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famusc said:
I don't think so: since you buy your computer through the ADC Store, it is part of the ADC material and so without warranty.

Hahahahahahaha, hahahahahaha, hahahahaha.

Yeah, Apple sell machines with no warranties whatsoever, for thousands of dollars, to developers.

Is this a piece of your brain? -------> .
 
maverick808 said:
Hahahahahahaha, hahahahahaha, hahahahaha.

Yeah, Apple sell machines with no warranties whatsoever, for thousands of dollars, to developers.

Is this a piece of your brain? -------> .

lol
 
maverick808 said:
Hahahahahahaha, hahahahahaha, hahahahaha.

Yeah, Apple sell machines with no warranties whatsoever, for thousands of dollars, to developers.

Is this a piece of your brain? -------> .

It's exactly what I think and in this way Apple forces you to buy Applecare and so they lose 250$ instead of 500$.
I can't see anything strange in this: it's a way to make something to seem discounted when, at the end, it's not.
 
famusc said:
It's exactly what I think and in this way Apple forces you to buy Applecare and so they lose 250$ instead of 500$.
I can't see anything strange in this: it's a way to make something to seem discounted when, at the end, it's not.

Why wouldn't you get an AppleCare anyways?!?! It should be part of the price in your head.

I've owned three PowerBooks over the past 6 years...and all of them have had to go back at one point or another.
TiBook 15" 500MHz - Screen after 2 years
AlBook 12" 768MHz - Logic Board after 2.5 years
AlBook 15" 1.25GHz - Logic Board (2.5 years) and Screen (1.5 years)

For this reason, along with others, I can't stress to friends of mine to always invest a few hundred dollars on a +$2500 purchase.
 
ct-scan said:
I've owned three PowerBooks over the past 6 years...and all of them have had to go back at one point or another.
TiBook 15" 500MHz - Screen after 2 years
AlBook 12" 768MHz - Logic Board after 2.5 years
AlBook 15" 1.25GHz - Logic Board (2.5 years) and Screen (1.5 years)
Is that the normal state of affairs with apple notebooks?
 
bazzalisk said:
I don't know how it is in germany, but in britain daily staples are excluded from VAT, which only applies to luxury items. This is not the place to push a right-wing anti-tax agenda, this is the place to shout and complain about how Apple hasn't yet brought out a Merrom MBP! ;)

Agreed, plenty of better places to have a go at the enfeebled tovarischi

ct-scan said:
Why wouldn't you get an AppleCare anyways?!?! It should be part of the price in your head

Definitely. I always get AppleCare now. I got badly burned with problems in the PC world, but AppleCare has been great so far.
 
Am3822 said:
Is that the normal state of affairs with apple notebooks?

I guess it really depends on your use.

The screen issue with my AlBook was a dark corner and "spots". I tried to have it fixed within the first 6 months of owning it...even had it shipped to Apple repair, but they sent it back unrepaired. It wasn't until like 1.5 years into my ownership that they acknowledged the issue, after that they replaced the screen without hassle at all.

A logic board can have an issue pretty randomly, or not at all. My laptop is my main machine, and I move around with it every working day. So I wouldn't say I abuse them, but they get very heavy use. The AlBook's upper ram slot stopped working randomly, and would just crash as it recognized and 'lost' the ram while working on it. It was a total pain, but they repaired without hassle again.

Just think of the investment, if you are going to use your laptop as a main money-making machine for over the 1 yr. mark, you really SHOULD get the AppleCare.

And this isn't limited to Apple notebooks, I am a tech and have seen many Dell/IBM/Gateway/HP..etc notebooks have issues after the 2yr marker. I've also seen laptops go 10 years without a single hardware issue.

I just it just depends on if you're a gambler ;)
 
Bill Gates said:
I'm not sure how this relates to my comment. What I was saying is that it isn't the only discount he can ever receive in his life. It's just the only one he can as a student.
He is just commenting that it's stupid for me to not get a MacBook Pro with the ADC student discount, even though I wouldn't be developing on it, thus, not following the Terms and Conditions. I'll make my own decisions generik.
 
sycho said:
He is just commenting that it's stupid for me to not get a MacBook Pro with the ADC student discount, even though I wouldn't be developing on it, thus, not following the Terms and Conditions. I'll make my own decisions generik.

I found that with 20% Discount (ADC) i dont save much more... i would rather get it without hassle of ADC member ship and i would want a warrenty

get it with HE discount its much better IMHO

But i just wish Apple would hurry, i dont even mind if they show me design specs etc now so i can plan my purchase then they can ship in a week or few
 
So, back on topic...

I have been thinking about the possible quick swap HDD for the past couple weeks. If you look at the MacBook, first thing the should be noted about the layout, is the the optical drive is located on the right side. Now, the reason that the HDD could be removed is cause they were able to fit it in no problem in the front half of the case. If we compare the layout of the MacBook Pro, we will see that the optical drive is located at the front right of the case. And I believe that the HDD is 'pointed' towards the back of the case, while it sits in the front left. The battery is kinda in the middle of that mess. How would they be able to make the HDD a quick swap if they have the optical drive blocking a good chunk of the case?

Just a thought I have been having.:confused:
 
Apple Engineers Have Figured Out How To Put A HD Bay In MBP

sycho said:
How would they be able to make the HDD a quick swap if they have the optical drive blocking a good chunk of the case?

Just a thought I have been having.:confused:
That's why they pay Apple Engineers the big bucks. Don't worry. They have to do it. It's not like they have a choice to leave the HD inaccessable. If they do, I will vote with my wallet and buy a C2D MacBook. No way are they going to convince me the HD Bay is not possible on the MBP.
 
Multimedia said:
That's why they pay Apple Engineers the big bucks. Don't worry. They have to do it. It's not like they have a choice to leave the HD inaccessable. If they do, I will vote with my wallet and buy a C2D MacBook. No way are they going to convince me the HD Bay is not possible on the MBP.
Hahaha, fair enough:D

Let's hope it's really soon though, as my 1.33GHz Athlon running ubuntu is getting slugish, but I blame Flash and XMMS mostly.
 
Multimedia said:
It's not like they have a choice to leave the HD inaccessable. If they do, I will vote with my wallet and buy a C2D MacBook.
Man, you think highly of yourself. :p
They have a choice to leave it, and plenty, like myself, would still buy it, like it or not. It's not important to me. I can sympathize though, and hope for it for the fun of it. :)
 
Don't know if it's relevant, and don't know if they've always been like that, but :) if you specify the 160gb hd in the mini, delivery estimate goes from 3 days (100gb bto) to 4-6 weeks. Does it mean that all hands (and hard drives) are on the mbp bump deck? Would they be the same drives?

ps: saw a brand new black macbook delivered to office today (ordered 2 weeks ago bto), first check: still cd... other white one ordered a week ago shipped from asia today.... ?

pimped mbps tomorrow, i can feel it in me waters :p
 
If there is an update, I am looking more for redesigns rather than C2D. Frankly, C2D kinda scares me a bit given that it will run a little bit hotter than CD. So...if you are doing hefty tasks like playing a 3D game or doing some heavy file conversion activities for extended periods of time, etc...the laptop will get hotter than the current model. That's a scary thought.

The headache associated with this doesn't justify the 5-10% performance gain in my book.

I would rather see a swappable CPU socket and a swappable HD. That way, we just upgrade the CPU/RAM/HD ourselves. That an a magnetic latch. =)
 
160GB HDs Stock Size In 17" MBP - Fantasy

blackstarliner said:
Don't know if it's relevant, and don't know if they've always been like that, but :) if you specify the 160gb hd in the mini, delivery estimate goes from 3 days (100gb bto) to 4-6 weeks. Does it mean that all hands (and hard drives) are on the mbp bump deck? Would they be the same drives?
Wouldn't it be cool if 160GB was the stock size in the 17"? Oh this is Apple. Sorry. :p
 
Soo my MBP arrived and i'm typing on it right now. First impressions: it came as described i didnt get goodies this time, the whine is still very much there as i feared but is much less pronounced compared to my first one and barely audible but still exists non-theless. Using the mirror widget to remedy it though. I haven't really stressed it but there doesn't seem to be any heat issues although its slightly hotter than my PB. Its fast but man i wished a C2D was sitting inside.

Shipped with 10.4.6 and lacks an SMC firmware update but im wary of installing anything right now. Basically its alright but i wonder why i still miss/long for my PowerBook. Hmmm might trade this in for a Mac Pro and use my PowerBook for mobility still undecided. I'll try it for a few days and see how it goes. In the meantime i hope Apple comes to their senses and release the updates but then again who is to say those wont have their own can of worms.

Edit: So i ran the yes dev null commands for about 20 minutes and the temperature wouldnt rise above 29 deg C with both processors at maximum (2.17)....thats pretty darn good and the fans arent as loud as my brothers MB...well maybe that'll change after i install the SMC update
 
Merom Runs Cooler Not Hotter • No CPU Sockets In Apple Mobiles

jashic said:
If there is an update, I am looking more for redesigns rather than C2D. Frankly, C2D kinda scares me a bit given that it will run a little bit hotter than CD. So...if you are doing hefty tasks like playing a 3D game or doing some heavy file conversion activities for extended periods of time, etc...the laptop will get hotter than the current model. That's a scary thought.

The headache associated with this doesn't justify the 5-10% performance gain in my book.

I would rather see a swappable CPU socket and a swappable HD. That way, we just upgrade the CPU/RAM/HD ourselves. That an a magnetic latch. =)
CPU scokets are not possible in Apple Mobiles. Their slim size is achieved by soldering the CPU directly to the logic board.

I do not agree with you Merom runs hotter. All the reviews and tests I have read indicate the opposite - that Merom runs cooler not hotter.

What evidence do you have they run hotter? Link(s)?
 
If You Think You Might Want A Mac Pro Instead, You Better Get A Mac Pro

daneoni said:
Hmmm might trade this in for a Mac Pro and use my PowerBook for mobility still undecided. I'll try it for a few days and see how it goes. In the meantime i hope Apple comes to their senses and release the updates but then again who is to say those wont have their own can of worms.
If you have the slightest notion that you would rather have a Mac Pro and don't need state-of-the-art mobility for more than email and browsing, it's a no brainer - Get The Mac Pro.

I have to wait another couple of months for mine. Have the cash ready for the 8-core Mac Pro. I still have no Intel Mobile Mac. But I hardly ever leave the office. My 3-year old 1.25GHz Aluminum PB is fine for the few times I do.

You get so much more power with a Mac Pro man. The 8-core model isn't even going to cost any more than the 3GHz 4-core model does. But you have to have a Multi-Threaded Workload to appreciate it. I'm stressing out my Quad G5 all the time with applications that can use 2-4 cores each. I know I need 8-cores without a doubt.

Did you look at Otellini's Keynote yet? Or Gelsinger's 8-core demo? Don't forget to install Flip4Mac if you haven't already so these will play in your QuickTime Player.

Merom Core 2 Duo is great for mobility. But the 8-core Mac Pro is going to change a lot of lives big time.
 
Multimedia said:
Wouldn't it be cool if 160GB was the stock size in the 17"? Oh this is Apple. Sorry. :p

im really hoping for a removable 160GB HDD when i get my 17" MBP

I would like 2 but that will never happen but i think they will put a 160gb in even if it's a BTO options, why should the Mac Mini have one and not the MBP

A little of topic....
... the iPod mini got scrapped for the iPod nano when i will the Mac Mini get scrapped for a Mac Nano?
 
Multimedia said:
CPU scokets are not possible in Apple Mobiles. Their slim size is achieved by soldering the CPU directly to the logic borad.

I do not agree with you Merom runs hotter. All the reviews and tests I have read indicate the opposite - that Merom runs cooler not hotter.

What evidence do you have they run hotter? Link(s)?

from what i've read, it's about the same. i haven't read anything about being cooler
 
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