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Full Laptop Refresh By Holidays?
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Surf and Turf said:
No. As far as I know, Monday was not a holiday for Apple, and so a Wednesday release is very unlikely. I think it's back to the regular chant of "Next Tuesday" now.
So, what's the percentage of people who will actually buy a Merom-fitted MBP after all this whining vs. the number of people who will STILL complain (and/or not buy it anyway, but just wanted to voice their phantom frustrations)?
deputy_doofy said:
You mean the ratio? It's 5.38:1. Dunno why you'd want to know that though.
monday was columbus day was't it, high schools had mon off and i have thurs+fri off. so maybe wed, but i doubt apple has it set to the socond day of the work week that hard core. but there was a wed release recently wasent there? it's nearly the middle of the month and the shopping season is gathering. I think shuffle will begin feed.maverick808 said:No. As far as I know, Monday was not a holiday for Apple, and so a Wednesday release is very unlikely. I think it's back to the regular chant of "Next Tuesday" now.
Yes, I suppose Ratio was the exact word I was looking for. My point is, so many people complain that it's not here. So many people will complain when the MBP doesn't have X. Yet, based on past experiences, these types of people NEVER planned on buying this upcoming iteration anyway. They just want to complain about stuff and things.maverick808 said:
I disagree. Apple cannot be smug about the Zune because of Microsoft's marketing clout, the eagerness of content providers (music labels, film studios, etc.) to have a strong iPod competitor, and because however crippled the Zune does sport capabilities the iPod doesn't yet have.fastdrive said:
I imagine Microsoft thinks of Zune as a replay of Xbox's strategy against PS2. PS2 was better but by attracting "developers" (aka content providers) to the platform and getting some mindshare, Microsoft was then able to pull together its vast resources to beat Sony to market with XBox 360.
Apple's best shot here to make sure that Microsoft's Zune player never gets any traction. How does it do that? Release a product with a substantially better feature set, before the Zune is released, at the same or slighty higher price point, so the average holiday shopper wouldn't even consider buying one. Retailers would be left with excess Zunes in inventory that they either sell at substantial discounts, or that dump back on Microsoft.
deputy_doofy said:
I dunno, it seems logical that most people still looking at this thread after nearly 2000 posts must be somewhat considering buying a MBP. I mean, if you are reading thousands of posts on the upcoming MBP release and aren't even considering buying at all then you have way too much time on your hands. Anyway, I'm sure if the MBP update is released and has X, Y, Z, then far more of these people will buy it than if it is released and only has X.
EDIT: oops, it's already over 2000 posts. I didn't even notice.
Surf and Turf said:
I've always been of the opinion that if there were to be a release this week, it will be on wednesday. While Columbus Day here in the US is a fairly minor holiday and not observed by most businesses, it still is a holiday observed by the federal government and many government offices, banks and post offices were closed on monday.
Anyway, I still say that 10/31 is the day... Hopefully Apple proves me wrong by releasing earlier, but I doubt they will.
i belive that your right. the zune despite it's menu lag, looks pretty cool. there is a lot more stuff going on IN the device. More on the go personalization. more time spent using it. they will attract many developers for this and enhance thir phone market and do a microsoft-bill world communications take over. battles will be waged and stock lost and many try to rise against...but, too late. Zune got a head start on the market and people were forced to like it because it was what everyone was familar with. the fabled true video ipod is the only wepon that will be able to deflect the creature that's comming, ZUNE.jericho878 said:
maverick808 said:
Yeah, this thread is completely nuts and all of us here are insane. What's sad is that I probably won't buy a new MBP until Apple has an update with 802.11n support, a better GPU and support for a full 4GB (or more) RAM. This points to next spring/summer with Santa Rosa, unless Apple and Intel have something special up their sleeve for the imminent update. ...In which case, I will continue to enjoy my current MBP and instead of handing it down to the wife, I will just buy her a Macbook and probably a core duo model once they're discounted.
i think they will have something special up their sleeve for this update. I have a good feeling that it will be at mwsf. I can wait.AppliedVisual said:
Basically, if the Merom MBPs aren't released tomorrow, I'm out of options. Like I said, Apple's basically buying me this computer to replace the broken-ass tibook i'm struggling along with now, but their kindness has its limits. I doubt very much that i can stall any longer on ordering.
Looks like I'll be selling a Yonah MBP within a couple of months. *sigh*
Looks like I'll be selling a Yonah MBP within a couple of months. *sigh*
macman2790 said:
If Apple don't update until MWSF then they have really truely dropped the ball. Apple is already behind virtually every other computer manufacturer out there by over a month. Whilst the Apple faithful may be willing to put up with this, and wait however long it takes for new Macs to come out, potential switchers will not be. To them, they look at the market and see that right now Apple are using last generation chips whilst every other manufacturer has moved on.
Imagine if Apple don't update until MWSF. That means that at the start of January potential switchers will look at Apple and see that they are using chips that have been out of date for over 3 months in their PREMIUM top end machine. Furthermore, they'll also see that although the market has moved rapidly, as it always does, Apple haven't bothered to update their flagship notebook for an entire year.
maverick808 said:
MB and MBP will be updated together if it's holiday shopers their after. if you look at it october holds a i level release, shuffle, and a pro lever release, xserve/xraid. this would be a good time to introduce updated to Mb and MBP because of the customer traffic that will come with it. pros will look ata Mbp to purchase with their server, and people buying shuffles will look at the new lower priced upgraded Mb's. i love october!
tarjan said:
But Apple stores were open, which means it wasn't a holiday for Apple staff. So I really doubt there would be a release tomorrow.
They cant release the product without being able to ship the product, and all stores have to have product at the same time in the apple world. Therefore I can try to rationalize why a holiday that should have no effect on the possible sale of apple's goods, could in reality cause major issues when it comes to actually selling on a specific date.
In other words, I am bored and sick of waiting like everyone else. The laptops are so close to what I would pay money for, but not quite there yet. Very frustrating!
In other words, I am bored and sick of waiting like everyone else. The laptops are so close to what I would pay money for, but not quite there yet. Very frustrating!
deputy_doofy said:
I'll buy the moment it becomes available.
My AlBook is out of warranty this month...
deputy_doofy said:
Shameless self promotion alert !
I can only speak for myself, and my story is that I am a university student who doesn't want to pay a premium for old technology. I don't think I could afford to buy another machine while I'm a student, so I want to make sure that I get the best Mac for my money right now.