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Gen 3 butterfly keyboard
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I think it is called, we haven't tested it and it probably won't work, but F-it, we are going to release the product anyway and people will buy it regardless
Define repaired. If you go in for a broken screen, they're not going to put a new keyboard on it.
Oh, I was referring to keyboard-repaired MBPs. Should have clarified that, whoopsie!
I'm sure we'll see whats new with this keyboard within 2 weeks now
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she did but hasn't since. This was my second motherboard replacement I need to call her back about issues with my keyboard they didn't fix that when it was out. This would be my second keyboard replacement and 4th major repair(2 motherboards and about to be 2 keyboards).
I can't wrap my head around the fact that the "supporters" of the butterfly keyboard are mostly expressing their experiences in terms like "adapted", "gotten used to" etc.
People used to LOVE typing on macs, now we are "adapting".
People used to LOVE typing on macs, now we are "adapting".
I really don't like any of the keyboards that much since the 2008 MBPs but the 2014/2015 are usable. I use an attached mechanical keyboard 90% of the time. I'm a bit surprised that Apple doesn't come up with their own mechanical keyboards. They good ones cost a lot of money and a lot of people will pay up for them.
Most likely you will have an issue. Yes it’s worth the change if issues arise. The 4th gen keyboard is interchangeable with the 2019’s according to another source I read
The third-gen change was to protect against dust but that didn't seem to be a real problem. Some review site will have to get one and take apart the keyboard and one of the keys to see the difference in materials and/or thickness.
I chose to adapt. To a Windows laptop, that is.
Sucks that it has, you know, Windows 10. However, getting a keyboard that does not feel like typing on a keyboard drawn on a plank is worth some sacrifices.
Does anyone know if you submit a late 2016 MacBook Pro in for repairs if they replace it with a quieter, GEN 3 Keyboard or if you simply get the GEN 1 keyboard? Thanks
I just left the apple store and can confirm. Had a problem with my 2018 MBP keyboard and they told they are ordering the 2019 keyboard to replace it with.
My third keyboard has now broken - definitely heat related. When it’s cold, it’s fine. When it heats up, space bar stops popping back up on the right hand side.
[doublepost=1558603105][/doublepost]If the 2019 keyboard fixes it, at least that means one repair for 2018 owners and you should be sorted.
2016/17 owners are SOL though.
[doublepost=1558603105][/doublepost]If the 2019 keyboard fixes it, at least that means one repair for 2018 owners and you should be sorted.
2016/17 owners are SOL though.
So in terms of objective information, since 2016 our company have been using a variety of MacBooks, MacBook Pros and I picked up a new Air last year. I think the numbers are 2 * Macbook 12", 2 * 2016 MBP (13"), 2 * 2017 MBP (15") & 2 * 2018 MBP (13").
The team have access to a few iMacs as well for the heavy lifting tasks, but the machines themselves are used in offices and also outdoors - properly outdoors in forests, on hills etc supporting our events. We don't have any sort of keyboard protection on them.
Out of those MacBooks and MBPs, we've had zero keyboard failures.
My 2018 MacBook Air suffered within a few months - not double presses or failed keys, but a few of the keys on the left hand side lost enough travel that it was easily noticeable, but didn't affect use.
Just thought I'd share that. I'm still not a massive fan of the keyboard and there's clearly an issue with the materials used, but like others have said, I don't think its all primarily down to dust (if it was, ours would all be borked) and I'd love to see the stats from Apple on failures.
The team have access to a few iMacs as well for the heavy lifting tasks, but the machines themselves are used in offices and also outdoors - properly outdoors in forests, on hills etc supporting our events. We don't have any sort of keyboard protection on them.
Out of those MacBooks and MBPs, we've had zero keyboard failures.
My 2018 MacBook Air suffered within a few months - not double presses or failed keys, but a few of the keys on the left hand side lost enough travel that it was easily noticeable, but didn't affect use.
Just thought I'd share that. I'm still not a massive fan of the keyboard and there's clearly an issue with the materials used, but like others have said, I don't think its all primarily down to dust (if it was, ours would all be borked) and I'd love to see the stats from Apple on failures.
Do the MacBooks get used for any heavy lifting?
My experience seems to put this down to heat (heat related metal fatigue/deformation perhaps). Given I've had a failure after 2 weeks, I also agree this is not down to dust/dirt ingress (this one hasn't really had a chance to get any dust in - but it does get bloody hot when compiling software).
Been testing mine this morning before I take it in later today, and there's a clear correlation - the hotter the machine is, the worse the problem is.
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Yes they do, but it doesn't make up the bulk of their work. So I think it absolutely backs up the theory that heat plays a factor, along with the tolerances in the materials used.
I don't believe you'll get the gen 3 or gen 4, you'll get the same keyboard