Galaxy Fold Launch Delayed as Samsung Commits to 'Strengthen the Display Protection' [Updated]

[ROGmaster]

I already know this, so why are you bringing this up? Doesn’t change the fact you’re wrong, or that all your desperate posts to bash Apple have anymore credibility.

It actually does when you claimed that: Integrate so fast? Is that why it took until the 5S to get fingerprint sensing when everyone was expecting it in the 5?

So I'm the one that's correct and I don't have any need to insult users left and right like you are doing right now.

 

[realtuner]

It actually does when you claimed that: Integrate so fast? Is that why it took until the 5S to get fingerprint sensing when everyone was expecting it in the 5?

So I'm the one that's correct and I don't have any need to insult users left and right like you are doing right now.

It was well over a year before Apple had a working sensor. You call that fast? When AuthenTec was already shipping working sensors to other device manufacturers for years before Apple acquired them?

The only insult I see in this thread are all the people trying to derail it and make it about anything OTHER than the disaster that is the Galaxy Fold.

 

[sane.voice]

Had Galaxy Fold been released to public and there were issues like these, then there would be carnage, class action suits, what not. Good thing they stopped the release else they would be facing backlash similar to a bad product from Apple.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I watched the videos and I do agree with him on his new technology is impressive no matter which brand - point of view.
Although I can’t get rid of the feeling that he’s desperately trying to talk away the issues with the fold.
He and his guests are carefully blaming the reviewers for the damage.
All the talk about the high price and according to it you have be very carful with the device and one wouldn’t treat it like an ordinary phone. I mean c’mon this is supposed to be used like a phone and or a tablet, not a science project. Do I have to wear gloves? Will it resist sunlight? I’m not here to mock Samsung but if it’s really that fragile it’s probably just not ready yet.

I think Samsung know it’s not ready for the mass market which is why they only made a million units to be sold worldwide in the first place. It wasn’t a device that everybody could just go and walk into a store to buy.
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I just hope they took this as a warning and remember to mention that protective peel when—and if they ever launch.

I think on the retail units there was a warning. I think the issue is that it’s an easy thing to do and some consumers wouldn’t bother to read the warning and just go ahead and peel it off.

 

[ROGmaster]

It was well over a year before Apple had a working sensor. You call that fast? When AuthenTec was already shipping working sensors to other device manufacturers for years before Apple acquired them?

Actually 1 year and roughly 2 months later (not well over a year like you claimed) Apple had a fully working phone with a fingerprint sensor.
The sensor in the 5s also must have been fully ready months before the phone went into production.
How is that not fast? It was basically the best case scenario for Apple.

The only insult I see in this thread are all the people trying to derail it and make it about anything OTHER than the disaster that is the Galaxy Fold.

So why are you insulting me and calling a liar? Like I just proved I'm definitely not a liar. I'm not even as agreasive as you and I don't try to exaggerate all the time like you.

 

[macduke]

Hmm?

Details, details.
They don't matter it seems.

I know! They don't seem to matter at all, since that's not even the YouTube channel that I was talking about, which still hasn't posted anything about this as of the current date and time! I had no idea that the man who runs the Unbox Therapy channel has another, MUCH smaller channel with 57X fewer followers where he actually talks about Samsung controversies. Interesting that he keeps that discussion off his main channel, but any time there is any little small thing with Apple it's blasted to the masses. But I'm sure that's just a huge coincidence, right? Because DETAILS DON'T MATTER. You said so yourself and it seems like you actually buy into that. Unlike many Android users, I have never hung around on Android centric sites or blogs criticizing Android. Sometimes Unbox Therapy comes up in my YT feed because they cover a lot of Apple stuff but they are clearly Android fans. How am I supposed to keep track of every small-time channel this wack job runs?

 

[Khedron]

I know! They don't seem to matter at all, since that's not even the YouTube channel that I was talking about, which still hasn't posted anything about this as of the current date and time! I had no idea that the man who runs the Unbox Therapy channel has another, MUCH smaller channel with 57X fewer followers where he actually talks about Samsung controversies. Interesting that he keeps that discussion off his main channel, but any time there is any little small thing with Apple it's blasted to the masses. But I'm sure that's just a huge coincidence, right? Because DETAILS DON'T MATTER. You said so yourself and it seems like you actually buy into that. Unlike many Android users, I have never hung around on Android centric sites or blogs criticizing Android. Sometimes Unbox Therapy comes up in my YT feed because they cover a lot of Apple stuff but they are clearly Android fans. How am I supposed to keep track of every small-time channel this wack job runs?

Yes he has a second channel which he dedicates to longer and more detailed discussions. Most YouTubers do otherwise the algorithm buries you main channel if you put out content that doesn't get as many views. Also, why would he discuss other people's problems on his main channel when his own experience has been very enjoyable and without problems?

 

[macduke]

Yes he has a second channel which he dedicates to longer and more detailed discussions. Most YouTubers do otherwise the algorithm buries you main channel if you put out content that doesn't get as many views. Also, why would he discuss other people's problems on his main channel when his own experience has been very enjoyable and without problems?

Because it's a massive news story with broad appeal that would get tons of views? That's like saying news outlets shouldn't have covered Samsung's battery explosion story because their own Note 7 wasn't exploding. I don't get your argument at all. I mean, he covered AirPower being canceled. Apple actually cancelled something because it doesn't live up to their high expectations. Meanwhile Samsung puts out a $2000 phone—TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS—where many of the devices are failing within days and he doesn't cover it on his main channel, but instead puts out a video showing that his personal unit is fine? Come on. In this instance your own personal experience doesn't mean there isn't a problem. And clearly there is since they delayed the launch. Just a few years ago all these Android people were freaking out about Apple putting out a $1000 phone. Samsung says hold my beer, let's do a $2000 phone where the review units break and nothing? Come on man. If you can't see how unreasonable this is, then you never will and we should just stop talking.

 

[wigby]

All from experience guy. Cracks me up to see how defensive people get when you mention Apple in a negative light. Reality Distortion field is strong with you.
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All from experience guy. Cracks me up to see how defensive people get when you mention Apple in a negative light. Reality Distortion field is strong with you.

Meanwhile your argument is completely based on emotion unless you have some specific experience to share with us. I mention specifics and numbers and you dismiss as defensive.
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4 confirmed broken (2 due to user disassembly) out of thousands of first batch products.

They didn't send out "thousands" for review. Samsung sent out dozens. So I would expect hundreds of units to be faulty.

Or are you defending Samsung even though they themselves have paused their release date to re-engineer the product?

 

[jakeenzo]

Apple has numerous patents related to TouchID separate from AuthenTec. Integrate so fast? Is that why it took until the 5S to get fingerprint sensing when everyone was expecting it in the 5?

All I see from you are a bunch of lies trying desperately to bash Apple in a thread about the disaster/POS that is the Galaxy Fold.
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Sure. Spin it any way you like. Samsung now has the record for the two worst product launches in history.

I'm not spinning anything. It's fact. The Galaxy Fold was never officially released.

 

[mikayla82ca]

Well the OP does have a point. Why so salty to throw a low blow to call him a “fanboy”?
You do realize that this site is an Apple fan site about leaks and news right??

If you’re so salty about this TRUE comment, then maybe you should go take your meds.

You’re handpicking issues and exaggerating them. Every company releases products that might or might not have design issues that can’t be found in regular product testing.

Apple never rushes to be the first. They try to do it the best and make it BEST for the user experience.
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Samsung has been working on this for 7-8 years. That’s pathetic.

And your point? The Apple Lisa was in development from 1978 until it's release in 1983. That's 5 years, and it failed spectacularly. From the failure came a lot of good things, many of which helped shape computing today. So sure, stick your head in the sand and call Samsung's phone a failure. Hate on it all you want, but one day you'll be holding a piece of technology that will be shaped by this failed attempt. It's really sad that people sit back and say things like "Your phone sucks, it's not an iPhone." Or "Oh that's a piece of trash, it's not an Android." Why do you care? Why not just be happy with what you have? Why attempt to force someone to see how much "better" yours is. Not you specifically, but the universal You. Just let it go people. Let it go.

 

[realtuner]

Actually 1 year and roughly 2 months later (not well over a year like you claimed) Apple had a fully working phone with a fingerprint sensor.
The sensor in the 5s also must have been fully ready months before the phone went into production.
How is that not fast? It was basically the best case scenario for Apple.

So why are you insulting me and calling a liar? Like I just proved I'm definitely not a liar. I'm not even as agreasive as you and I don't try to exaggerate all the time like you.

When Apple bought AuthenTec they didn't just sit down one day and say "let's buy these guys out and see if they have something they can use". Apple would look at what technology the company has (likely through an NDA during negotiations) and would know virtually everything about AuthenTec and their company LONG BEFORE they purchased them. You can't look at the actual date the sale was announced as the "start date" for Apple starting to further develop and incorporate AuthenTec technology into TouchID.

Bottom line: Apple has contributed significantly to TouchID - they DID NOT buy a ready-made solution that simply required Apple to "fit it in an iPhone" (what the poster I replied to suggested). There are numerous patents credited to Apple around TouchID. It's just another lame attempt to try and claim Apple never innovates and simply buys all their technology. That would actually be Google that fits that MO.
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I'm not spinning anything. It's fact. The Galaxy Fold was never officially released.

You're being pedantic. People can order them. They already started production. They gave finished production units to reviewers to use before their launch date (like both Samsung and Apple do with all their new devices).

Samsung had every intention of launching the Fold on Apr 26th. Until review units failed and they got so much bad press over it.

 

[cmaier]

When Apple bought AuthenTec they didn't just sit down one day and say "let's buy these guys out and see if they have something they can use". Apple would look at what technology the company has (likely through an NDA during negotiations) and would know virtually everything about AuthenTec and their company LONG BEFORE they purchased them. You can't look at the actual date the sale was announced as the "start date" for Apple starting to further develop and incorporate AuthenTec technology into TouchID.

Bottom line: Apple has contributed significantly to TouchID - they DID NOT buy a ready-made solution that simply required Apple to "fit it in an iPhone" (what the poster I replied to suggested). There are numerous patents credited to Apple around TouchID. It's just another lame attempt to try and claim Apple never innovates and simply buys all their technology. That would actually be Google that fits that MO.
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You're being pedantic. People can order them. They already started production. They gave finished production units to reviewers to use before their launch date (like both Samsung and Apple do with all their new devices).

Samsung had every intention of launching the Fold on Apr 26th. Until review units failed and they got so much bad press over it.

Hell, even AFTER the reviewers came out and revealed the spectacular fragility of this garbage, samsung explicitly stated they STILL intended to commence sales without any delay. It was only after a couple of days of humiliation that they finally did the right thing.

 

[baryon]

This is quite a positive way to address an issue. While we don't yet know what Samsung will do, I much prefer this way of handling things – admitting that there is a problem, and promising to work on a fix – rather than what Apple did with Butterflygate: nothing.

 

[JackStrawFromWichit4]

This is quite a positive way to address an issue. While we don't yet know what Samsung will do, I much prefer this way of handling things – admitting that there is a problem, and promising to work on a fix – rather than what Apple did with Butterflygate: nothing.

Except they did do something...https://www.apple.com/support/keyboard-service-program-for-macbook-and-macbook-pro/

Might not have been the best solution and it took them a while to start but to say they did nothing is incorrect.

 

[ROGmaster]

I know! They don't seem to matter at all, since that's not even the YouTube channel that I was talking about, which still hasn't posted anything about this as of the current date and time! I had no idea that the man who runs the Unbox Therapy channel has another, MUCH smaller channel with 57X fewer followers where he actually talks about Samsung controversies. Interesting that he keeps that discussion off his main channel, but any time there is any little small thing with Apple it's blasted to the masses. But I'm sure that's just a huge coincidence, right? Because DETAILS DON'T MATTER. You said so yourself and it seems like you actually buy into that. Unlike many Android users, I have never hung around on Android centric sites or blogs criticizing Android. Sometimes Unbox Therapy comes up in my YT feed because they cover a lot of Apple stuff but they are clearly Android fans. How am I supposed to keep track of every small-time channel this wack job runs?

Of course details matter.
Lew is Unbox Therapy so if you are criticizing Unbox Therapy you are criticizing Lew and that's exactly what you did.

Bottom line: Apple has contributed significantly to TouchID - they DID NOT buy a ready-made solution that simply required Apple to "fit it in an iPhone" (what the poster I replied to suggested). There are numerous patents credited to Apple around TouchID. It's just another lame attempt to try and claim Apple never innovates and simply buys all their

How do you really know what they actually did?
Do you work at Apple's R&D center?
A few previous posts you were suggesting that everybody was waiting to see the fingerprint sensor with the iphone 5. Be serious.

Bottom line:Shanghaichica is correct. Apple's doesn't have Samsung's manufacturing prowess and they have to wait for Samsung to perfect the foldable screen tech.

 

[MacMan988]

What's interesting is, I haven't seen anyone talking about this issue on any other online communities that much. But if this happens to an Apple device, the whole internet is gonna be full of memes and discussion threads about it.

 

[jamesnajera]

Will only be worse if it's not released

Either way it will be worse, because this can not be fixed by a software update. How did a phone get this far in quality control testing to have such a failure rate with just demo units? Apple never went as far to release AirPower to tech reviewers. So either Samsung is going to have to pull this product late in the game, do a significant delay and repair units already produced, or scrap this and start over.

 

[Superrenz]

Maybe reviewers were just folding it wrong

 

[FFR]

When Apple bought AuthenTec they didn't just sit down one day and say "let's buy these guys out and see if they have something they can use". Apple would look at what technology the company has (likely through an NDA during negotiations) and would know virtually everything about AuthenTec and their company LONG BEFORE they purchased them. You can't look at the actual date the sale was announced as the "start date" for Apple starting to further develop and incorporate AuthenTec technology into TouchID.

Bottom line: Apple has contributed significantly to TouchID - they DID NOT buy a ready-made solution that simply required Apple to "fit it in an iPhone" (what the poster I replied to suggested). There are numerous patents credited to Apple around TouchID. It's just another lame attempt to try and claim Apple never innovates and simply buys all their technology. That would actually be Google that fits that MO.
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You're being pedantic. People can order them. They already started production. They gave finished production units to reviewers to use before their launch date (like both Samsung and Apple do with all their new devices).

Samsung had every intention of launching the Fold on Apr 26th. Until review units failed and they got so much bad press over it.

You have a point the poster did indeed infer that apple just bought the company and slapped an off the shelf sensor on it which as you proved was not the case.

The AirPower was a failed product and apple canceled it, interesting to see so many on here compare the fold to a failed product that never worked. Guess that means Samsung should cancel it too just like apple did with AirPower because it just doesn’t work.

Apt comparison, apple canceled a 200 dollar failure and Samsung delayed/cancelled a 2000 dollar failure.

 

[FFR]

I think Samsung know it’s not ready for the mass market which is why they only made a million units to be sold worldwide in the first place. It wasn’t a device that everybody could just go and walk into a store to buy.
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I think on the retail units there was a warning. I think the issue is that it’s an easy thing to do and some consumers wouldn’t bother to read the warning and just go ahead and peel it off.

So according to you the galaxy note was not a mass market product. Ouch.

Aren’t they selling the fold through carrriers, never knew carriers wouldn’t allow people to walk into their stores and buy a phone.

You must be getting one let us know how you like it.

 

[Greenmeenie]

And then they release it and it’s not perfect. Instead, the keyboard is crap, the screen craps out or the touch screen dies.

Lol. Nah. But it does blow away the competition.

 

[cmaier]

Looks like another reviewer’s unit died. https://www.androidcentral.com/mrmobile-not-surprised-just-disappointed-his-galaxy-fold-defective

 

[Zedcars]

Samsung can't build a folding screen.

But Apple can't even build a charging pad.

How about:
Samsung can build and release a defective folding screen.

Apple can build, but don’t release, a defective charging pad.

 

[Keane16]

I’ve grown to hate Apples QA as of late but come on.

You must be young. You should've seen how awful OS X was when it launched (so bad they gave the 2nd version away as a free update - back when these things were never free). Makes current day Apple look god like.

Can't believe it was nearly 20 years ago.

But yes the place would be in meltdown had this been Apple, tech forums are a sad state of affairs unfortunately.