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AND so are the Iphones (and other LCD Phones) which do not exhibit this behavior. Of course we can debate whether OLED's lower lifespan and burn in rate is an issue in "real-world use" but it is still a fact that OLED screes DO have more burn in issues and shorter lifespans than LCD displays.

However, OLED displays have made HUGE leaps in quality over the recent 5-7 years. (from low-res junk to really really nice displays), that being said, even recent "flagship" OLED phones (s6 and s6 edge) I have personally seen burn-in so bad that I would consider the phone unusable on display in my local AT&T store.

If that is your personal experience, then I retract my comment. I personally haven't encountered that, from any friends I've seen with Samsung phones (I've inquired about some Motorola phone display's as well).
 
Nice hyperbole regarding most iPhone and iPad displays.

And plenty of iPhones are perfect after 4 years of service. While plenty of oled exhibit burn in.
I have bought quite a few I devices in 5 years, and I never had a bad display.
No dead pixels, etc. and I have a slight ocd about that. Had a iPhone 6s with too yellow whites though, but iOS 9.3 beta took care of that..

Don' t believe everything you read. Apple users that are complaining here are a very very small percentage of all buyers.
They could even be the students that were payed by Samsung to post bad reviews of htc phones in Korea .(they didn' t even have a htc.
Yes, also a very nice company , Samsung.
 
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I have bought quite a few I devices in 5 years, and I never had a bad display.
No dead pixels, etc. and I have a slight ocd about that. Had a iPhone 6s with too yellow whites though, but iOS 9.3 beta took care of that..

Don' t believe everything you read. Apple users that are complaining here are a very very small percentage of all buyers.

Pretty much goes for everything here. Some people are over-critical when it comes to their tech. Of course we expect quality - but some of the stories I've heard - regardless of OEM - blow my mind.
 
Are there really people that still believe that Apple is infallible?

Yes, But I've got almost all of them ignored so i don't see their posts :p

it's funny when I see the little "there are ignored posts on this page" and every now and then, I click on it, and it's the exact same dozen users say the exact same, almost inane crud.

And it's almost, entirely, always boiled down to "Apple is always right, and everyone else sucks". The regularity of these exact same dozen posters posting the exact same completely 100% biased comments, almost makes me believe they are in fact "shills".

but, you know the addage: Where both Malice and Ignorance can both the cause, Never assume Malice.
 
HEE HEE HEE. Yes, I do or I wouldn't have typed it. HO HO HO! LOL!!

Well, in that case, please know that you're WRONG. Expandable memory via microSD cards is NOT a gimmick. You of all people using Apple's memory limited iPhone should know this first hand.

Unless of course all you use is iCloud, which then should also be pointed out that not everyone is as privileged as you to have so much bandwidth available to constantly pull data from at an affordable price OR be on a network that's fast enough (which is the problem that I have).

So no, it's not a gimmick. You only think it because you fail to realize that others have different needs. Thank god that there are alternative options and not a narrow-minded point of view where everyone has to use the same phone with the same crippled features.
 
Pretty much goes for everything here. Some people are over-critical when it comes to their tech. Of course we expect quality - but some of the stories I've heard - regardless of OEM - blow my mind.

Yeah I've heard some really bad ones too. I'd go as far as to say any product they care about. I for instance, am also super picky when it comes to my car (also technology I guess you could say, but not necessarily because of that), and furniture. If it looks good, I care about it, and am picky about quality.
 
Looking at my iPhone 6S Plus and my Galaxy S6 i have no idea who could conclude that Galaxy S6 has a better screen. Blind man probably.
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Your suffering is well deserved.
Judging by your eyesight, are you entirely sure you have an S6 and 6S Plus?
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I guess. Yes. Just like the world is blind when a much older 6S with fewer CU cores, lower cpu clock speed and less ram still provides better performance and fluid ui. Not something i can say about s6 and from what i saw in the videos s7 is no better.

"4 GB RAM for better multitasking" - what a ****ing joke.
Watch them videos on your iPhone? We've already got an idea about your eyesight
 
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Oh I know they do, they just tend to be under the ages of 22 I think. Any media I do watch on my phone are vines, short youtube videos and stuff on Facebook...which to be honest its not going to benefit from a better screen, they could all have benefit from a better camera though!

Sorry, over 60 and look at my screen a lot. If I didn't I wouldn't have the damn thing.

You seem to be making the argument for someone that doesn't actually need a smart phone. Either way arguing against a better screen because of not using it how it was made to be used is a pretty ridiculous argument.

If I owned a car that I never drove over 40 mph I guess that means nobody drives faster than that so no need to make it any powerful.


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If that is your personal experience, then I retract my comment. I personally haven't encountered that, from any friends I've seen with Samsung phones (I've inquired about some Motorola phone display's as well).

We had 3 sgs2's for 4 years or so including the kids after us and no burn ins, 4 have moto's right now with no burn in's. I think a lot of it is invented. OK, not invented per se but at least stuck way back in the past or just parroting things they have heard.
 
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Sorry, over 60 and look at my screen a lot. If I didn't I wouldn't have the damn thing.

You seem to be making the argument for someone that doesn't actually need a smart phone. Either way arguing against a better screen because of not using it how it was made to be used is a pretty ridiculous argument.

If I owned a car that I never drove over 40 mph I guess that means nobody drives faster than that so no need to make it any powerful.


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We had 3 sgs2's for 4 years or so including the kids after us and no burn ins, 4 have moto's right now with no burn in's. I think a lot of it is invented. OK, not invented per se but at least stuck way back in the past or just parroting things they have heard.

Yeah I think most likely.

Can't tell for sure, but it is my opinion without any other knowledge.
 
I don't understand why some people are arguing here,there is no personal preference here,OLED is superior to LCD.period.
it's a fact.just like gold being superior to iron.
it's only a matter of time..Apple will be implementing OLED screens in their phones.the day will come and same people who are dismissing OLED superiority out of "habit" will start to say wow and praise them..others..can already appreciate them on Samsung (among a few others) devices.
 
Not surprised. Got to play with the S7 and S7 Edge at my job. It's awesome. The camera is pretty insane and the display makes the iPhone look dated as hell
 
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Difference is most iPhone and iPad LCD displays come defective out of the box under normal use with yellowing, grey as black, bad pixel(s), uniformity issues, book spining, dust under screen, pressure distortion, etc. and isn't immune from backlight aging while aging of SAMOLED under normal use takes years usually long after you've upgraded. From personal experience my iPhone 4 developed a yellow spot over time that didn't go away while the Galaxy S from the same year still looked like new up until I still had it last year. No display is perfect but SAMOLED is closer to perfection while LCD has many more inherent defects but it's cheaper and more profitable for Apple.


Um... those things you mentioned; while they do happen, are RARE manufacturing defects (Rare as a percent of all Iphone screens manufactured)

Back light aging isn't an issue with LED illuminated panels.
AND yes, normal use and display phones are completely different scenarios; but these OLED phones that I saw personally were only a few months old (this was November/December that I saw these phones.)

Plus; only very recently has OLED mitigated some of it's most flagrant flaws (since 2013+ or so)
the first OLED screens on phones were TRASH; terrible: power usage, resolution, pixelation, dithering,color gamut, nearly every measurable attribute except contrast ratio and viewing angle (inherent benefits of OLED)

Even as recently as the Galaxy S4 the screen was noticeably behind the Iphone 5's in some key aspects:

Power consumption (0.7-1.5w compared to fixed 0.74w)
Resolution (still on pentile with 312/441 ppi)
Overall Brightness
contrast rating (brightness/reflectivity)
Viewing Angle Color Shifts
Overall Color Gamut.

This was a 2013-2014 Phone, so not that long ago the benefits of OLED (contrast ratios etc...) hardly even balanced their drawbacks.
 
Removable media isn't a gimmick. I'll give you a couple of real world scenarios where removable media is integral to my life. 4k videos take up a crapload of storage space so I tend to run out of room VERY quickly.
Why are you storing 4K video on a handset? Four times the pixel count of an HD television on a screen the size of an ice cream sandwich? Any reason you don't dump your videos to a computer at the end of the day? Do you need to shoot that much 4K video that you can't make it that far (personally, I'd rather shoot at 60fps than 4K, but your call)? If so, yeah, you might be that person who's bump into a storage ceiling.
And let's get one thing clear, Apple not putting in this technology is usually based on saving money. They have by far the largest profit margin on hardware of any company out there and they know it. It's an incredibly smart move because they know just how many trade offs their fans are willing to take to have that Apple logo. If they wanted to put out an OLED screen they could, they just choose not to.
Fair enough. But that doesn't mean that they're pushing inadequate tech. They've never been about spec matching (with the arguable exception of a bigger iPhone) and bully for them for it.
Well, in that case, please know that you're WRONG.
Thanks for clearing that up.
You of all people using Apple's memory limited iPhone should know this first hand. Unless of course all you use is iCloud.
As I wrote in my post, my phone is half full. That means I need less than nothing more. Here's what I know first hand: on my phone I have 910 songs, 116 videos including 4 full length movies, 2168 photos, and 301 apps. Of 114 GB capacity I have 51.3 GB available. I think I'm in pretty good shape. I use iCloud to only sync some data, like 1Password and core services.
Thank god that there are alternative options and not a narrow-minded point of view where everyone has to use the same phone with the same crippled features.
I guess there are over 100 million narrow-minded iPhone users who don't bemoan the lack of removable media. Since you're the arbiter of truth please share with us the percent of those people who feel crippled. But hey, we're "WRONG" so what do we know?
Stop drinking so much apple's kool aid.
Supporting Apple is tantamount to being drugged? Well, at least you didn't get personal.

And since, in your accusational fog, you actually know nothing about me, let me share that I have a lot of gripes about Apple. Too many to bother listing here. Some nitpicking, some serious and fundamental. But complaints about not being an early adopter isn't one of them.

Wow, I went long. Have a nice day.
 
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I guess there are over 100 million narrow-minded iPhone users who don't bemoan the lack of removable media. Since you're the arbiter of truth please share with us the percent of those people who feel crippled. But hey, we're "WRONG" so what do we know?

So what? The majority of iPhone purchases are done out of vanity and ignorance, the same as it was when the iPod was dominating the market. People didn't know better then and they don't know better today.

Like I said, I'm glad there are alternatives to the iPhone because YOU and your preferences are not going to dictate of how others, like myself, will use their phone.
 
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I don't understand why some people are arguing here,there is no personal preference here,OLED is superior to LCD.period.
it's a fact.just like gold being superior to iron.
it's only a matter of time..Apple will be implementing OLED screens in their phones.the day will come and same people who are dismissing OLED superiority out of "habit" will start to say wow and praise them..others..can already appreciate them on Samsung (among a few others) devices.

There are plenty of instances where iron is superior to gold, it's a fact.
 
Not surprised. Got to play with the S7 and S7 Edge at my job. It's awesome. The camera is pretty insane and the display makes the iPhone look dated as hell
I had a go on the new edge in the Samsung store today. Took my breath away. What a beautiful phone and that screen! Made me wish I wasn't tied into my iPhone contract! iPhone 7 better be something special -6s looks and feels antique next to the edge!
 
If that is your personal experience, then I retract my comment. I personally haven't encountered that, from any friends I've seen with Samsung phones (I've inquired about some Motorola phone display's as well).
Please don't assume that I mean OLED is a "bad" display type; it has made major improvements over the years, building on its strengths and working on it's weaknesses. Burn-in is still an issue. Though, as you said, in "real-world" use cases, it might no be a problem, especially if the phone has a two year lifespan.
 
So what? The majority of iPhone purchases are done out of vanity and ignorance, the same as it was when the iPod was dominating the market. People didn't know better then and they don't know better today.
Nice! Hear that everyone? iPhone owners just went from narrowminded and crippled to vain and ignorant.

Please, oh please, enlighten us as to the extent of this majority. 54%? 72%? Any references? Surely you must have data on this.

Oh, and please change your username. You're ruining a perfectly good movie.
 
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Nice! Hear that everyone? iPhone owners just went from narrowminded and crippled to vain and ignorant.

Please, oh please, enlighten us as to the extent of this majority. 54%? 72%? Any references? Surely you must have data on this.

Oh, and please change your username. You're ruining a perfectly good movie.

I'll repeat myself:

Like I said, I'm glad there are alternatives to the iPhone because YOU and your preferences are not going to dictate of how others, like myself, will use their phone.
 
I'll repeat myself:

Like I said, I'm glad there are alternatives to the iPhone because YOU and your preferences are not going to dictate of how others, like myself, will use their phone.
No need. I read that part. I'm flattered that you think Apple takes their cues from little ol' me. All Apple though.

I was more struck by the part I quoted. You know, the part where you got nasty about iPhone users without justification or references.
 
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