Galaxy Nexus vs. iPhone 4S

[SurferMan]

****** apps = no better. See, iPhone users USE their phone, Android users CUSTOMIZE their phone. There is a huge difference.

Uhhh one of my iPhones is fully customized to the hilt (jb'd), and I used it. My SGII stock can do a ton more to setup exactly how I want it w/o a new rom (though going to flash UnNamed), and I use it. Majority of my employees have Droid phones and use for personal and business, I just finally went droid with my SGII. No problem integrating with anything, actually I like it much better for biz/personal use and none of iOS 5's advantages like iCloud etc mean anything since you could do all that on Android beforehand. And so much easier and more efficient to use then to deal with annoying iTunes, if I want a file or certain things moved back and forth, or quickly put a song on etc, just mount the phone, drag whatever you want to it or from it and that's it... no having to deal with iTunes.

And I have to say the 4.3" screen is gorgeous and sharp, way way better to use for browsing and emails etc, and the phone itself is barely bigger then my 4 or 3GS. Seems to have better glare resistance outside too vs my iPhones.

A guy I work with has a new custom ROM on his phone every week. Then he shows me a screen shot of his benchmark test. Pretty much all he does with his phone. I would say he has a new custom ROM 3 to 5 times a month. Spends most of his downtime on xda developers site to customize his phone. I have an Android, and it sucks. Too much work in trying to do something. The iPhone just works, everything is there in an easy to find app store, then the apps are easy to find and launch and they just work great. Yeah there isn't much you can do with the UI, but it's works way better than an Android device.

Exactly where is it "better" since I actually still have two iPhones, I don't see where the "better" comes in? I never would have bought an Android device before now, but they've made huge strides with the OS blending better with different phones hardware. My SGII is not only blazing fast, but it's as smooth as butter scrolling and using it just as smooth as my 4 and the 4S I've used. And even with live wallpaper and some widgets running etc, it's battery life last as long as my 4 which is insanely impressive considering the 4 was about the best phone around for battery life and here I am running a much more powerful device with more processes etc running and still getting basically same life. ** this is compared to pre iOS 5 as now both iPhones suck for battery life with iOS 5 even after numerous reset's and restores and turning anything off that would cause drain. Nevermind that both of them still have no WiFi since iOS 5 launch which is a massive issue that Apple finally acknowledged is occurring to many users. And it's def not the phones as downgrading to previous OS 3 and 4 on the 3GS WiFi works perfect.

I mean you press phone and make a call, you swipe to see different home pages or pinch to zoom out and go to exactly which page you want (vs swiping page after page after page over on the iPhone), I click an app and it opens fast, I'm using Dolphin browser and like it better then Safari (though the stock browser now is very good vs before), actually it's just more efficient to use.. it's awesome being able to go to contacts and swipe right to make a call or left to text on a name or also contact by email etc.

The only thing I liked better on the iPhone was the keyboard was better then the stock one on my SGII but that doesn't matter as 10 seconds in the market and I installed swype which is better.

Like I said if you even asked me a year ago if I would get an Droid device, pry would have said no. But I'm really impressed with the SGII (AT&T version is smaller then the others).

 

[ericrwalker]

Again, I have a Droid Pro now and I also work with the Droid X and Droid X2. I work with the IT section of my company. For the last couple of years I told many people that Android would be a good alternative to iOS until I actually used it. The OS is a mess, and not easy to use. Even less fun when people call up with issues and trying to explain to them out to fix them.

Bottom line, it's not the phone. It's the operating system that suck. If you can put iOS on your nexus, I am sure it would be a great device.

If you use Android and you like it fine....Have you tried iOS?

If you like iOS and have tried Android, do you like it? If so, fine. Not everyone has the same taste.

I like my OS clean and easy to operate, and functional. That's why I prefer iOS.

You've still not said anything. I never made mention one time about specs.......my question still stands. You never stated which "android" phone you have. Also, you still never stated exactly what's done so much better on the iPhone that can't be done on the Galaxy Nexus. Sounds like you have no experience with the Galaxy Nexus and are speaking from a position of ignorance. Furthermore, it sounds like your experience with Android is quite limited too, for you to be making broad brush statements. I'll await your answer to my questions.

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If you used both operating systems, and you like Android then stick with it. like I said, I don't like Android OS, but I am a huge fan of google products. I use a gmail address/calendar, google voice, etc and even host another email domain with google apps. I am by no means against google. Just their OS, I also can't stand my logitech revue with Android OS and love my Apple TV 2.

Uhhh one of my iPhones is fully customized to the hilt (jb'd), and I used it. My SGII stock can do a ton more to setup exactly how I want it w/o a new rom (though going to flash UnNamed), and I use it. Majority of my employees have Droid phones and use for personal and business, I just finally went droid with my SGII. No problem integrating with anything, actually I like it much better for biz/personal use and none of iOS 5's advantages like iCloud etc mean anything since you could do all that on Android beforehand. And so much easier and more efficient to use then to deal with annoying iTunes, if I want a file or certain things moved back and forth, or quickly put a song on etc, just mount the phone, drag whatever you want to it or from it and that's it... no having to deal with iTunes.

And I have to say the 4.3" screen is gorgeous and sharp, way way better to use for browsing and emails etc, and the phone itself is barely bigger then my 4 or 3GS. Seems to have better glare resistance outside too vs my iPhones.


Exactly where is it "better" since I actually still have two iPhones, I don't see where the "better" comes in? I never would have bought an Android device before now, but they've made huge strides with the OS blending better with different phones hardware. My SGII is not only blazing fast, but it's as smooth as butter scrolling and using it just as smooth as my 4 and the 4S I've used. And even with live wallpaper and some widgets running etc, it's battery life last as long as my 4 which is insanely impressive considering the 4 was about the best phone around for battery life and here I am running a much more powerful device with more processes etc running and still getting basically same life. ** this is compared to pre iOS 5 as now both iPhones suck for battery life with iOS 5 even after numerous reset's and restores and turning anything off that would cause drain. Nevermind that both of them still have no WiFi since iOS 5 launch which is a massive issue that Apple finally acknowledged is occurring to many users. And it's def not the phones as downgrading to previous OS 3 and 4 on the 3GS WiFi works perfect.

I mean you press phone and make a call, you swipe to see different home pages or pinch to zoom out and go to exactly which page you want (vs swiping page after page after page over on the iPhone), I click an app and it opens fast, I'm using Dolphin browser and like it better then Safari (though the stock browser now is very good vs before), actually it's just more efficient to use.. it's awesome being able to go to contacts and swipe right to make a call or left to text on a name or also contact by email etc.

The only thing I liked better on the iPhone was the keyboard was better then the stock one on my SGII but that doesn't matter as 10 seconds in the market and I installed swype which is better.

Like I said if you even asked me a year ago if I would get an Droid device, pry would have said no. But I'm really impressed with the SGII (AT&T version is smaller then the others).

 

[SurferMan]

Again, I have a Droid Pro now and I also work with the Droid X and Droid X2. I work with the IT section of my company. For the last couple of years I told many people that Android would be a good alternative to iOS until I actually used it. The OS is a mess, and not easy to use. Even less fun when people call up with issues and trying to explain to them out to fix them.

Bottom line, it's not the phone. It's the operating system that suck. If you can put iOS on your nexus, I am sure it would be a great device.

If you use Android and you like it fine....Have you tried iOS?

If you like iOS and have tried Android, do you like it? If so, fine. Not everyone has the same taste.

I like my OS clean and easy to operate, and functional. That's why I prefer iOS.



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If you used both operating systems, and you like Android then stick with it. like I said, I don't like Android OS, but I am a huge fan of google products. I use a gmail address/calendar, google voice, etc and even host another email domain with google apps. I am by no means against google. Just their OS, I also can't stand my logitech revue with Android OS and love my Apple TV 2.

Well you just answer your question, Droid pro sucks it's a crappy phone, and don't care for the X or X2 as motorola handicaps the phones with their crap blur system ontop of android. So of course you'll hate Android, I'd hate the OS too if I was using those phones .

SGII is another league compared to those devices. Our OS is not a mess, it's every bit as smooth and fluid as iOS and Samsung's new touchwhiz interface is slick, very efficient to use and easily setup to exactly how you want it which is great for my business and having full google integration.

 

[mysterioustko]

Again, I have a Droid Pro now and I also work with the Droid X and Droid X2. I work with the IT section of my company. For the last couple of years I told many people that Android would be a good alternative to iOS until I actually used it. The OS is a mess, and not easy to use. Even less fun when people call up with issues and trying to explain to them out to fix them.

So then what I said is correct, you are speaking from a position of ignorance. Your whole stance is speculation based on your experiences with old phones that run an old version of the OS. Those are nothing even remotely close to a galaxy nexus. Also, YOU HAVE STILL YET TO ANSWER MY QUESTION......what is it that the iPhone can do so much better that a galaxy nexus cannot do? All I've heard you say thus far is "it just works", but have yet to say anything specific. And as for phones, you brought up old dated phones running dated software, and have yet to spefically address the galaxy nexus. But judging from the fact that it seems you have no experience at all with the galaxy nexus I don't think you can answer the question. It seems that your position isn't based on what's true, more so that it's based on what you want to be true. I'll continue waiting for you to answer my question....

 

[nefan65]

Again, I have a Droid Pro now and I also work with the Droid X and Droid X2. I work with the IT section of my company. For the last couple of years I told many people that Android would be a good alternative to iOS until I actually used it. The OS is a mess, and not easy to use. Even less fun when people call up with issues and trying to explain to them out to fix them.

Bottom line, it's not the phone. It's the operating system that suck. If you can put iOS on your nexus, I am sure it would be a great device.

If you use Android and you like it fine....Have you tried iOS?

If you like iOS and have tried Android, do you like it? If so, fine. Not everyone has the same taste.

I like my OS clean and easy to operate, and functional. That's why I prefer iOS.



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If you used both operating systems, and you like Android then stick with it. like I said, I don't like Android OS, but I am a huge fan of google products. I use a gmail address/calendar, google voice, etc and even host another email domain with google apps. I am by no means against google. Just their OS, I also can't stand my logitech revue with Android OS and love my Apple TV 2.

Can't agree more. Most of the executives at my company use iPhones. One of them got a new one [went from a 3Gs to the 4s]. Brought both to us to copy, etc. Took about 15 minutes. Backed up his old stuff, plugged in the new one, restored...done.

The CEO is a Sony lover. So he has the Arc. Just recently he got a new one, same design as the old one, just a faster processor. Wanted it to match the old one [apps, etc.]. 3 hours later, it's restored like the old one, and after having to buy some 3rd party app to backup/restore. Even then, "Some things" weren't quite right, so it was another 45 minutes of tinkering.

I'm sure Android is powerful, and a nice OS to use once you get it the way you want. But I guess I prefer reliability and consistency.

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Well you just answer your question, Droid pro sucks it's a crappy phone, and don't care for the X or X2 as motorola handicaps the phones with their crap blur system ontop of android. So of course you'll hate Android, I'd hate the OS too if I was using those phones .

SGII is another league compared to those devices. Our OS is not a mess, it's every bit as smooth and fluid as iOS and Samsung's new touchwhiz interface is slick, very efficient to use and easily setup to exactly how you want it which is great for my business and having full google integration.

I think that's his point though. The Pro-Android crowd touts the various options, and choices they have. Yet, when it's all boiled down, there's only a couple decent phones, and they're not available to all carriers/locations.

I've read similar responses on other forums. "I tried Android phone <<Insert Model Here>>, and didn't like it". Response? "Oh that one sucks, you should get the Android <<Insert Model Here>> instead, it's awesome!". ??? What?

 

[SurferMan]

I think that's his point though. The Pro-Android crowd touts the various options, and choices they have. Yet, when it's all boiled down, there's only a couple decent phones, and they're not available to all carriers/locations.

I've read similar responses on other forums. "I tried Android phone <<Insert Model Here>>, and didn't like it". Response? "Oh that one sucks, you should get the Android <<Insert Model Here>> instead, it's awesome!". ??? What?

Not really, what I meant was, there are plenty of good phones now, but a lot of people who used Android and had issues whenever they name the phone they used, it's generally an older phone alone with an outdated version of the OS and crappy interface (like motorolas blurr which sucks). I too would hate Android if I was stuck using those phones. Android is one thing, but it's the UI that makes the difference, they place Blur on top of it, which isn't even comparable to say Touchwhiz by Samsung which places that ontop of Android OS.

And remember Android is still growing, they've just now reached the point where the OS is integrating really well with phones hardware much better than before and becoming an easier and efficient OS to use then before, which is why I finally got one and not before and stuck to using my iphones. Just imagine where it'll be at in the next year or two, pretty impressive.

 

[nefan65]

Not really, what I meant was, there are plenty of good phones now, but a lot of people who used Android and had issues whenever they name the phone they used, it's generally an older phone alone with an outdated version of the OS and crappy interface (like motorolas blurr which sucks). I too would hate Android if I was stuck using those phones. Android is one thing, but it's the UI that makes the difference, they place Blur on top of it, which isn't even comparable to say Touchwhiz by Samsung which places that ontop of Android OS.

And remember Android is still growing, they've just now reached the point where the OS is integrating really well with phones hardware much better than before and becoming an easier and efficient OS to use then before, which is why I finally got one and not before and stuck to using my iphones. Just imagine where it'll be at in the next year or two, pretty impressive.

Ahh..ok..got it...thanks for the clarification.

I'll wait until ICS hits some more handsets, and I'll circle back and look. I'd look at the Nexus that just landed here in the States [Well..actually 12.15], but will wait until it's on something other than Verizon.

 

[ericrwalker]

I think you're missing my point.

Bottom line, iOS is simple and functional. It just works and you don't have to spend all kinds of time figuring out how to get something to work. I don't have to worry about buying an app with one iPhone then it not working with the next version because the developer made it on his version of the OS. Again, it's the clean interface on the iPhone with the app layout and no stupid widgets.

Those are the 3 Androids I use at work. I have also used my friend's galaxy s and his new HTC Evo. Doesn't matter, they have nicer screens than my Pro, but it's still the same crappy OS.

Well you just answer your question, Droid pro sucks it's a crappy phone, and don't care for the X or X2 as motorola handicaps the phones with their crap blur system ontop of android. So of course you'll hate Android, I'd hate the OS too if I was using those phones .

SGII is another league compared to those devices. Our OS is not a mess, it's every bit as smooth and fluid as iOS and Samsung's new touchwhiz interface is slick, very efficient to use and easily setup to exactly how you want it which is great for my business and having full google integration.

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Exactly my point, even if there are great phones (hardware) the OS is just fake hype with features. My buddy always brags about his widgets. What a waste of feature. The UI is all talk about features, if you have hours and hours to spend trying to get things the way want them, then fine. Get an Android, and enjoy your tinkering. I want a phone that if I want a function I just download the app and it's there and it works.

I think that's his point though. The Pro-Android crowd touts the various options, and choices they have. Yet, when it's all boiled down, there's only a couple decent phones, and they're not available to all carriers/locations.

I've read similar responses on other forums. "I tried Android phone <<Insert Model Here>>, and didn't like it". Response? "Oh that one sucks, you should get the Android <<Insert Model Here>> instead, it's awesome!". ??? What?

 

[sentinelsx]

And even with live wallpaper and some widgets running etc, it's battery life last as long as my 4 which is insanely impressive considering the 4 was about the best phone around for battery life and here I am running a much more powerful device with more processes etc running and still getting basically same life. ** this is compared to pre iOS 5 as now both iPhones suck for battery life with iOS 5 even after numerous reset's and restores and turning anything off that would cause drain.

I am honestly interested to see your actual usage/screen time from the SGS2.

Mine could never make it past 4 hours of intense use while i could literally do online game centre gaming for upto 6 hours easily on the iPhone 4. With some music to boot. That is the sole reason i went back to a 4.

Of course if you are talking standby, they are all the same. But i don't care about standby.

Plus the fact i am a real racing addict . And that will never be on android.

 

[kaizenmx]

Typical apple fanboy's logic:

"If it sells more, then it's better!"

This is just about retarded as much as xbox 360 fanboys saying Xbox360 is better because it sold more compared to PS3, when PS3 is basically a better hardware overall compared to that red ring of death garbage.

 

[SurferMan]

I think you're missing my point.

Bottom line, iOS is simple and functional. It just works and you don't have to spend all kinds of time figuring out how to get something to work. I don't have to worry about buying an app with one iPhone then it not working with the next version because the developer made it on his version of the OS. Again, it's the clean interface on the iPhone with the app layout and no stupid widgets.

Those are the 3 Androids I use at work. I have also used my friend's galaxy s and his new HTC Evo. Doesn't matter, they have nicer screens than my Pro, but it's still the same crappy OS.



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Exactly my point, even if there are great phones (hardware) the OS is just fake hype with features. My buddy always brags about his widgets. What a waste of feature. The UI is all talk about features, if you have hours and hours to spend trying to get things the way want them, then fine. Get an Android, and enjoy your tinkering. I want a phone that if I want a function I just download the app and it's there and it works.

Still don't get what you mean, the OS is not crappy, different carriers implement different interfaces in which some do suck so not sure if that's what you mean. I press phone on my SGII and it makes a call just like my iPhone, download an app and it downloads just like my iphone (and not limited by folder capacity or folders in a folder like apple implements), slide to text or press sms just like an iphone can text. Check emails just like you can check emails on an iPhone etc etc. Still not getting why so many people say "it just works". At least on the SGII there's an application folder with everything in which from there you can place exactly where you want it and how, takes minutes not hours and hours of setup and tweaking.

And a lot of widgets are very useful, for example I have a widget that controls all settings from brightness/auto, to networks, to GPS, BT, Syncing, and settings of the phone. Apple has nothing even close to that, you have to go through different menu's and settings to do what I can do in 1 click. The only way to get something like that is to jailbreak and install SBSettings.

I've had iPhones for years, now previously I didn't care for android especially the Motorola handicapped phones, but that went out the window with these new phone and the new OS's. I get what your trying to say, but I can tell you the OS on my phone is just as smooth and fluid as iOS 5.

The only reason I tinker with it is b/c I like playing with the phone and setting up and customizing it. Just like I did with my iPhone to get rid of apple's dumb restrictions like their stupid folder system, or not integrating settings like SBS, or just modifying iOS so it's not so borring (I'll put up pics and vids in another thread to show how I have that phone setup).

Actually the funny thing is I have an awesome custom lockscreen weather widget on the iPhone that's animated and accurate and just looks cool. I can't find anything like it for my SGII... wish i could fig out how to port it hahaha.

I am honestly interested to see your actual usage/screen time from the SGS2.

Mine could never make it past 4 hours of intense use while i could literally do online game centre gaming for upto 6 hours easily on the iPhone 4. With some music to boot. That is the sole reason i went back to a 4.

Of course if you are talking standby, they are all the same. But i don't care about standby.

Plus the fact i am a real racing addict . And that will never be on android.

It can vary every day, but the past few weeks I've had it, I've not noticed any worse battery life. Now I have settings adjusted (ie. brightness and using screen adjuster) to where I like it (you don't need the phone bright as the screen even pops like crazy on low settings). Basically I do everything that I did on my iPhones, which can be browsing for maybe 2 hours or so through out the day, tons of calls and sms, and streaming pandora in the car and have plenty of battery life even using GPS sometimes. Both are way better then my 3GS though. This is compared to pre iOS 5 though, where both phones now have bad battery life even after restoring a bunch of times and playing with settings (I have everything turned off that would cause drain like weather, locations, gps etc) and their battery life is worse then pre iOS 5.

iPhone 4 has better standby time definitely but that doesn't mean anything to me since my phones don't go more then a day w/o charging. I have noticed a little worse battery life when gaming vs the 4 which is pry to do with the larger 4.3" screen, but nothing detrimental. I don't play games for hours on the phones anyway so no problem there.

That's what mainly help me back before was battery life, I had friends before that either carried an extra battery or had to charge twice a day like an friends HTC Evo where my iPhones could go the full day. This SGII has impressive life especially for how powerful it is and what you can do with it. The i777 (at&t) has the Exynos chip where as other versions like the Rocket and T-mobiles SGII have the Snapdragon, i777 is the only one with the smaller 4.3" screen... I've heard the Exynos is more efficient, and with the smaller screen maybe that's why I'm getting about the same "usage" life against my iPhone 4.

edit - oh yeh I did forget to mention the iPhones do charge faster when plugged into a wall, and noticeably faster when just usb'd to a computer.

 

[sk1wbw]

Saying lack of functionality is an advantage is just absurd (btw you sound like *LTD*)

A customized keyboard is better functionality when they both have the same letters on the keys?

You guys are killing with the "customization is better functionality" thing when what your customizing has the same functionality as what is not customized.

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Typical apple fanboy's logic:

"If it sells more, then it's better!"

This is just about retarded as much as xbox 360 fanboys saying Xbox360 is better because it sold more compared to PS3, when PS3 is basically a better hardware overall compared to that red ring of death garbage.

Typical Android fanboy's response: Android is open and iOS is closed. Therefore Android is better.

 

[Vegastouch]

A customized keyboard is better functionality when they both have the same letters on the keys?

You guys are killing with the "customization is better functionality" thing when what your customizing has the same functionality as what is not customized.

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Completely false and an obvious response having no clue what your talking about

 

[sk1wbw]

Completely false and an obvious response having no clue what your talking about

You don't even know my name or how long I've been using cell phones. Remember the original StarTac? Yeah, for a few years before that came out. So I know what I'm talking about. Customization doesn't mean ****.

 

[Neon01]

I honestly don't know why the android fans here are bothering. It's pretty clear that the people here who don't like Android either, a. have given Android as much chance as they care to (right or wrong) and aren't convinced, or b. just flat out like iOS better.

It'd be one thing if they came here saying "I don't like Android because it can't do X, or it doesn't support Y". In that case, if you had new information for them that would remove some specific and concrete reason why they don't like Android, then I could see the point to a discussion like this. Otherwise, you're just gonna beat your head against the wall.

Make no mistake about my statement, I don't think there's anything wrong with people liking iOS and remaining completely intractable about continually trying new Android hardware. After all, they already use what they love, so I say leave them to it.

With regard to broad-brush statements that impugn Android's capability and user friendliness relative to iOS, those that continue to be truly open minded about all smartphone OSes will know them for what they are - false. Clearly all of the professional reviewers that have stated Android is now within a stone's throw of iOS can't be wrong, and that Android offers features not present in iOS has never been in debate.

I would also suggest a modicum of understanding for the fact that recent posts in support of Android have been frequent, and we are posting on a Apple forum. After all, if I actually were an Android zealot (I am not), I wouldn't take kindly to Apple fans visiting my Android-dedicated forum to extol and demand acknowledgement of the virtues of the latest iOS release.

 

[BaldiMac]

Saying lack of functionality is an advantage is just absurd

If ever there was a statement that explains why some people have to invent mystical powers (reality distortion field, mass brainwashing) in order for Apple's appeal to make sense in their world view, this is it.

 

[sk1wbw]

If ever there was a statement that explains why some people have to invent mystical powers (reality distortion field, mass brainwashing) in order for Apple's appeal to make sense in their world view, this is it.

Yeah, especially when both iOS and Android have on-screen keyboards that provide the same functionality.

 

[b24pgg]

Customizability is only part of the picture. At some point, if the OS becomes too customizable, it loses user-friendliness. Windows Mobile 6.5 was extremely customizable but it was still the shittiest OS ever.

On one hand, it's great that Android users are able to replace the stock messaging app with something like Handcent SMS, for example. It's much more customizable but still fairly user friendly.

On the other hand, people also say things like "you can do practically anything on Android with an app like Tasker." Well this may be true, but I'd rather not have to spend time learning how to write a complicated script to get a feature I want. This makes it less a feature of Android and more a feature I'm having to add myself.

I still think Android provides a better balance between customizability and user-friendliness than iOS does, although to its credit iOS of course leans towards the latter end of that spectrum.

 

[sk1wbw]

I honestly don't know why the android fans here are bothering. It's pretty clear that the people here who don't like Android either, a. have given Android as much chance as they care to (right or wrong) and aren't convinced, or b. just flat out like iOS better.

It'd be one thing if they came here saying "I don't like Android because it can't do X, or it doesn't support Y". In that case, if you had new information for them that would remove some specific and concrete reason why they don't like Android, then I could see the point to a discussion like this. Otherwise, you're just gonna beat your head against the wall.

Make no mistake about my statement, I don't think there's anything wrong with people liking iOS and remaining completely intractable about continually trying new Android hardware. After all, they already use what they love, so I say leave them to it.

With regard to broad-brush statements that impugn Android's capability and user friendliness relative to iOS, those that continue to be truly open minded about all smartphone OSes will know them for what they are - false. Clearly all of the professional reviewers that have stated Android is now within a stone's throw of iOS can't be wrong, and that Android offers features not present in iOS has never been in debate.

I would also suggest a modicum of understanding for the fact that recent posts in support of Android have been frequent, and we are posting on a Apple forum. After all, if I actually were an Android zealot (I am not), I wouldn't take kindly to Apple fans visiting my Android-dedicated forum to extol and demand acknowledgement of the virtues of the latest iOS release.

Some of us have actually used Android on phones and tablets and still hate it. So we aren't making fanboy statements. I've used Blackberry and WP7 and Windows Mobile and hated them too. I've used webOS and loved that, so some of us aren't strictly Apple lovers.

 

[sentinelsx]

It can vary every day, but the past few weeks I've had it, I've not noticed any worse battery life. Now I have settings adjusted (ie. brightness and using screen adjuster) to where I like it (you don't need the phone bright as the screen even pops like crazy on low settings). Basically I do everything that I did on my iPhones, which can be browsing for maybe 2 hours or so through out the day, tons of calls and sms, and streaming pandora in the car and have plenty of battery life even using GPS sometimes. Both are way better then my 3GS though. This is compared to pre iOS 5 though, where both phones now have bad battery life even after restoring a bunch of times and playing with settings (I have everything turned off that would cause drain like weather, locations, gps etc) and their battery life is worse then pre iOS 5.

iPhone 4 has better standby time definitely but that doesn't mean anything to me since my phones don't go more then a day w/o charging. I have noticed a little worse battery life when gaming vs the 4 which is pry to do with the larger 4.3" screen, but nothing detrimental.

Hmm. I don't think iPhone 4 has bad battery life after iOS5. I just got an iPhone 4 running 4.3.3 jailbroken yesterday and upgraded my mom's to iOS5 a month ago, and she hasn't reported bad battery life. Still charges every second day as usual after the phone shows in red at 20%. Same battery life.

I would still like to see the screen on time though, because i doubt it can beat the i4. i4S maybe, but i used i4 and SGS2 and it could never beat the i4 under my intense usage. Of course there is the 4.3 vs. 3.5 issue, but then to me an extra 2-3 hrs of battery is worth more than .8 inch of screen size. I got a tab 10.1 for big screen stuff in case i need that.

From my experience android tablets have no issue matching ipads in battery life but i have yet to see an android phone go on for 6 hrs+ like my trusty i4. The gtab 10.1 can easily go without a charge even if i watch movies on it for a day or two like my friend's ipad, but when i had the GS2 it would start giving me "sorry cannot play video because under 15%" after 4pm, which was a shock to me. When i didn't use it at as much, it would last well past the next day. But then it is kinda pointless to own those specs if they are wasted in standby.

I hope the quad cores and new batteries fix the battery, else i am happy with the i4 until someone realizes good battery life is as necessary as any thing else.

I will probably post my usage of the i4 after i use it after a full charge, but my previous would last well from 8 am to next day noon even with 2-3 hrs of youtube, some calls, half an hour of some modern combat and couple hours of music. Especially amusing was the fact i would leave it at 15% over night and morning it would still be at 14% and drop a little as i used it. The phone deserved its title as a battery sipping efficient machine.

I don't know what Apple did with the 4S, but i hope they get their act right. Luckily the 4 isn't crippled with iOS5 so all is well.

 

[nizmoz]

I completely agree on this. We have a mixture of Windows, Android, IOS phones. Around 80 employee's with phones. And the MOST reliable phones are the iphones. No one has issues with any iphone while almost all the Android phones have weird issues from Calendar stops syncing (requiring it to be reconnected to Exchange), losing the setup, battery issues, you name it. Now we have made a major change that we are now requiring all staff that have phones to get iphones with the 3 providers. And if they are with T-Mobile we are requesting them to move.

The phones last longer too. We can get 3-4 years out of the iphones vs 2 or less with Androids since they are built better.

Again, I have a Droid Pro now and I also work with the Droid X and Droid X2. I work with the IT section of my company. For the last couple of years I told many people that Android would be a good alternative to iOS until I actually used it. The OS is a mess, and not easy to use. Even less fun when people call up with issues and trying to explain to them out to fix them.

Bottom line, it's not the phone. It's the operating system that suck. If you can put iOS on your nexus, I am sure it would be a great device.

If you use Android and you like it fine....Have you tried iOS?

If you like iOS and have tried Android, do you like it? If so, fine. Not everyone has the same taste.

I like my OS clean and easy to operate, and functional. That's why I prefer iOS.



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If you used both operating systems, and you like Android then stick with it. like I said, I don't like Android OS, but I am a huge fan of google products. I use a gmail address/calendar, google voice, etc and even host another email domain with google apps. I am by no means against google. Just their OS, I also can't stand my logitech revue with Android OS and love my Apple TV 2.

 

[ericrwalker]

This thread has inspired me to figure out a way to forward my text/calls from my work phone to my google voice. I figured out how to do the calls, and started a thread about the text messages.

The only reason I still carry my Android in my pocket is because I often need a hotspot when I am traveling for work, and I am not paying for it with my iPhone and I do get some text from my some co-workers.

I completely agree on this. We have a mixture of Windows, Android, IOS phones. Around 80 employee's with phones. And the MOST reliable phones are the iphones. No one has issues with any iphone while almost all the Android phones have weird issues from Calendar stops syncing (requiring it to be reconnected to Exchange), losing the setup, battery issues, you name it. Now we have made a major change that we are now requiring all staff that have phones to get iphones with the 3 providers. And if they are with T-Mobile we are requesting them to move.

The phones last longer too. We can get 3-4 years out of the iphones vs 2 or less with Androids since they are built better.

 

[fertilized-egg]

SGII is another league compared to those devices. Our OS is not a mess, it's every bit as smooth and fluid as iOS and Samsung's new touchwhiz interface is slick,

Urg. I was comparing the Nexus vs SGII just today and was reminded how horrendous TouchWiz is again. It looks like a colour blind person boosted saturation of iOS and put it on Android. Plus in actual use I didn't find it every bit as smooth and fluid as iPhone 4S. Install and open up multiple apps and the old Android stutter begins..although it's much better than older Android phones.

I am honestly interested to see your actual usage/screen time from the SGS2.

Mine could never make it past 4 hours of intense use while i could literally do online game centre gaming for upto 6 hours easily on the iPhone 4.

One of biggest gripes I have with SGS phones is the weak battery life when you use it intensely. They actually last pretty long in standby and things like WiFi hotspot because they have a very large battery (~20-30% bigger than iPhone depending on the model, people often forget that large screen also means more space for bigger battery)

However the famed AMOLED burns through the battery when you use it a lot because display white on AMOLED is battery intensive. And there isn't much you can do about it. With JuiceDefender, etc and different ROMs, you can manage background processes and other battery-sapping stuff, but with the screen, it just uses up a ton of power when you view anything white.

And here's the Anandtech benchmark, you can see despite its large battery, the SGS2 and other Samsung phones generally lag in browser battery testing, even compared to other Android phones.

 

[mi3x]

I've been an Android user since Donut, then Froyo on my Desire, then in May got the S2 with Gingerbread, I was a sworn Android fan, used to spend hours installing, testing apps and roms, as a matter of fact, I did a reasearch for profiles in an app a week in a row (Tasker), and I loved it. I became a real geek digging and F5ing lots of threads on xda.

Then I lost my S2 in August, and then again the 2nd one this month. I said I WOULD not buy it again, just because... it was bad luck. So I bought an iphone 4, even though I hated everyone with iOS before. I was simply charmed with its simplicity, the awesome notification system, it just did its job. Then I bought the 4s and I WOULD never go back to android.

It's ok to say that android evolved very very much since its beginnings in Cupcake era, but after a few years on android, TODAY, I do prefer iOS and the iPhone. It's simply special.

 

[mysterioustko]

I think you're missing my point.

Bottom line, iOS is simple and functional. It just works and you don't have to spend all kinds of time figuring out how to get something to work. I don't have to worry about buying an app with one iPhone then it not working with the next version because the developer made it on his version of the OS. Again, it's the clean interface on the iPhone with the app layout and no stupid widgets.

Those are the 3 Androids I use at work. I have also used my friend's galaxy s and his new HTC Evo. Doesn't matter, they have nicer screens than my Pro, but it's still the same crappy OS.



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Exactly my point, even if there are great phones (hardware) the OS is just fake hype with features. My buddy always brags about his widgets. What a waste of feature. The UI is all talk about features, if you have hours and hours to spend trying to get things the way want them, then fine. Get an Android, and enjoy your tinkering. I want a phone that if I want a function I just download the app and it's there and it works.

You've still yet to answer my question. You've danced around it and completely avoided it. Bottom line is you're speaking from a position of ignorance. You really have no idea what you're talking about because your experience with the platform is extremely limited and as far as the Galaxy Nexus is concerned, you have no experience at all. That being said, you don't even know if what you're saying is true. You're just hoping it is. In my earlier comment you responded immediately by talking about hardware yet I never made mention of hardware. You use the typical fanboy responses but you've yet to come with anything specific. You just keep making broad catch phrase statements like "it just works". Yet you still haven't spefically stated what the iphones does so much better than the Galaxy Nexus...though I know you can't say for certain because....YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. You're merely regurgitating something you heard from someone else.