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Not that this means anything, but if you call the Apple UK support line you get the following message...

"If you have received a revised delivery date for your MacBook or MacBook Pro, please note that we are currently experiencing a slight shipping delay. As new information becomes available we will continue to keep you updated via email. We apologise for any inconvience caused."
 
tangential

i was listening to Opie + Anthony (nationally syndicated radio show here in the USA) on the radio today and i caught the last minute of Anthony talking about how he wanted a MacBook Pro but it was not available in the store or something to that effect.

no real news here, just ironic.

i am starting to get irritated since i am 100% committed to waiting, but i am sick of waiting already.
 
meepm00pmeep said:
i've waited this long... might as well wait it out all the way... *sigh*

QFT

i almost wish i NEEDED one right now so i could justify buying a CD and just get a new machine already, but i have a working laptop now so i cannot make myself take the leap until C2D.
 
I guess i'll have to get that MacPro aftrall, i'd get refurb MacBook but cant even find any and my course director says we'll be doing 3D modelling, so a discrete graphics card is ideal. I was hoping to get a MBP so i can dual boot windws (100% compatibility with school network). I guess i'll have to use my PB for mobility and always do the major tasks on the MacPro when i get home from school.

I gotta say this is really strange behaviour from Apple, i dont think i've ever seen this happen before.....be this late or even skip a revision altogether.

But there has to be a revision, stores are running out of MBPs and this wouldnt be happening if there were no revisions planned. There has to be something but it looks like we wont see them till MacExpo in London. Which is a too far away to be honest.

PS anyone have an idea if SPSS is available for Macs?. Also can Powerpoint read presentations created by Keynote or its only the reverse thats possible?
 
daneoni said:
PS anyone have an idea if SPSS is available for Macs?. Also can Powerpoint read presentations created by Keynote or its only the reverse thats possible?

Yes for SPSS, http://www.spss.com/spss_mac/

Keynote can read PowerPoint, but PowerPoint can not read Keynote. You can convert a Keynote to a PowerPoint, but it doesn't usually look as nice (my suggestion, use Keynote where you can get away with it, and use PowerPoint where you can't).
 
SPSS OS X: http://www.spss.com/spss_mac/

You can also export Keynote presentations as PDF's which work pretty nicely. Just run them full-screen. Acrobat reader on windows can do that.

EDIT: Hahaha... CT-SCAN and I posted in the same moments. How amusing, and we responded to the same PS. It's the only question we can really answer I guess. All the rest of this cr*p is speculation.

daneoni said:
PS anyone have an idea if SPSS is available for Macs?. Also can Powerpoint read presentations created by Keynote or its only the reverse thats possible?

Don't make no sense to a lotta folks round here...

daneoni said:
I gotta say this is really strange behaviour from Apple
 
Why wait?

So I'm thinking about getting a MacBook (my first Mac ever -- very exciting) and keep putting it off, in anticipation of the allegedly imminent Merom update. Weeks go by. Can someone remind me what the fuss is about? What's so great about a Merom MB vs. the Yonah MB? I mean, it's great to be on the cutting edge and everything, but will I really notice a difference that matters?

I'm sure there's a thread somewhere that explains it very clearly, but til then, I'd love a quick reminder ...:confused:
 
Was in central London today so thought I would pop into the Apple store in regent street - first ever go on a MacBook Pro and have fallen in love. Damn you C2D chips - damn you all to hell!! If I had never heard of them I would have had a MBP by now - next Tuesday is now my deadline (as waiting for a cheque to come in from a client), then C2D or not a new MBP will be mine.
 
tzero said:
So I'm thinking about getting a MacBook (my first Mac ever -- very exciting) and keep putting it off, in anticipation of the allegedly imminent Merom update. Weeks go by. Can someone remind me what the fuss is about? What's so great about a Merom MB vs. the Yonah MB? I mean, it's great to be on the cutting edge and everything, but will I really notice a difference that matters?

I'm sure there's a thread somewhere that explains it very clearly, but til then, I'd love a quick reminder ...:confused:

Honestly, not a lot - 64 bit rather than 32 bit and a slight performance increase. Nothing most people will ever really notice. Only reason I am hanging on for the merom is because I somehow seem to have been waiting for 3 months now so am gonna peeved when I buy one a week before the meroms get released.
 
See... getting C2D into a MacBook matters less than the MacBook Pro. Most of the applications where 64-Bit will matter right now, aren't made for users of the MB in the first place. Folks doing graphics, scientific work, etc. Every day use on the MB, you wont notice a whole lot.

The big difference SSE3-extensions...can't remember the acronym (I refer to it as SSE4...someone corrected me earlier), 64-Bit, Bigger cache.

That said, 64-Bit will matter come Leopard time.

But for a MB user will it matter that much? Nope. MBP user? Definitely.

tzero said:
So I'm thinking about getting a MacBook (my first Mac ever -- very exciting) and keep putting it off, in anticipation of the allegedly imminent Merom update. Weeks go by. Can someone remind me what the fuss is about? What's so great about a Merom MB vs. the Yonah MB? I mean, it's great to be on the cutting edge and everything, but will I really notice a difference that matters?
 
ckodonnell said:
EDIT: Hahaha... CT-SCAN and I posted in the same moments. How amusing, and we responded to the same PS. It's the only question we can really answer I guess. All the rest of this cr*p is speculation.

Exactly! ;)
 
Question - Hate to post this here

Hi Everyone,

I hate to post this here, but I am getting really sick of waiting for my 1st Mac. I want a MMBP, but the thought of waiting until the "holiday season" is driving me bananas.

With a work discount, I could get the following,

15" MacBook Pro 2.1GHz + 3-yr AppleCare
for $2387+tax.

Is this a good enough deal to jump at, or should I wait?

Thanks for the advice

Neuroguy
 
Neuroguy said:
Hi Everyone,

I hate to post this here, but I am getting really sick of waiting for my 1st Mac. I want a MMBP, but the thought of waiting until the "holiday season" is driving me bananas.

With a work discount, I could get the following,

15" MacBook Pro 2.1GHz + 3-yr AppleCare
for $2387+tax.

Is this a good enough deal to jump at, or should I wait?

Thanks for the advice

Neuroguy

They say the best thing about buying new tech is the wait and anticipation. If you can wait...wait. If not the current machines are more than capable. Logically thre is no real improvement till Santa Rosa is released so buying now is even a good move.

I guess the issue is not with the merom upgrade itself but rather the adressing of the issues that plagues the MBPs initially which are supposedly fixed now.
 
My first deadline was WWDC, my second was Photokina and my third was today.

I think I'll just get a MBP later today - and help reduce the stocks for all you guys, resulting in a quicker introduction of MMBPs. You see how nice I am?
 
tzero said:
Can someone remind me what the fuss is about? What's so great about a Merom MB vs. the Yonah MB? I mean, it's great to be on the cutting edge and everything, but will I really notice a difference that matters?

Here is a quote from Macworld's recent coverage of the Leopard preview:

"In a decade or two, 32-bit computing may only be a distant memory, and the Mac OS (or whatever succeeds it) and the hardware it runs on will be fully optimized for 64-bit operation. By then, in hindsight, the addition of 64-bit application support in Leopard will look like a milestone on an important evolutionary path. But in the near term, it’s mostly of interest to developers of specialized technical applications. For most Mac fans—even graphics professionals and other power users—this is one leap forward that’s not likely to produce much of a splash when Leopard is unleashed next spring."

The "even graphics professionals and other power users..." part is particularly interesting.

The rest of the article is here:

http://www.macworld.com/2006/08/firstlooks/leo64/index.php

I wait because i don't want to miss out on a cool-looking new enclosure! (Tho I bet when it comes out I'll prefer the old one!)
 
dunc85 said:
My first deadline was WWDC, my second was Photokina and my third was today.

I think I'll just get a MBP later today - and help reduce the stocks for all you guys, resulting in a quicker introduction of MMBPs. You see how nice I am?

That is nice, dunc85. Would you be really nice and get one for me too?? That'd clear the stock even quicker. Think of it as your good deed for the day :D

lol
 
daneoni said:
"Yes for SPSS, http://www.spss.com/spss_mac/"

$1400?!?!. erm yeah not gonna happen. I'll stick to using the software via workstation in my uni.

1400?!?, thats a refurb BlackBook plus change for RAM

I vaguely remember something from the techie people at the Uni saying that SPSS works with OSX but not with the Intel chipped Macs. It would be next year before the software did that. Can't find the email to confirm though.
 
I guess i'll have to get that MacPro aftrall, i'd get refurb MacBook but cant even find any and my course director says we'll be doing 3D modelling, so a discrete graphics card is ideal. I was hoping to get a MBP so i can dual boot windws (100% compatibility with school network). I guess i'll have to use my PB for mobility and always do the major tasks on the MacPro when i get home from school.

I gotta say this is really strange behaviour from Apple, i dont think i've ever seen this happen before.....be this late or even skip a revision altogether.

But there has to be a revision, stores are running out of MBPs and this wouldnt be happening if there were no revisions planned. There has to be something but it looks like we wont see them till MacExpo in London. Which is a too far away to be honest.

PS anyone have an idea if SPSS is available for Macs?. Also can Powerpoint read presentations created by Keynote or its only the reverse thats possible?

PS anyone have an idea if SPSS is available for Macs?. Also can Powerpoint read presentations created by Keynote or its only the reverse thats possible?

Couple of notes:
-SPSS for Mac will not run correctly on any intel based Mac. In fact, according to the box, it won't even install!

-It sounds like you're a student, you should look into getting the Grad Pack version of SPSS. It's only $209 at my campus computer store, and has enough power for most students. Otherwise, follow the link below.

http://www.spss.com/vertical_markets/education/online.htm
 
Merom chips in short supply?

Just spotted this article at Digitimes and thought maybe it points to the reason for the delay:
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20061003A1001.html

Unexpectedly strong demand in the notebook market has resulted in CPU shortages, sending notebook makers scrambling to secure CPU supply for the fourth-quarter high season, according to industry sources.

Maybe Apple really did blow their entire allocation on the iMac's expecting that the supply would recover quickly intime for an early 4th quarter release of the MacBook Pro's, and then found out that the supply is more constrained then previously thought. I hope this is not really the case as I seriously want the new MBP (which will be my first mac)
 
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