One company (Apple) had to buy 9 million N95 masks by law last year after the massive fires in California, which was a lucky coincidence, and they donated every single one of them.
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Germany Now Favors Apple-Google Contact Tracing API Over Home-Grown Solution
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Yes.
For one, the power draw is minuscule. And two, apps that want to use it need to opt-in anyway.
You think they're going to use this only for disease tracking? You think they're going to just turn it off when the threat is over? Will you be the guy who snitches on your neighbor for not cooperating?
I promise you, this will become a tool for erosion of liberty and freedom and if you think it's ok then you're part of the problem.
We all can only be glad that Apple did not make an exception to their security profile. Once they do everyone (government) will ask for special exceptions.
The government(s) would like to overlook the fact that we own the phones and get to decide our own destiny.
The government(s) would like to overlook the fact that we own the phones and get to decide our own destiny.
I am very good at seeing negatives. False negatives. And false positives as well. And those do harm: if the app gets it wrong to often, people aren’t going to follow the advice and the app becomes useless.
And it gets worse: 85% of people who are infected have no or just mild symptoms. That means that when they get a warning the fist time they will comply, possible, but not feel anything. The second time A 14 day quarantaine? meh? Third time? Almost guaranteed not...
True evil is getting people to agree with you and cooperate willingly (for their own good of course). Germany wasn't full of murderers when Hitler rose to power but he convinced millions that what they were doing was right. It's the slowly boiling frog scenario. Everything is just fine until one day it's not, but by then it's too late.
Promises break quickly. Please come back in 2 months and demonstrate to the forum where else this technology is used by these two companies.
I’ll call this FUD until proven wrong.
And please don’t drink the bleach.
20 years ago, people were outraged that cookies were tracking them online. Today, people are willingly signing up to be physically tracked 24/7. Imagine where we'll be in another 20 years.
If I'm wrong, nothing changes and we go back to a normal life. If you're wrong, we're looking at the business end of a bad deal that's probably impossible to get out of.
And please don't drink the kool-aid.
I am not drinking anything except coffee right now. If you have a point, come back then and tell us in the forum all about it.
And today I get a cookie disclaimer on any page I’m visiting. Why is that?
Lastly, I’m pretty sure your phone carrier has had your personalized movement data for at least two decades too. That concerns me much more than Apple having access to it.
That might work if people in risk groups were, say, 5% or less.
Instead, in the US, it's 37.6%, or 92.6 million people. At that point, what's the benefit in isolating some people? It's not like the isolated people magically have their own homes, shopping centers, etc. They'll still end up in contact with non-isolated people, which will now become even more frequent.
I thought I made my point clear. Like I said, 20 years from now people will be signing up for things that today seem outrageous, like home spot checks, emotion trackers, full body scanners at school entrances, and more I won't even post. It all starts with seemingly innocent things like "Exposure Notifications".
To add on to your response, conspiracy theorists who say things like "do your homework" or "do your research" but don't post any sources know that their sources are fact-free trash and don't want to be called out on it. They're just hoping that they can find more like-minded people who enjoy pretending that we're in the middle of a dystopian fairy tale.
This is opt-in, anonymous, no location tracking, and decentralized. If people really want to get back to some semblance of normalcy, this form of contact tracing is a huge step in that direction.
How did the United States send astronauts to the Moon 50 years ago? By tapping the expertise of incredibly smart and success-driven people who could solve difficult problems. What Apple and Google are embarking on is mice nuts in comparison.
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Forgive me if I missed this, but what if Bob is a troll, and enters fake positive test result?
You may trust your respective government. But I don't. Is the massive invasion of privacy by GCHQ and the NSA not evidence enough of this? Why would I willing give them more power and precedence? Personally I don't believe myself to be a paranoid individual, I'm just not naive.
Perhaps shutting everything down was a step too far.
This is like putting duck tape on a crack in the hoover dam.
If you are downplaying the abuse potential of this, you missed a lot of tech-news in the recent decade.
Stop this crap.
They are never going to roll back this kind of mass surveillance.
In case you love total surveillance, go to China.
They kick Human Rights in the face every day.
No app will protect you from infection or even cure you.
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Wear a mask, keep your distance. I will kick my iPhone very soon.
Stop this crap.
They are never going to roll back this kind of mass surveillance.
In case you love total surveillance, go to China.
They kick Human Rights in the face every day.
No app will protect you from infection or even cure you.
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Wear a mask, keep your distance. I will kick my iPhone very soon.
Israel suspends cellphone-tracking for coronavirus quarantine enforcement
An Israeli parliamentary oversight committee on Wednesday suspended police use of cellphone data to enforce coronavirus quarantines, with one lawmaker citing privacy concerns.
It's my understanding users will not be able to enter test results. Rather, those come from an official source.
We should look at Sweden, how to handle the situation.
There is no need for such an application.
Patients at risk should be isolated and supported.
The other People should be cautious in their normal live.
There is no need for such an application.
Patients at risk should be isolated and supported.
The other People should be cautious in their normal live.
"Bob [...] enters the test result..."
It is written right there in the grafic
Except it will be an QR code that's encoded with the result and is verified with the phone's ownership. Bob doesn't type in "Pass" or "Fail."