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i think were seeing a delay in merom because the macbook pro was slimed when core duo was pasted in with hopes of merom being cooler. now with merom slightly hotter than the already hot duo 1 apple is taking this into acccount for santarosa and taking it's time to release the merom upgrade so that there is less redesign at santarosa and to counter act any unexpected hotter chips. plus they are still learning from the paste incident. so no thinner MBP's for a while :D
 
timmillwood said:
how do i become a student ADC member in UK?

I am looking to get a 17" MBP and wondered if i would get more thant student discount if i was ADC....

Is there anyway of finding out the discount before i sign up for ADC

The ADC discount, in the usa anyway, is 20%.
 
bobber205 said:
The ADC discount, in the usa anyway, is 20%.

ok thanks if its the same in the UK it wont be worth it, i would save about the same as i would spend on the ADC member ship.


Come on Apple bring me my Core 2 Duo MBP
&
Come on Sky bring me my new credit card
 
timmillwood said:
ok thanks if its the same in the UK it wont be worth it, i would save about the same as i would spend on the ADC member ship.

I just signed up for the student ADC membership in the US and configured a 17-inch MBP with 2GB RAM. It will save me $290 compared to the regular educational discount (including the cost of the ADC). I'm going to wait for the new chip before buying but thanks for the tip:)
 
Tadow said:
I just signed up for the student ADC membership in the US and configured a 17-inch MBP with 2GB RAM. It will save me $290 compared to the regular educational discount (including the cost of the ADC). I'm going to wait for the new chip before buying but thanks for the tip:)

About one year ago, I wanted to use the ADC student discount to buy a powerbook. So, I read the terms and conditions and I found that Apple warranty policy for the ADC-discounted computers is very stricter than the normal one.
It's so necessary buying an AppleCare extension. But in this case, you save the same amount of money of the Educational offer. Unless you don't care about warranty...
 
Also be aware that with ADC discounted systems, you can't resell them for at least one year after receiving them (Apple won't recognize a transfer of ownership and won't support a system sold to another party within that time). The warranty is a little different, but buying AppleCare will give you the same converage for the 3 years that you get from a normal retail purchase.

I'm an ADC select member and get 1 discounted system per year... I'm going to use that discount for the 8-core Mac Pro when it arrives in the next few months. :D
 
What are Apples terms when you buy a computer with the ADC student discount? Can you use it for pretty much anything, or is it ment for developing?
 
You can use the system for anything... The purpose behind ADC is to give registered developers a discount. For the Select membership it's $500 per year and you get a discount off of 1 system purchase per year. But the way the discounts work out, Macbook Pro systems barely recover your ADC membership costs, so it's not worth joining for a Macbook Pro. A Mac Pro, XServer or RAID system though can be worthwhile.

Student memberships are $99 and they give you a 1-time discounted system purchase. This can be a great way to save money on a system purchase for a student as Macbook Pro systems are $400 or more off in most cases, You can save $1K on a Mac Pro depending on the configuration! But Apple does reserve the right to review your course schedule to see if you're taking classes that warrant the system purchase. I don't know if they actually check or not -- don't know anyone who has bought the student ADC membership and then bought a system. So for a Macbook Pro or Mac Pro it could be a very worthwhile investment of $99 and about a week for them to review your membership application.

If you're only interested in a Macbook, a Mini or an iMac, just stick with the regular educational discount as it's about the same price and requires no membership investment on your part.
 
sycho said:
What are Apples terms when you buy a computer with the ADC student discount? Can you use it for pretty much anything, or is it ment for developing?

Well, they won't send somebody to your house to watch you use the computer all day. You can use it for whatever you want.
 
AppliedVisual said:
You can use the system for anything... The purpose behind ADC is to give registered developers a discount. For the Select membership it's $500 per year and you get a discount off of 1 system purchase per year. But the way the discounts work out, Macbook Pro systems barely recover your ADC membership costs, so it's not worth joining for a Macbook Pro. A Mac Pro, XServer or RAID system though can be worthwhile.

Student memberships are $99 and they give you a 1-time discounted system purchase. This can be a great way to save money on a system purchase for a student as Macbook Pro systems are $400 or more off in most cases, You can save $1K on a Mac Pro depending on the configuration! But Apple does reserve the right to review your course schedule to see if you're taking classes that warrant the system purchase. I don't know if they actually check or not -- don't know anyone who has bought the student ADC membership and then bought a system. So for a Macbook Pro or Mac Pro it could be a very worthwhile investment of $99 and about a week for them to review your membership application.

If you're only interested in a Macbook, a Mini or an iMac, just stick with the regular educational discount as it's about the same price and requires no membership investment on your part.

It may still be worth it, even if you have to buy the more expensive ($500) ADC membership and just break even with a MBP... There are other benefits as well, one of which (I think) is receiving new versions of OS X as part of your membership, which will save you some money in the future.
 
Will ADC Select Membership Save More Than Cost Of Membership On $4k 8-Core Mac Pro?

AppliedVisual said:
Also be aware that with ADC discounted systems, you can't resell them for at least one year after receiving them (Apple won't recognize a transfer of ownership and won't support a system sold to another party within that time). The warranty is a little different, but buying AppleCare will give you the same converage for the 3 years that you get from a normal retail purchase.

I'm an ADC select member and get 1 discounted system per year... I'm going to use that discount for the 8-core Mac Pro when it arrives in the next few months. :D
Is that the $500 per year level?

Can I get into that as a multimedia developer of video and web stuff?

How much will you be able to save on the $4k system? 20% or more? That would be $800 or more than the price of the membership if it's only $500.

Does membership include copies of Leopard when it ships and Beta copies meanwhile as well?

What other benefits do you like about ADC Select?

Thanks. BTW FWIW Check out my latest post at the 8-Core Thread regarding how the 2.66GHz Dual Clovertown Mac Pro may be worth an extra $700 above the 2.33GHz 8-core - total $3,999.
 
AppliedVisual said:
But Apple does reserve the right to review your course schedule to see if you're taking classes that warrant the system purchase. I don't know if they actually check or not -- don't know anyone who has bought the student ADC membership and then bought a system. So for a Macbook Pro or Mac Pro it could be a very worthwhile investment of $99 and about a week for them to review your membership application.
Hmmm sounds good, I'm in electrical engineering control systems at the moment a the college in town, I took VB, C++, assembly, and am now continuing on the VB and assembly, so I'm thinking I'll be ok for the class requirment. Hehehe, I already got a technica diploma by the way, and I'm only 19:eek: .

But I was looking at a Macbook Pro, and since this is suppose to be my last year of college, I'd mine as well use a nice 20%. But I guess if I got the membership, then order a Core2Duo MacBook Pro(if they are released:rolleyes: ), I'd be waiting quite the while for it to be delivred, right?
 
dclocke said:
Well, they won't send somebody to your house to watch you use the computer all day. You can use it for whatever you want.
Yah, but I'm cute and inoscent, and don't do anything wrong

HARDWARE PURCHASE AGREEMENT TERMS AND CONDITIONS said:
You may use products that you order under the ADC Hardware Purchase Program only for the purpose of developing software and/or hardware products that will be sold for use with Apple products.
It just seems dishonest to me, so I'll probally pass on it.
 
sycho said:
Hmmm sounds good, I'm in electrical engineering control systems at the moment a the college in town, I took VB, C++, assembly, and am now continuing on the VB and assembly, so I'm thinking I'll be ok for the class requirment. Hehehe, I already got a technica diploma by the way, and I'm only 19:eek: .

But I was looking at a Macbook Pro, and since this is suppose to be my last year of college, I'd mine as well use a nice 20%. But I guess if I got the membership, then order a Core2Duo MacBook Pro(if they are released:rolleyes: ), I'd be waiting quite the while for it to be delivred, right?


I signed up for the student ADC membership about 4 hours ago and when I went to check my status on the history page it said I was already approved. I guess it doesn't take a whole week.
 
Multimedia said:
Is that the $500 per year level?

Can I get into that as a multimedia developer of video and web stuff?

How much will you be able to save on the $4k system? 20% or more? That would be $800 or more than the price of the membership if it's only $500.

Does membership include copies of Leopard when it ships and Beta copies meanwhile as well?

What other benefits do you like about ADC Select?

Thanks. BTW FWIW Check out my latest post at the 8-Core Thread regarding 2.66GHz may be worth an extra $700 above the 2.33GHz 8-core - total $3,999.

Here's a helpful link: http://developer.apple.com/membership/details.html

To answer your questions, as best I can:

I don't think that "technically" multimedia qualifies. It might in certain cases, but I don't know how stringent they are on scoping out developers.

Yes, you would get pre-release, as well as public releases of te OS, as well as the server version. I'd say OS X, but it would also include 11, 12, or whatever it is at the time.

There's a select level , and a premier level:

Select: http://developer.apple.com/membership/select.html

Premier: http://developer.apple.com/membership/premier.html


As an example, the current base MP starts at $2499 in the main store, the ADC store starts at $1999.
 
Tadow said:
I signed up for the student ADC membership about 4 hours ago and when I went to check my status on the history page it said I was already approved. I guess it doesn't take a whole week.
ADC Student accounts are approved quickly but keep in mind that you also have to submit proof of enrollment to have your account verified. Based on my experience, the turnaround time for this is a few hours on a business day.
 
Is AppleCare Necessary When Purchasing A MBP?

Is AppleCare necessary when purchasing a MBP? And what are the reasons? My sense is that many in this thread see it as almost a must.

I have purchased Apple hardware beginning with the Apple II+, the original Mac 128(I still have that puppy), and at least an additional 15 Desktop systems and 5 PowerBooks/iBooks. I never purchased AppleCare with any of these systems and never(knock on wood) have had any problems.

Thanks
 
sycho said:
Yah, but I'm cute and inoscent, and don't do anything wrong

Yeah, and you can't spell too.

sycho said:
It just seems dishonest to me, so I'll probally pass on it.

Well it is a once in a lifetime thing, and Apple probably makes more in an hour than you, your spouse, your kids, your kids' spouses, and your grand kids can probably make in your collective lifetimes, so.... whatever :rolleyes:
 
OK.. Back on track...

OK... We have two days until another Tuesday passes. Think this is the one? I for one am going to be exasperated beyond speech if there is not C2D this week.
I've seen it mentioned that "Apple says they are going to update their line to C2D before the holidays", but is this really from the mouth of Apple or just from putting various rumors together?
 
generik said:
Yeah, and you can't spell too.



Well it is a once in a lifetime thing, and Apple probably makes more in an hour than you, your spouse, your kids, your kids' spouses, and your grand kids can probably make in your collective lifetimes, so.... whatever :rolleyes:
Once in your lifetime as a student. If you decide to purchase one of the regular ADC memberships then you are entitled to whatever discounts they include.
 
Bill Gates said:
Once in your lifetime as a student. If you decide to purchase one of the regular ADC memberships then you are entitled to whatever discounts they include.

Technically to Mr Honest Person he can probably pay for a Select ADC membership and still not use his hardware discount because he is so honest. You don't need to be a developer to join the ADC, you "can't" buy hardware that is not used to develop products that are to be sold for Apple products, oh Apple should so advertise ADC on TV to draw in the stupid and honest proles :rolleyes:
 
Another good thing about becoming a member of the ADC is that you will get a free upgrade to Leopard a bit after it's released!
 
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