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Galaxy S7's 'Best Smartphone Display' Makes Strong Case for Apple to Shift to OLED iPhones

DUCKofD3ATH said:
Try reading more closely. The second article is from 2014.

Since you can't be bothered to pay attention, I can't be bothered to waste more time on you.
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Well the article is approaching 2 years old. It also says nothing about Apple's research into the technology and why they haven't adopted it sooner. Additionally, here's the nugget of info I found interesting in your link "It would be a great technological accomplishment if OLEDs reached the same levels as LEDs. In general, commercial LED products have 20 to 25 year lifetime, while OLED only five to ten years."

So yes... a significantly shorter lifespan. But how many people do you know that are rocking 5-10 year old smartphone? I am sure some. But certainly not the numbers that would warrant concern for switching to OLED.
 
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samcraig said:
But how many people do you know that are rocking 5-10 year old smartphone? I am sure some. But certainly not the numbers that would warrant concern for switching to OLED.
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That is very true. Especially on devices where Software hardly gets updated beyond 1-2 years. On current state of affairs of Android that is unfortunately a rather high security risk. Lack of the updates is biggest drawbacks of Android - and limits the lifespan of a device somewhat anyway. Personally I don't think it will change anytime soon.

That was one of the reasons why I changed back from Android back to iOS, despite really liking the (media) software on my Sony (which itself was a vast improvement over my previous Samsung and LG). But I just didn't (and still don't) agree with the way how slowly Android gets updated on a system/version level - or even *IF* it gets updated at all.
 
Burger Thing said:
That is very true. Especially on devices where Software hardly gets updated beyond 1-2 years. On current state of affairs of Android that is unfortunately a rather high security risk. Lack of the updates is biggest drawbacks of Android - and limits the lifespan of a device somewhat anyway. Personally I don't think it will change anytime soon.

That was one of the reasons why I changed back from Android back to iOS, despite really liking the (media) software on my Sony (which itself was a vast improvement over my previous Samsung and LG). But I just didn't (and still don't) agree with the way how slowly Android gets updated on a system/version level - or even *IF* it gets updated at all.
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I don't have the same experience. And I really don't think your comments relate to the actual subject. There's nothing wrong with your comments - valid unto yourself and others. But I would say iOS users and Android users alike (most) aren't keeping their phones long enough where a 5-10 screen life causes an issue.
 
Kabeyun said:
Why are you storing 4K video on a handset? Four times the pixel count of an HD television on a screen the size of an ice cream sandwich? Any reason you don't dump your videos to a computer at the end of the day? Do you need to shoot that much 4K video that you can't make it that far (personally, I'd rather shoot at 60fps than 4K, but your call)? If so, yeah, you might be that person who's bump into a storage ceiling.

Fair enough. But that doesn't mean that they're pushing inadequate tech. They've never been about spec matching (with the arguable exception of a bigger iPhone) and bully for them for it.

Thanks for clearing that up.

As I wrote in my post, my phone is half full. That means I need less than nothing more. Here's what I know first hand: on my phone I have 910 songs, 116 videos including 4 full length movies, 2168 photos, and 301 apps. Of 114 GB capacity I have 51.3 GB available. I think I'm in pretty good shape. I use iCloud to only sync some data, like 1Password and core services.

I guess there are over 100 million narrow-minded iPhone users who don't bemoan the lack of removable media. Since you're the arbiter of truth please share with us the percent of those people who feel crippled. But hey, we're "WRONG" so what do we know?

Supporting Apple is tantamount to being drugged? Well, at least you didn't get personal.

And since, in your accusational fog, you actually know nothing about me, let me share that I have a lot of gripes about Apple. Too many to bother listing here. Some nitpicking, some serious and fundamental. But complaints about not being an early adopter isn't one of them.

Wow, I went long. Have a nice day.
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Why am I storing 4k video on a handset? Ummm because I'm shooting 4k video with that handset. I did mention that I upload my videos when I get to a wifi network, but during the day I don't have wifi access so have to deal with the physical storage on my phone. And yes I do need to shoot that much 4k video, it's my daughter and she will only be a kid once. Keep in mind you can also take and store RAW format pictures as well, those take up a ton of space. That's in addition to having a couple of games installed, maybe a movie or 2, and also having my conference/seminar files loaded up which also take a lot of memory and would kill my data plan if I streamed them. This is just another example of not having the choice, and it's always amusing to see people defend a lack of functionality as a good thing.

Inadequate technology is in the eye of the beholder, and in this case no matter how inadequate Apple tech is consumers line up to buy it. Once again what may be inadequate to me, is not to others and I'm mainly referencing their technology in regards to this thread and the display. OLED has many advantages and is technologically superior. BUt I disagree, Apple IS about spec matching, they just do it in a genius way that covers up what they are really saying. 64bit, retina display, etc these marketing terms are nonsense yet they use them to match themselves up against other phones.

Once again I'm not arguing that Apple doesn't sell a crapload of phones, they do. What they are doing is clearly working for them and a business should always maximize their profits.
 
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SirCheese said:
Unfortunately, that's how a lot of the hardcore fanboys are and even if you give them facts to refute it, they dismiss it in some way. Sad really.
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Also true of hardcore anti-Apple people. Sorry but extremism is extremism. Cuts both ways.

These are also people who for some reason continue to show up in an Apple forum and talk about how brainwashed and misled and stupid they think everyone is. Weird. I don't see this behavior on car forums, appliance forums, anywhere else. Is there something subliminal on an Android screen that makes people be rude? Maybe that's what the extra pixels are for.

My largely (but certainly not exclusively) Apple ecosystem is easy, seamlessly interconnected, and works great for me. And that's not an opinion. It just does, and no Android device is going to lure me away from it because of higher screen pixel density or whatever else. If people want to jump back and forth when the next better spec comes out, be my guest.
 
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maxsix said:
Now that Samsung is clearly the leader in Smartphone Innovation, this will make it easier for Apple. Following Samsung's lead Apple will have a chance to copy what works and avoid what doesn’t. Apple won't be under pressure to be first.

Besides iPhones sell no matter what, therefore Apple will be in a great position if they choose to coast while profit taking like they did a few years ago, rather than increase display size. When Apple holds back and make customers wait, they prove how good their grip is on their user base.
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Looking at the beauty that is the S7 it reminds me of how Apple used to be back in it's good old days.No doubt they are the current leaders in smartphone innovation though
 
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JayIsAwesome said:
LOL Sammy's 2016 flagship does make the iPhone look dated as hell lol
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I know, but the 7 will do this with the edge. They just have to slim bezels and chins and add a higher dpi/res and contrast display.
Shouldn't be too difficult...
 
Kabeyun said:
Also true of hardcore anti-Apple people. Sorry but extremism is extremism. Cuts both ways.

These are also people who for some reason continue to show up in an Apple forum and talk about how brainwashed and misled and stupid they think everyone is. Weird. I don't see this behavior on car forums, appliance forums, anywhere else. Is there something subliminal on an Android screen that makes people be rude? Maybe that's what the extra pixels are for.

My largely (but certainly not exclusively) Apple ecosystem is easy, seamlessly interconnected, and works great for me. And that's not an opinion. It just does, and no Android device is going to lure me away from it because of higher screen pixel density or whatever else. If people want to jump back and forth when the next better spec comes out, be my guest.
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It does cut both way, and it happens on ALL forums regardless of if you see it or not. Apple users are rude if not ruder at times, so is something on the Apple screen that makes them be rude? That's a pretty stupid question right? They are rude, that's all, no matter the brand.

As for the rest, especially the first part, that is your opinion. And good on you that you don't want to use Android. That's your choice.
 
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Apple leads the way in........almost completed doughnut shaped buildings. I guess their marketing people feel they can keep getting away with what they are doing.
 
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SirCheese said:
Apple users are rude if not ruder at times, so is something on the Apple screen that makes them be rude? That's a pretty stupid question right? They are rude, that's all, no matter the brand.
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This is an Apple site. You don't visit someone's house and insult their intelligence for picking out the wrong furniture. What do you expect?

Unless you're talking about Apple product users' conduct in Android forums, in which case I agree; rude is rude.
 
Kabeyun said:
This is an Apple site. You don't visit someone's house and insult their intelligence for picking out the wrong furniture. What do you expect?

Unless you're talking about Apple product users' conduct in Android forums, in which case I agree; rude is rude.
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Conversely - it's not polite to offend your guests either. We're all guests here though - we don't own this site. So the analogy is a little wonky.

Some people should learn (not pointing a finger at you) that everyone has a different use case and what's "better" is often subjective. And that no piece of hardware or software is perfect, infallible, etc.

But this is the internet.... so....
 
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Kabeyun said:
This is an Apple site. You don't visit someone's house and insult their intelligence for picking out the wrong furniture. What do you expect?

Unless you're talking about Apple product users' conduct in Android forums, in which case I agree; rude is rude.
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It's an Apple site, what is your point? Apple users do the same exact thing on Android sites. If it's something that isn't against the rules, ignore it and if it is, the mods will take care of it.
 
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DUCKofD3ATH said:
Let me help your practical experience:

Apple has reportedly been "consulting with display makers" about OLED technology to eliminate potential drawbacks, which currently range from shorter lifespans to higher manufacturing costs than LCD displays.​
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Let's be realistic here. The only drawback they're working on is manufacturing cost which won't equate to consumer savings, but more so increased margins for Apple. An older screen already has 60,000 hrs of life expectancy which is roughly 7 years before you notice any deterioration of drop in peak luminance. That's assuming your display is on 24 hrs a day everyday for those 7 years.
 
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x-evil-x said:
And why doesn't samsung have oled tv's out now? only lg and possibly panasonic making them. With sony having the best oled tech but not pushing out tv's to lower the oled price. I NEED A 70" OLED now damnit
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They did but they were too expensive with narrow margins. They released two and gave up.
 
guse21 said:
the second article is referring to OLED and LED not OLED and LCD
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Probably not worth the interaction. One might be able to argue (a little) that for iPads right now, Apple may not want to go OLED - but it would be a weak argument at best. For the iPhone though? Who keeps their iPhone more than 5-10 years? Some. But not enough to warrant NOT switching to OLED
 
Fanaticalism said:
You're just not accustomed to high contrast displays. Display superiority can be quantified through measurable differences which Samsung devices have been doing since the note 4.
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I'm also not used to having something look like crap after 2 years, never going to get used to it either I think....

That's still not fully solved in the case OLED, LG getting close;
yields when producing larger panels fall a lot that's another reason for Apple not using them (they'd have to produce 230M a year the first year and 300M after that, that's a hell of a lot more than Samsung is doing now).

Samsung doesn't even have the best tech for OLED durabilibity, LG does, so their phones certainly haven't solved that issue.
 
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