Well said!....Samsung didn't come out with a bigger touch screen phone until late 2008, well after the original iPhone. In all reality, we can thank all the phone makers, for their innovation and evolution of our cell phones. This is competition at its finest...every company trying to one up each other....Love it!
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Well said!....Samsung didn't come out with a bigger touch screen phone until late 2008, well after the original iPhone. In all reality, we can thank all the phone makers, for their innovation and evolution of our cell phones. This is competition at its finest...every company trying to one up each other....Love it!
Agreed. However, the original post did not "have it backwards", the person I quoted simply went one step further backwards. The iPhone may have popularized the modern day version of the smartphone, and as a result, other companies began to make smartphones themselves, but at bigger sizes than the iPhone. If Apple makes the screen bigger, then they are responding to what they think is popular demand--demand that was created by those Android phones.
Question is, how far should we go back? The creator of touch screens? GSM technology? Mobile phones?
I agreed with most of your post up until here. I laugh at anyone who uses such pure Apple marketing jargon with a straight face. My response every time to anyone who says the iPhone just works is: "Damn You iPhone Auto Correct".
I'll have to look through your post history so I can see if you ever used the term "Retina display" so I can laugh at you as well for using "such pure Apple marketing jargon"
Wow, out of my entire post thats all you can refute? I'll change that line for you then. My iPhone just works for ME!
Again, I'm not saying bad things about Samsung, Android, Google or any other company. I'm just saying that the OP started by linking to a review and stating that he/she wants the Samsung Galaxy S3. That is ok in my opinion, even on an apple fan site. When he/she later went on to infer that the iPhone is only good because it uses Samsung parts, and that Samsung is the greatest company since sliced bread, thats where the line got crossed and we are in trollsville.
Nah. Apple may have came out with the 3.5 inch smartphone and be the first to do it... five years ago... but they haven't increased the size of their screen since the first iPhone. We can thank Apple for the 3.5/3.7" phones, but not for the 4"+
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"More open" is probably more appropriate
However, Google don't try to stifle the third party ROM development community. They're not continually trying to stop rooters. In fact, a lot of Android phone manufacturers provide phones with unlocked bootloaders so that it's easier to root and install custom ROMs.
I said I agreed with most of your post prior to that line. There's nothing to refute if I agree. Having said that, my post came across more condescending than I intended it to be, so apologies.
EDIT: To further explain... I'm a fan of the iPhone, and I'm really eager to see what the next gen iPhone brings, and more importantly, what iOS 6 brings. As a fan, I dislike when users claim iPhone is "perfect" or "it just works" when so many things aren't perfect with it and so many things don't work (I'm not necessarily saying that's what you do. I'm speaking general of this forum). The best way for the iPhone and iOS to improve is if people speak honestly about it. Saying "it just works" isn't intellectually honest and does disservice to fellow fans and Apple products.
But again, my apologies still for coming across so strong.
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I'll have to look through your post history so I can see if you ever used the term "Retina display" so I can laugh at you as well for using "such pure Apple marketing jargon"
Fair game. I'd actually be quite curious if I ever used "retina display" to mean something it's not in the past. Laugh away if so.
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Nope. I had a perfectly capable device in the Epic 4G Touch and I definitely knew how to use it as it was not my first Android device.
That's great for your friend. iOS works better for me than Android. I'm not saying Android is bad, just saying it's not for me..
Nah. Apple may have came out with the 3.5 inch smartphone and be the first to do it... five years ago... but they haven't increased the size of their screen since the first iPhone. We can thank Apple for the 3.5/3.7" phones, but not for the 4"+
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"More open" is probably more appropriate
However, Google don't try to stifle the third party ROM development community. They're not continually trying to stop rooters. In fact, a lot of Android phone manufacturers provide phones with unlocked bootloaders so that it's easier to root and install custom ROMs.
That's not what OPEN means, though. Many phones are shipping with locked bootloaders, many are not.
How is that not what open means? I can install custom software on my device without the powers that be trying to stop me.
OPEN means you can download, modify, and freely redistribute Android. Just because you can put software on a rooted phone, doesn't mean that ANDROID is open, just your phone is rooted.
Debatable. I think both meanings make as much sense as each other. I'm open to do what I want with the software, just as people are open to do what they want with the source.
That's a very, very inaccurate way to compare the two.
How about the fact that there are probably a hundred or more different Android phones out there but only one iPhone. I bet your chart doesn't take that into consideration.
Linux is OPEN, Windows is not. That's my point. The fact that you can install both on a computer doesn't mean the computer is OPEN. The fact that you can download the Linux kernel, modify, and freely redistribute it means that Linux is OPEN. Try doing that with Windows.
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Nah. Apple may have came out with the 3.5 inch smartphone and be the first to do it... five years ago... but they haven't increased the size of their screen since the first iPhone. We can thank Apple for the 3.5/3.7" phones, but not for the 4"+
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"More open" is probably more appropriate
However, Google don't try to stifle the third party ROM development community. They're not continually trying to stop rooters. In fact, a lot of Android phone manufacturers provide phones with unlocked bootloaders so that it's easier to root and install custom ROMs.
Rennir...the realm of the smart phone was started by RIM via the blackberry...so all the props should go to them...lol...i guess we can go on and on with this...lol
matttye....the evolution of a bigger screen is inevitable, every phone mfg'r goes along in steps....and as the saying goes "bigger is better" so i'm sure it has been on the horizon, but why keep going bigger when people will still fork out the money to get the same size screen....thus not having to incur more costs in remanufacturing a new line (basic 101 business model). Samsung is pushing out 20 (exaggeration) different phones all the time so bumping up the screen size every year is feasible to keep the ball rolling and keeping the customer base...
But really, where is the size gonna stop? Are we gonna get to the size of the brick cell phones again, but just thinner? I'm pro apple and samsung, it really doesn't matter. my GF has a myTouch (htc) and i want to upgrade her and was thinking of the S III.....but we are gonna wait a bit and save the money.....
I'm sick of the monstrosities coming from the animosity between Apple and Android manufacturers. I just want a true open source phone to come out and we'll have an actual useful phone that will do anything the open source community dreams of without the detriment of Google's Java VM on the Linux Kernel.
Tizen here I come, unless you suck too.
Tizen here I come, unless you suck too.
I've had annoyances with auto correct on iOS & Android. Even on differ desktop browsers from Windows, Linux and OSX. Auto Correct in general works for me a good 75% of the time, it's just people have their differences of the best way to implement it.
As far as the "iPhone just works" slogan. For most users it just does. Not saying they aren't hiccups here and there, but everyday functions are smooth as butter.
Also not saying Android isn't capable, but many Android phones are garbage. The "it just works" phrase refers to the iPhone & iOS together. It's hard to find a phone that Android fits so well with. Just my opinion.
Please show me where I said that "...the iPhone is only good because it uses Samsung parts, and that Samsung is the greatest company since sliced bread..." Your hate for Samsung is clear, but please don't let it interfere your ability to comprehend my post. Nowhere did I say such a thing. Buy what you like and enjoy. How sad.
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Exactly. The same way it's unfair to compare the iPhone sales to any other single Android phone. If you want and iOS phone, there's only one choice, iPhone. But if you want and Android, you can choose from wide selection of phones. Can you imagine what the Galaxy S line of phones would sell like if they were the only Android phone? So let's see, what do you think the iPhone numbers would look like, if phones like the GS3 and HTC One X, along with a number of other phones were able to run iOS? So the fact that the Galaxy S line of phones sells so high in an ocean of other Android choices says a lot about the phone. That being said, iOS market share would also increase by the same margin.
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It's not plastic though...
I can easily resist the staleness and restricted iPhone. Needs a bigger screen (width AND height) too.
The shocking thing about this graph is that Windows Phone is considered such a turd in the marketplace, yet it garners 1/3 of the sales of iOS devices. Yet, if we look again at the graph, iOS garners 1/3 of Android sales...
C-mon...im not buying that one at all. I like the One X and One S for that matter but HTC phones are not built any better and with the GS3 being polycarbonate...thats a good thing.
I believe this graph tells a better story than pure sales numbers. Android may be on more handsets but if I was a shareholder, I'd rather be in Apple's shoes.
But to speak to the OP's point--I hope the SGIII is every bit as good as it's being made out to be as strong competition is good for all of us. I have no plans on getting it, regardless of how good it is as I'm very happy with how the iPhone 'just works' in our household's Apple ecosystem but I'm not foolish or naive enough to claim it's crap or not as good as the iPhone--the improvements over the 4s just don't outweigh what I'd be giving up. Too each their own.
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I think it says more about marketing and the people buying them than anything else.
But one of the reasons Android survived in the first place was the huge amount of choice and lower priced choices, which is a good thing. If it was only one Android device, it would have failed for a whole list of reasons. It took awhile before Android phones and OS could even be matched against the iPhone/iOS. IMO the GS2 was the first REAL contender although some might say the Droid.
Also if other phones like the GS3 and HTC One were able to run iOS, people would expect Apple like service when something goes wrong, like no hassle replacements, Apple care, etc: Plus Apple would still not allow openness, carriers can't change/add stuff, etc:
As good specs these premium Samsung and HTC phones have, many people just do not want iOS for a list of reasons. So these phones will not sell as well as you think with iOS loaded into them. Also most who favor iOS would prefer it from an Apple product.
So if iOS suddenly became available on other phones I still don't see many switching from the iPhone and I would still expect the GS3 and HTC One to sell much more Android versions compared to iOS versions.