this 64 bit processing and extra .16Ghz speed is AWESOME!!! I can't BELIEVE I lived without this for so long!!!" You wouldn't even notice unless someone told you.

For me, the Merom is not the main reason for waiting. Rather I'm hoping for
- A better graphics card as an option. I mostly work/surf/mail with my computer, but I when I play games I want them to play without a hitch at full resolution. The Radeon X1600 is simply not enough.
- The heat problems need to be fixed.
- A dual-layer DVD burner. I admit that I would almost never hace to use it, but when I do need it it's quite convenient.
- Some kind of a price reduction would be nice.

 

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All About The Easy Acces HD Bay For Me

For me, the Merom is not the main reason for waiting. Rather I'm hoping for
- A better graphics card as an option. I mostly work/surf/mail with my computer, but I when I play games I want them to play without a hitch at full resolution. The Radeon X1600 is simply not enough.
- The heat problems need to be fixed.
- A dual-layer DVD burner. I admit that I would almost never hace to use it, but when I do need it it's quite convenient.
- Some kind of a price reduction would be nice.

For me it's all about the HD Bay. No easy access HD Bay No Sale. I'll wait and get a C2D MacBook in that case.

Apologies to all who have read this mantra before.

 

[HecubusPro]

For me it's all about the HD Bay. No easy access HD Bay No Sale. I'll wait and get a C2D MacBook in that case.

Apologies to all who haver read this mantra before.

Speaking of the mantra, which I agree with, I have a question. I've been searching around for drives, but I don't know if I'm looking in the right places (newegg, pricewatch, etc.) What is the absolute largest drive I could put in the MBP, assuming it had the easy access HDD bay?

I'm going to end up getting external firewire drives anyway because I have large ammounts of data that isn't going to fit on a laptop drive. So I'm wondering if this is really so much of an issue if replaceable notebook drives aren't really big enough to accomodate my needs anyway.

 

[ccroo]

If not Tuesday / Photokina?

If not Tuesday / Photokina what is the next date we can obsess over? Is there something like Photokina coming up? Or will we be in limbo?

 

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Seagate Momentus 160GB Drives Are The Biggest That Fit In A MacBook

Speaking of the mantra, which I agree with, I have a question. I've been searching around for drives, but I don't know if I'm looking in the right places (newegg, pricewatch, etc.) What is the absolute largest drive I could put in the MBP, assuming it had the easy access HDD bay?

I'm going to end up getting external firewire drives anyway because I have large ammounts of data that isn't going to fit on a laptop drive. So I'm wondering if this is really so much of an issue if replaceable notebook drives aren't really big enough to accomodate my needs anyway.

Seagate Momentus 160GB drives are the biggest that fit in a MacBook. Apple already offers this drive as a $200 option on the new mini but still not on the MacBook nor the MacBook Pro.

There are 200GB 2.5" drives around, but they are all thicker. Perhaps Apple will make the new MBP HD Bay thicker.

I thinking of having Two or Three of these 160's so I can swap them out before going out for a day and then transfer their contents - HVD Footage - to the Quad when I get back to base. Could have them configured for different purposes with only a handful of applications loaded on them leaving maximum space for new files gathered in the field. Already bought two external 2.5" USB2 Enclosures at Frys for FREE on Labor Day.

 

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Wednesday after Columbus Day - October 11? Halloween Is On Tuesday Too

If not Tuesday / Photokina what is the next date we can obsess over? Is there something like Photokina coming up? Or will we be in limbo?

Wednesday after Columbus Day - October 11? Halloween is on Tuesday too.

But I will be surprised if it's not Monday. There must be a lot of folks like us waiting it out. It's not like C2D is a big secret. Also this week is the Intel Developer's Conference in San Francisco. It will be a natureal for Apple to want to have the new C2D mobile Macs in that Apple Store only a few blocks from Moscone during this show. There are even two Apple sessions at the conference. So it's not just Photokina in Germany that's driving this date. It's also the Intel Developer's Conference in San Francisco.

 

[Yannick]

another hint at a refresh?

From a French website www.macbidouille.com:
(english version: http://www.hardmac.com/news/2006-09-22/#5948)

MacBook Pro stocks at their lowest point - Lionel - 16:17:30

We just learnt about the MacBook Pro stock of a French gross reseller. He has no more 2.16 GHz machines. He only has 2 GHz models, and there's a rebate on them.
So if you wish to conclude a renewal is at hand, we don't need to push you in this direction, you said it yourself

We will soon see.

 

[vendettabass]

gaz wants C2D Macbook for xmas, will Apple deliver??

 

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If Waiting For Christmas, Wait 'til MacWorld January 9 iLife '07 Release With It

gaz wants C2D Macbook for xmas, will Apple deliver??

Yes. But if you're gonna wait that long to present it, you should give a card promising it after January 9 with iLife '07 included.

 

[ergle2]

Actually if you are buying now with the high memory prices I will definitely go the Apple upgrade route, here in Australia a stick of 1GB Sodimm costs an average of $190, which is in contrast to Apple's $380 pricing for 512 -> 2GB upgrade makes Apple's pricing very attractive.

Third party may be good, but what if you got a bum stick? There may be lifetime warranties, but depending on the manufacturer RMA procedures can be quite a nuisance too. Get the upgrades from Apple, and get free coverage for them when you buy a Applecare Protection Plan as well.

Well, on the current MBP, going to 2Gig on the cheapest model adds $500 to the price. I can get 2x1GB (brandname sticks) from a third party for ~$200 and still have the stick that comes in the MBP.

So, $300 + 512MB stick is the difference. I hadn't noticed that the new mini/iMac launch has presaged pricing more in line with the rest of the industry though.

Caveat Emptor, I guess.