spencerwatts said:
there are plenty of republicans who are very tolerant of homosexuals. labling with such broad generalizations isn't usually a smart thing to do.
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there are plenty of republicans who are very tolerant of homosexuals. labling with such broad generalizations isn't usually a smart thing to do.
yep gay here too!
Mostly out, except to some of my family. (but hey most of them are 12,000 kms away
)
So out to all my mates, and all my work colleagues and a good number of cousins.
Still single though which sucks! And having most of my mates being straight blokes really doesn't help in the finding a bf scene As most of my going out tends to be hanging out with or getting drunk with my mates
Mostly out, except to some of my family. (but hey most of them are 12,000 kms away
) So out to all my mates, and all my work colleagues and a good number of cousins.
Still single though which sucks! And having most of my mates being straight blokes really doesn't help in the finding a bf scene
As most of my going out tends to be hanging out with or getting drunk with my mates 
My partner worked on Capitol Hill as a press secretary for Republican Louisiana Senator for 5 years, and up until about 2 years ago were fairly staunch Republicans ourselves.
No reason you can't be gay and Republican. The Republican party is SUPPOSED to be about freedom, liberty and the government keeping it's oversized nose out of your business as long as you don't infringe on the rights of another.
They've obvioiusly strayed form that path.
No reason you can't be gay and Republican. The Republican party is SUPPOSED to be about freedom, liberty and the government keeping it's oversized nose out of your business as long as you don't infringe on the rights of another.
They've obvioiusly strayed form that path.
gwuMACaddict said:
I vote democrat now, but I used to actually work for two of the republicans in my state when I was on my politics/small gov't kick...they were nice folk, one totally had a gay brother/cousin (forget which) that was always around, helping out and stuff.
gwuMACaddict said:
Name some in the Federal government please. You seriously need to back up that statement. Name me one Republican in Congress who supports gay rights- and I mean everything from discrimination in housing to equal marriage rights. These are the Republicans who make the laws, so they're the most important to pay attention to. And even of you can name one, that's hardly "plenty", more like "a few" or "some".
Agreed, but if this is where the thread goes, we'll be moving to Politics forum any minute now... Then the guy who started the whole thing won't be allowed in to follow up on thingsleekohler said:
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PickledSquirrel said:Agreed, but if this is where the thread goes, we'll be moving to Politics forum any minute now... Then the guy who started the whole thing won't be allowed in to follow up on things
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Sorry- he was pointing out an inaccuracy by stating another. I was just making a correction, that's all. Ok, I'll stop now.
Jacksteruk309 said:I'm gay, just came out to my friends two weeks ago
But my parents... I daren't think about it
Anyway, I have iPod socks
Yeah- attitudes are kind of similar to the US in the UK, aren't they?
Jacksteruk309 said:I'm gay, just came out to my friends two weeks ago
But my parents... I daren't think about it
Anyway, I have iPod socks
Gay by nature, fabulous by choice
Congrats. I came out earlier this summer, parents first. I come from an extemely liberal family, so I was never worried.
I encourage you to come out to your parents. Do it in whatever way you feel comfortable. I told myself the first half of summer that I was going to come out to them in person, but I couldn't bring myself to do it, so I wrote a letter. You can formulate your thoughts better that way.
My reason for coming out was that I wanted to have the best relationship I could with them, and in order to do that I needed to be honest about myself. I'll actually copy and paste what I said:
It was a part of a long letter which included a lot of juicy stuff
.However, I don't know your parents, nor do I know you... but I can imagine very few cases where not telling your parents is the better thing to do. Especially given the fact that you will have to come out to them someday. It might be a bit suspicious if you are 45 and still don't have a wife and you've been living with your 'room mate' for x amt of years
. They might already know.Good luck,
scem0
I've been in the closet for a while and yesterday (last night to be more precise) told my best friend. Only person I plan to tell tho! AH.. Feels so great!
AH.. Feels so great! Frozone said:I've been in the closet for a while and yesterday (last night to be more precise) told my best friend. Only person I plan to tell tho!
Congrats
! Big step to be sure...wouldn't be surprised if you end up telling other people in time, it's always been nice to have other people around that you can be completely honest with (at least that's what happened with me). But all in good time aboutthat said:Congrats
Well, I'm only in High School at the moment. And I live in Georgia. A very churchy town, actually. Conservative Churchiness & Bi-Ness don't mix!
But, I didn't think she'd care and she didn't! AHHH *HUGS HER* EDIT: Forgot some of the post. I'll probably tell people whenever I get into college. Idk though.
Aww, look at the youngin's in this thread, they're so cute!!
Almost makes me wish I came out before I was 18...
*brain activates*
*thinks back to ultra-conservative high and middle school*
*remembers the most miniscule hint of anything non-heterosexual in classmates*
*remembers how they were treated*
*thanks self for keeping things on the down-low for awhile*
Almost...
Almost makes me wish I came out before I was 18...
*brain activates*
*thinks back to ultra-conservative high and middle school*
*remembers the most miniscule hint of anything non-heterosexual in classmates*
*remembers how they were treated*
*thanks self for keeping things on the down-low for awhile*
Almost...
::hugs all around!::
God, that iPod socks comment still kills me. Were it not for the carbon iSkin I bought simultaneously with my iPod, I would have grabbed up a pack of those socks in a heartbeat. Maybe it's time I laid the iSkin to rest. I'm up for a change, sure.
Edit: The socks are included in the edu discount! Why didn't I know this?! There's no stopping the charge tonight.
God, that iPod socks comment still kills me. Were it not for the carbon iSkin I bought simultaneously with my iPod, I would have grabbed up a pack of those socks in a heartbeat. Maybe it's time I laid the iSkin to rest. I'm up for a change, sure.
Edit: The socks are included in the edu discount! Why didn't I know this?! There's no stopping the charge tonight.
Hi, im Bi.
My mom is totally cool about it, but i think that my dad feels otherwise. if I brought a guy home I dont think he would freak about, but he grew up in a part of the world that isnt too tolerant. My dad knows that I have dated (in the past) a young man, but Im sure he wants ot believe it was a phase and me just growing up and all that. He and I are no different now than we were before he knew, so its no big deal.
My mom is totally cool about it, but i think that my dad feels otherwise. if I brought a guy home I dont think he would freak about, but he grew up in a part of the world that isnt too tolerant. My dad knows that I have dated (in the past) a young man, but Im sure he wants ot believe it was a phase and me just growing up and all that. He and I are no different now than we were before he knew, so its no big deal.
MacHarne said:
They're on edu discount?!...Hmmmm.....*Heads to apple.com*
EDIT: BAH!!! only a few dollars off...
neildmitchell said:
My parents seemed to have known. My friends from HS thought I was on another "crusade". For I was the only white student in the Black Lit studies in my school. I was involved in environmental protests, and the such.
Though I really felt for my best friend in HS. Turns out that each of his best friends from each school (elementary, JHS, and HS) were gay. Didn't help matters between him, when I had a boyfriend with me and he called me to come over. Turned out that my boyfriend at the time was his best friend from JHS.
My second best friend from HS sort of freaked out, since we had spent two weeks hitting the Carolina beaches. Sharing a tent, and on one stormy night the only room we could find was a single queen bed. Nothing happened, nor did I try. But he just freaked out over it.
vniow said:
LOL, I know the feeling all to well. My first date in JHS was more of trying to follow my peers. And for the next four years as well. Growing up in the redneck capital of Prince Georges County Maryland in the 70's, being Gay meant a short life - or at least one filled with total Hell.
I remember "jokes" like - nice haircut, who is your dentist.
To this day I lament that though I felt strong attractions to the guys, that the one guy that showed me true affection - I rebuffed. All out of fear that it was trap. He was a jock, and I was a nerd. Full chest hair in JHS he had! Years later I ran into him at a Gay bar. We talked of that awkward time for me, and my fears as a fat nerdy type. He said that his try at affection towards me was sincere. For he say an honesty in in my personality that was missing with his "jock" friends.
sprstu said:
You haven;t said how old you are, but given todays climate, you are in a better position to experience who you are. And the Gay side may end up being a phase. In some ways like true attachments I have had with women (including one that I was engaged to - we met through her friend, my male lover).
Not to say that I don't support true bi-sexuality. But in my case with the engagement I mentioned, she and I had a strong emotional attachment. We did love each other deeply. Sex was not a factor for us; she was non-sexual and she knew where I stood (technically still a virgin by conservative religious concepts - sex with a member of the opposite sex
). I just wonder if it truly possible to be a "true" bi-sexual in the long term?
aboutthat said:Only problem is, my parents (save one or two brief and awkward convos and a few creepy letters from my father admonishing me to "be good" because he "hoped to one day share in the joys of heaven" with me) haven't really breeched the subject at all. It's quite surreal...anyone else find this a bit odd? It's just very taxing, emotionally...i'm trying to just move on to the happiness and doesn't always work too well when you can't really talk about it with parents or anything (let alone hope to have them be happy for you someday if you find what you're looking for). Listened to some very loud music this morning...
Oh well...that's my minor venting for the day, I needed it, thanks all
I understand the father thing. Mine was one though that would not talk about emotions. My Dad's acceptance of my boyfriends came with unspoken knowledge that there would be no outward signs of affection (including couple banter). Everything was OK as long as it was just three guys having some grub, a brew or two, and watching what ever game was on the telly.
I took this as a victory after an estrangement brought on by my sister. We did not speak for like 4 years. During those fours years I found comfort in the Gay Community. I worked as a volunteer for the W-W Clinic in DC on the Hotline, and as a spokesperson in the early days of AIDS. I went on to create the first BBS dedicated to AIDS and STD's for Gays (SAIN- Sexually-transmitted diseases Aids Information Network). My role as spokesperson for W-W and the founder of SAIN gave way to many media interviews (local TV, CNN, and the Washington Post). With each viewing my sister said my Dad went into a tirade about his "****** son". Would have never known after he and I patched things up.
In fact after he died, I found in his personal papers the newspaper clippings featuring me. These were found with other clippings of my JHS and HS theater work; but as well as his own brushes with fame as a police officer at DCA and with the US Marshals Service. In seeking final peace, I took away that in some small way he was proud that I was trying to make life better for others.
iGary said:
Not wanting to take this to the Political Forums, but I did as a JHS student work on the re-election of Nixon.
The Republican Party lost me during the Reagan years, when Reagan refused to acknowledge the threat of AIDS directly (among other actions). I had friends in the RNC that lobbied hard both under Reagan and Bush I to have me as a "guest" a The State of the Union, as an example of individuals trying to make a difference (under Bush I, it was the thousand points of light thingy).
IMO the only party about freedom is the Libertarian Party. Both the RNC and DNC have their hands so deep in the pockets with the money, we will never be a country of the people by the people.
How I wish we could have a Mr. Smith in the WH. McCain and Dean (both who I would have voted for came closest to being the modern day Mr. Smith IMO.
Once I came out in 77 or 78, I looked upon being Republican and Gay much like being Black and belonging to the KKK or voting for Wallace after the stand-off.
gwuMACaddict said:
I am focusing on the Party, not the individual members that align themselves to the RNC. Moderate voices in both parties have been lost so long ago.
Chip NoVaMac said:
I'm glad to hear that things worked out well in the end; the best counsel I've ever gotten from friends is just to give things time. It's a bit frustrating (also a little selfish in a sense) to want everyone else to just be OK with it because I've come out; it's like you're ready to drive somewhere new and drag other people along for the ride when they're still not quite ready to get in the car. But giving time/space is definitely necessary, I think it's just finding what steps to take to gently push the comfort zone to induce a bit of change. Still workin on that one
In regards to W-W; I had wanted to volunteer doing some sort of hotline thing, but couldn't find anything in DE. But considering I go to school in DC, it could work. Do you still volunteer there Chip or know if they still run such a program? Being able to be there for people going through the same stuff that we found so difficult and strange and telling them they're not alone has always been something I've wanted to do.
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