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Galaxy S7 to Feature Pressure-Sensitive Display Similar to 3D Touch
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The part that everyone is missing, is that they're not even close to being the same patents. They're about an order of magnitude different in implementation.
The Apple patent applications mentioned in this thread are about placing a few pressure sensors separately behind the display module, and triangulating a single force location.
The Samsung patent application mentioned in this thread is about embedded many sensors into the display itself, so that even multi-touch force sensing could be done.
Everyone's patents and methods are likely to be different, so it doesn't matter.
Why not? I think you came up with a great name
Btw, it's generally assumed that Apple licensed "Force Touch" from NextInput Inc, at least for Macs, and quite possibly for the iPhone as well. Anyone who wants to license that tech, can.
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I agree with those who think that if Android itself doesn't support it, then it won't be very helpful on a Samsung... unless Samsung comes up with clever behind the scenes automatic translation of say, long presses or menu options, to force presses. At the same time, I think most iOS users probably don't even know about the option. It's a UI input answer to a question that was never asked.
I personally don't see why people get carried away with the who-copied-who talk.
In many cases, once one party introduces a concept, it becomes so evident as a natural approach, others follow it. All companies do this, for better or worse.
So Samsung brings out 3d touch. The question is whether they developed their own methods of delivering it, in hardware and software, or whether they really did 'copy' apple, as in reverse engineered and iPhone to duplicate it.
In many cases, once one party introduces a concept, it becomes so evident as a natural approach, others follow it. All companies do this, for better or worse.
So Samsung brings out 3d touch. The question is whether they developed their own methods of delivering it, in hardware and software, or whether they really did 'copy' apple, as in reverse engineered and iPhone to duplicate it.
They're currently trying to appeal a fine for copying Apple so heavily, now they turn around and continue copying every single thing Apple does.
This is why the fine Samsung has to pay shouldn't have been reduced to $548m, because even the original barely would've had an effect on Samsung, so the new fine has even less of an effect.
The fine needs to be so high it literally stops Samsung dead in their tracks so they can't copy Apple anymore.
This is why the fine Samsung has to pay shouldn't have been reduced to $548m, because even the original barely would've had an effect on Samsung, so the new fine has even less of an effect.
The fine needs to be so high it literally stops Samsung dead in their tracks so they can't copy Apple anymore.
Perhaps you should read the title of the discussion again? Lol
Let's be objective.
Samsung was working on this tech before 3D Touch was officially announced. Samsung isn't copying Apple, Apple was, as usual, faster to the punch because of stronger integration across software and hardware.
Check out this article from 2014 where Android Authority picked up on the patent, from March 2014 no less, "Samsung snags patent for new pressure sensitive touchscreens"
So I may not get many thumbs ups or likes, but if I can get even one user on here who blindly agreed with the statement that Samsung is simply copying Apple to actually re-consider, I'd be happy.
Of course there's the possibility of corporate espionage, and well, yeah sure, that's possible.
(EDIT: I initially wrote Android Police, I meant Android Authority)
The comments in the Android Authority article point out Apple's patent (filed in Jan 2014), but as mentioned by another user here, the approach to making this user-facing similar tech is different.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...sensitive-iphone-touchscreen-in-patent-filing
Samsung was working on this tech before 3D Touch was officially announced. Samsung isn't copying Apple, Apple was, as usual, faster to the punch because of stronger integration across software and hardware.
Check out this article from 2014 where Android Authority picked up on the patent, from March 2014 no less, "Samsung snags patent for new pressure sensitive touchscreens"
So I may not get many thumbs ups or likes, but if I can get even one user on here who blindly agreed with the statement that Samsung is simply copying Apple to actually re-consider, I'd be happy.
Of course there's the possibility of corporate espionage, and well, yeah sure, that's possible.
(EDIT: I initially wrote Android Police, I meant Android Authority)
The comments in the Android Authority article point out Apple's patent (filed in Jan 2014), but as mentioned by another user here, the approach to making this user-facing similar tech is different.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...sensitive-iphone-touchscreen-in-patent-filing
Except that in the comments in that same article, someone posted this:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...sensitive-iphone-touchscreen-in-patent-filing
Which dates to two months earlier. Looking forward to seeing you return to this thread to say you were wrong. Except you won't.
Edit: lol I see that link has already been posted like 6 times already.
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Only Apple fanbois would say this.
To everyone else, it's Ctrl C + Ctrl V.
*Looks at URL above*
So yeah, you have a problem with that?
You realize you can't post this AND an anti-Apple tirade in the same post, right?
It had everything to do with the PS3. People hear 360 and think 3rd generation, comparable to the 3rd generation PlayStation. What else could 360 mean, a complete rotation, back where you started. It should have been called the 180, a new direction.
And if you agree it is because of marketing, who where they marketing against.
Bleh, why put such a useless feature on their phones? I honestly got sick of it on my 6s+, every time I wanted to long press I'd end up 3d touching, and vice versa. Only Apple could take long press and remarket it into 3d touch and have people lining up for it. I'd love to have it removed from my 6s+ and wouldn't miss a single day without it.
Unfortunately too many stupid people exist in the world who somehow believe the electronic technology they buy needs personal defending from them, and the companies that exist to pull money out of their wallet needs defending as well.
Well, on the Macbook Pro it's been out for 9 months now. I never use "Force Touch" (although I like the new touchpad for conventional use).
I wonder how Samsung's flagship phones have been selling lately. I haven't heard much of anything (good or bad) about Samsung phones for quite a while. Not much has been written on tech blogs... or said on podcasts... etc.
It's like people forgot about them.
The only thing this shows is that "3D Touch" or whatever is a good idea and useful for everyday use. I find some of their hardware and GUI ripoffs of the past to be shameless and repugnant, but this is just a concept someone else got right first.
I love how Apple figured out how to make thin mobile devices ... like all their component suppliers had nothing to do with it. So much R&D money spent on making a shopping list of semiconductor parts? lol
It's slightly harder than that. I mean, ideas are a dime a dozen, it's the execution that counts, as Apple proves time after time.
Well maybe they do it better. Ok it´s unlikely they will, but since ForceTouch so far is nothing but annoying crap, there is a chance at least.