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Multimedia said:
It's a professional feature they put in a consumer Mac. Historically this has led to the pro feature being added to the pro model in the next refresh. Some of us are thinking of a workflow that would include swapping out HDs daily among 2 or 3 different ones set up for different types of projects.

An empty 160GB HD can only hold about 11 hours of DV video on it before another one needs to be used instead.
Perhaps I'm splitting hairs but I think this is more of a productivity/cost issue. Recognizing that MacBooks are consumer-oriented products and hard drives are prone to failure, it makes more sense for Apple to give its MacBooks fast HD swap to shift more of the repair burden onto MacBook owners. For Apple, it's probably much cheaper to just ship out a new hard drive and a return receipt for the old one.

IMO, if Apple decides to include a fast swap HD feature in MBP, it won't be to satisfy uber-users who fill up 160GB drives daily. As long as pro-users are handling the hard-drive swaps themselves (and aside from a few scattered complaints about a tedious process), Apple may not consider their current design a problem. YMMV.
 
Torn About Monitor Stuff?

tteerts said:
I am sooo torn... a MB and iMac combination would be absolutely perfect if only the iMac display could be used with the notebooks... any ideas why they didn't put a video input on the iMacs?
AppliedVisual said:
So they can sell more monitords, duh! ;)

Actually, this (IMNSHO) is a total no-brainer type feature that should have been included on the 24" iMac. It could be a nice computer that could double as a secondary display (or even a primary display) for your notebook, Mac Pro, XServe, etc.. Would have been a nice feature on the 20" as well.

Oddly enough, I've brought this up once or twice in various forums and I've seen a few other people bring it up or comment on it as well. But it doesn't seem to be a highly requested feature.
A C2D MacBook or MacBook Pro with a Dell 24" 1920 x 1200 WideUXGA is similar to the C2D iMac - especially the MBP but if games and 3D work are not your thing then even the 2GHz C2D MacBook will do the trick. Just add a regular desktop keyboard and mouse and you can use the MB as a second screen while doing all your primary work on the big screen just like an iMac.

I agree it's a bummer corporate selling scheme driving why Apple hasn't built a screen input for mobile users to drive the iMac Screen from. That's why some of us here don't believe in the iMac concept in the first place - old school. We think non-laptop computers belong on the floor and monitors, keyboards and mice are for the desk. Call me crazy, it's just the way I was brought up. :eek:
 
Multimedia said:
That will be on the "Mac C2D Laptops Released" thread.

However, release alone will not make some of us happy. Some of us refuse to buy one without an easy access HD bay like they put in the MacBook in May.

Thankfully, I will be happy with just the C2D release. Better video card, easy access to hard drive, DL Superdrive.... that's all just a bonus to me.
 
Multimedia said:
A C2D MacBook or MacBook Pro with a Dell 24" 1920 x 1200 WideUXGA is similar to the C2D iMac - especially the MBP but if games and 3D work are not your thing then even the 2GHz C2D MacBook will do the trick. Just add a regular desktop keyboard and mouse and you can use the MB as a second screen while doing all your primary work on the big screen just like an iMac.

I agree it's a bummer corporate selling scheme driving why Apple hasn't built a screen input for mobile users to drive the iMac Screen from. That's why some of us here don't believe in the iMac concept in the first place - old school. We think non-laptop computers belong on the floor and monitors, keyboards and mice are for the desk. Call me crazy, it's just the way I was brought up. :eek:

It's still a bummer. I guess there may be a way to remote desktop or something like that to essentially be working on the Macbook but from the larger display on the iMac (or any other Mac in that case). That would probably be just as good. Anybody familiar with that?
 
cool article on spymac but it's nothing new... i mean if anybody really needs a MBP right now there's no loss in getting it right now... i mean the enhancements on the upcoming updates won't be too substantial that it warrants anybody needing it right a way to wait... 64-bit applications won't become the standard for many more years anyhow
 
tteerts said:
It's still a bummer. I guess there may be a way to remote desktop or something like that to essentially be working on the Macbook but from the larger display on the iMac (or any other Mac in that case). That would probably be just as good. Anybody familiar with that?

Apple Remote Desktop works great, but is a bit expensive for a home-use environment.
Look into free VNC products, should work...well enough.
 
Hello, First time poster, long time lurker. I've enjoyed reading these forums as I'm a future switcher and long time windows user. I'm looking at the macbook pro and like many I'm waiting for the C2D update.

I don't know if this means anything but I checked the Best Buy site and I know they do carry Apple's full line of base spec computers and as an employee (keep flaming to a min please) I never heard of Apple pulling their products from Best Buy. If you check their site, they carry all of Apple's computers EXCEPT for the laptops. Over a week ago I checked and I remembered seeing all of them listed on their site, now they only have one Macbook Pro 15" listed. Could this possibly be a sign of a refresh???

The same thing happens when they updated the Ipods except many of the Ipods showed "sold out" before the update.
 
ct-scan said:
Apple Remote Desktop works great, but is a bit expensive for a home-use environment.
Look into free VNC products, should work...well enough.

Ouch... yeah, $300 is more that I would want to drop for playing around at the house. I'll poke around and see if I can find some decent freeware.
 
preludemd said:
Hello, First time poster, long time lurker. I've enjoyed reading these forums as I'm a future switcher and long time windows user. I'm looking at the macbook pro and like many I'm waiting for the C2D update.

I don't know if this means anything but I checked the Best Buy site and I know they do carry Apple's full line of base spec computers and as an employee (keep flaming to a min please) I never heard of Apple pulling their products from Best Buy. If you check their site, they carry all of Apple's computers EXCEPT for the laptops. Over a week ago I checked and I remembered seeing all of them listed on their site, now they only have one Macbook Pro 15" listed. Could this possibly be a sign of a refresh???

The same thing happens when they updated the Ipods except many of the Ipods showed "sold out" before the update.

Thats really interesting, I hope it does mean something. Yet the macbooks are not there either, if it is any indication, would it mean that macbooks are getting an update as well? Also, why does it say - gray next to macbook pro? There is only one color anyway.
 
tteerts said:
Ouch... yeah, $300 is more that I would want to drop for playing around at the house. I'll poke around and see if I can find some decent freeware.

Tried VNC?
 
ergle2 said:

Nope, haven't tried anything yet... just started my search. I have heard of some guys around work that use Chicken of the VNC I think. Thanks for the link to that one. Any experience with it?
 
Opticdraft said:
Thats really interesting, I hope it does mean something. Yet the macbooks are not there either, if it is any indication, would it mean that macbooks are getting an update as well? Also, why does it say - gray next to macbook pro? There is only one color anyway.

I would assume that an update across the board for both laptops is on the way. It's just a matter of when.
 
ariechel said:
I think the information provided for the Back-to-School special (in the Swiss store) is a little deceptive.

On the rebate form, no mention is made of the part numbers of qualifying iPods, only of the relevant storage capacities. On the FAQ, though, the part numbers are given.


ik@ said:
In Germnay the following is said:
Mac – eines der folgenden Produkte:
(i) iMac 17” 1,83 GHz Intel Core Duo, iMac 20” 2 GHz Intel Core Duo,
iMac 17” 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, iMac 20” 2,16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo,
iMac 20” 2,33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, iMac 24” 2,16 GHz Intel Core 2
Duo, iMac 24” 2,33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo,
(ii) MacBook 13” 1,83 GHz Intel Core Duo, MacBook 13”
2 GHz Intel Core Duo (Weiß & Schwarz),
(iii) MacBook Pro 15,4” 1,83 GHz Intel Core Duo, MacBook Pro 15,4”
2 GHz Intel Core Duo, MacBook Pro 15,4” 2,16 GHz Intel Core Duo,
MacBook Pro 17” 2,16 GHz Intel Core Duo oder
(iv) Power Mac Dual 2 GHz Power PC G5, Power Mac Dual
2,3 GHz Power PC G5, Power Mac Quad 2,5 GHz Power PC G5.
(v) Mac Pro Quad 2 GHz Intel Xeon, Mac Pro Quad 2,66 GHz
Intel Xeon, Mac Pro Quad 3 GHz Intel Xeon




Ah-ha! Now were getting somewhere. I would imagine that this would be the case across all offers still available for this. Unless that particular country has some weird law or something.

So in short, with specific product numbers mentioned, I don't see any reason that a launch would be held up by this iPod offer.

Now that doesn't mean it won't be later vice sooner, just that it seems reasonable that it wouldn't be a cause for a worldwide delay in the announcement due to this promotion still being in effect.

Thanks for looking up the info. ;)
 
preludemd said:
I would assume that an update across the board for both laptops is on the way. It's just a matter of when.

Wouldn't be the first time they have done an update to the whole laptop line, if they do.
My preference is a MBP, but if they make the MB compelling enough, I might consider it. However, I hate the idea of graphics stealing my RAM.... so the MBP it probably is.
 
tteerts said:
Nope, haven't tried anything yet... just started my search. I have heard of some guys around work that use Chicken of the VNC I think. Thanks for the link to that one. Any experience with it?

Yeah, but only with the server on Windows machines, tho' I've run the client from everything - unix of various flavors, MacOS X and other Windows systems.

It works pretty well, but like all the remote solutions I've used, it's really not for for people wanting to run heavyweight apps like photoshop...

The Windows version offers a video driver that gives a huge speedup when used. As I said, no experience with the MacOS X server side, just the client.
 
ergle2 said:
Yeah, but only with the server on Windows machines, tho' I've run the client from everything - unix of various flavors, MacOS X and other Windows systems.

It works pretty well, but like all the remote solutions I've used, it's really not for for people wanting to run heavyweight apps like photoshop...

The Windows version offers a video driver that gives a huge speedup when used. As I said, no experience with the MacOS X server side, just the client.

Ok. Thanks again. I'll just give it a try and see if it works out or not. I don't plan on doing anything exotic so it should be sufficient.
 
I ordered at MBP last Wednesday because I finally got my fin aid check in. I called today and it has been delayed until later this week.
 
I think the MBP MUST be coming out tomorrow. Why? Because I didn't even order a current MBP and it's been delayed until forever!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111!!1!!!!11111one11!!!eleven

:p :p :D
 
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