You know what? You could actually try and see. Launchpad is just as fast most of the time. try for yourself.
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Gizmodo: negative review of Lion... thoughts?
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You know what? You could actually try and see. Launchpad is just as fast most of the time. try for yourself.
You people just don't get it.
Full screen apps were made with small laptops screen in mind, not for 27 screens or multimonitor configurations, Apple have said several times that their most sold computers are MacBooks, so they have create some new functionalities for these kind of costumers.
I, for example I have a 27 iMac that I use for a living, I'm never gonna use this full screen mode(why will I waste all the screen real state?) and neither Launchpad, spotlight is way faster to launch apps for me, but that doesn't mean I have to whine just because this are not meant to me.
If you don't like the new app then don't use it, is an extra in the OS, it doesn't affect the way you use your Mac, just like Frontrow didn't dumb down the SO.
I can understand the complaints about spaces, apple screw some people workflows, I give you that but I dont get the complaints about Launchpad, like I said, if you don't like it, don't use it. I don't like cmd+TAB to switch between apps but I don't whine day and night about it's existence and how it does not suit my needs.
I don't know why people say Mac users are like a cult and that they eat everything Steve jobs made without hesitation, I've never seen this kind of whining about everything in other platform users, jeez.
Full screen apps were made with small laptops screen in mind, not for 27 screens or multimonitor configurations, Apple have said several times that their most sold computers are MacBooks, so they have create some new functionalities for these kind of costumers.
I, for example I have a 27 iMac that I use for a living, I'm never gonna use this full screen mode(why will I waste all the screen real state?) and neither Launchpad, spotlight is way faster to launch apps for me, but that doesn't mean I have to whine just because this are not meant to me.
If you don't like the new app then don't use it, is an extra in the OS, it doesn't affect the way you use your Mac, just like Frontrow didn't dumb down the SO.
I can understand the complaints about spaces, apple screw some people workflows, I give you that but I dont get the complaints about Launchpad, like I said, if you don't like it, don't use it. I don't like cmd+TAB to switch between apps but I don't whine day and night about it's existence and how it does not suit my needs.
I don't know why people say Mac users are like a cult and that they eat everything Steve jobs made without hesitation, I've never seen this kind of whining about everything in other platform users, jeez.
I have tried and used both and I can honestly say that Spotlight is much, much faster. The time it takes to navigate to the right app in Launchpad takes already more time than launching an app with Spotlight. Let alone if you have multiple pages of apps and folders.
I think gizmo spends too much tme hanging out with comuter nerds, and not enough time in the real world.Gizmodo said:
Staff meetings at work, looking around the table, 3/4 of the managers and engineers have leather bound daytimers. Yes, people over 18 (who probably represent 95% of Apple's customers) do still use such obsolete things.
Well, that and also that Apple hasn't invited them to the last few keynote speeches. Poetic justice.
You must be new here - The same can be said about 90% of MR's population
As I posted I think they were correct in the criticisms like launchpad. Its not the fastest method. Heck, just putting the applications folder on dock gets you to your applications in one click
You have to take Fitts's law into account though. Launchpad can be invoked with a fast gesture no matter where your cursor is positioned. Chances are, your cursor is somewhere near the middle of the screen, which means that the distance to your click target will be less than half the screen diagonal. The other thing is that Apple has opted for huge targets. All in all, this should result in the user's ability to rapidly launch applications. Of course, Spotlight might still be faster for experienced users who have the name of the application they're looking for in mind. It would be awesome though if Launchpad had an integrated keyboard search, where it would instantly filter down the apps as soon as you start typing.
I am somewhat ashamed now to admit that I am a starred commenter on Gizmodo. Since last year, and especially since its redesign, Gizmodo has declined sharply in every respect: their site is terrible, their writers now abuse sensationalism, anger and fear in far too many articles, and Sam Biddle just won't shut his mouth. It's nothing but garbage.
When I saw this article, my first reaction was to post a strongly worded comment refuting the many weak points of Diaz's argument. However, I decided that it didn't matter. No one on Gizmodo's staff would pay any heed to my abhorrence at a website that would use the word "cluster****" three times in an article and still aspire to call it journalism. Certainly I know that Mr Diaz doesn't take criticism from anyone.
Instead, yesterday I closed Gizmodo's window for the last time and will never return.
When I saw this article, my first reaction was to post a strongly worded comment refuting the many weak points of Diaz's argument. However, I decided that it didn't matter. No one on Gizmodo's staff would pay any heed to my abhorrence at a website that would use the word "cluster****" three times in an article and still aspire to call it journalism. Certainly I know that Mr Diaz doesn't take criticism from anyone.
Instead, yesterday I closed Gizmodo's window for the last time and will never return.
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I have an iMac 21.5" and a 21.5" monitor attached to it.
I'd like to have a full screen app on one screen while having a normal desktop on the other, or perhaps another full screen app.
Instead, I get a blanked out linen monitor.
Is that too hard to ask Mr Elite?
"You People"? Way to talk down to people for not being as forgiving as you when it comes to making excuses for changes in workflow and UI design.
Just because people don't "like it" doesn't mean they don't "get it". Apples intentions are clear, it's the execution that is under scrutiny.
I haven't tried Lion at all, but based on the advertised features, I think this may be the first version of OS X I don't upgrade to since having my Macbook. I hate how they combined Spaces, Dashboard, and Expose into Mission Control. I really loved how those were implemented in Leopard.
You are right. This has been posted to Apple many times and there is only hope that they provide it in a future update. You won't see it in 10.7.0 though...
Apple keeps innovating and releasing all sorts of stuff that no one else has. I kinda wish that Apple would take all of the next year and refine and hone in on each of their products.
Ie, figuring out exactly what they want Lion to be. Figuring out exactly how they can utilize iCloud across both OS X and iOS. Figure out how they can maximize inter-operability between every product they make. Squash every single bug. Just refine things. Kinda like Snow Leopard.
They need a Snow Lion and Snow iOS
Obviously I love Apple, every piece of electronics in my house is Apple except for things they don't make (TV, BluRay, Printer), but I do feel like they need to refine things, figure a few things out, and really work on the implementation. I don't need a new iPhone that is 5% faster and has an extra megapixel. I need all their awesome software to work together perfectly.
Ie, figuring out exactly what they want Lion to be. Figuring out exactly how they can utilize iCloud across both OS X and iOS. Figure out how they can maximize inter-operability between every product they make. Squash every single bug. Just refine things. Kinda like Snow Leopard.
They need a Snow Lion and Snow iOS
Obviously I love Apple, every piece of electronics in my house is Apple except for things they don't make (TV, BluRay, Printer), but I do feel like they need to refine things, figure a few things out, and really work on the implementation. I don't need a new iPhone that is 5% faster and has an extra megapixel. I need all their awesome software to work together perfectly.
I've been using Lion as my main operating system since Developer Preview 2. Here are some of my thoughts:
While some of the headline features offered by Lion (Launchpad, Mission Control, and full screen apps) may not be as magical and groundbreaking as Apple would like consumers to believe, they are by no means failures. Full screen apps will be useful to people using small laptops. Launchpad is just a neat way to launch your apps. Mission Control is an upgrade to Exposé and Spaces.
Despite not being a magnificent feat of computer engineering, Lion offers significant improvements over Snow Leopard in all areas of the OS. Search previews in Spotlight, full disk encryption, Versions, iOS-style autocorrect, search tokens, and AirDrop are all tools useful to any Mac user. iCal (while ugly to some) has seen UI improvements and additional features. Mail 5 is a great upgrade from Mail 4, which I saw as lacking features.
If you look at Lion in this manner, there isn't any disappointment. Apple has simply added tools to an already solid operating system, Snow Leopard. Lion isn't a failure, in my mind, it's just an upgrade.
While some of the headline features offered by Lion (Launchpad, Mission Control, and full screen apps) may not be as magical and groundbreaking as Apple would like consumers to believe, they are by no means failures. Full screen apps will be useful to people using small laptops. Launchpad is just a neat way to launch your apps. Mission Control is an upgrade to Exposé and Spaces.
Despite not being a magnificent feat of computer engineering, Lion offers significant improvements over Snow Leopard in all areas of the OS. Search previews in Spotlight, full disk encryption, Versions, iOS-style autocorrect, search tokens, and AirDrop are all tools useful to any Mac user. iCal (while ugly to some) has seen UI improvements and additional features. Mail 5 is a great upgrade from Mail 4, which I saw as lacking features.
If you look at Lion in this manner, there isn't any disappointment. Apple has simply added tools to an already solid operating system, Snow Leopard. Lion isn't a failure, in my mind, it's just an upgrade.
Did anyone ever expect Jesus Diaz to effuse about Lion? I'm taking Gizmodo's review with a pinch of salt.
http://daringfireball.net/2010/05/jesus_diaz
http://daringfireball.net/2010/05/jesus_diaz
All of you who are upset over the changes in spaces/expose surely must realize that some third party utilities will certainly be coming soon which will give you the ability to make it work like it used to. Most of the other complaints are about things that are optional to use, so just don't use them.
It cracks me up how people are always clamoring for Apple to change things. "it's so stale". "we've had the same interface for years" "Apple needs to keep up". Then they make a few changes and people are freaking out. Man, if they changed the whole interface, imagine the complaints then.
And isn't that's what important.
With that said however, if more negative reviews come forth, then apple will have a perception to fight. MS failed on reversing the negative perception of Vista. I don't think it will reach that epic failure but still this has the potential of turning poorly for apple if other reviewers come out against 10.7
HERE IS MY OPINION:
Honestly, if you don't like LION... then you don't like OSX or Snow Leopard for the matter. If Apple does changes to the OS from a back end like it did for SL, people complain of no new features...when they add features...then they complain they didn't do enough on the backends. Can they win really? So here is the deal, I've been using Lion since the second dev beta, and I love it. After all its SL with increased features and enhancements. This reiterates my first point, that if you don't like it, you didn't like before. Because this is SL with new features. It looks and behaves the same. They enhanced it with trackpad functionality that I simply couldn't go without now that I've used it. Lion turned my 13" MBP into a multiple monitor productivity machine. I feel like my MBP has 10 monitors attached to it. I put all my most used apps in full screen and constantly swipe back and forth between them using the swipe gesture. That alone is worth $29 bucks people. So if you are complaining, you didn't' like it from the beginning, because you haven't lost anything with Lion, only gained. If your system is slower its because you have an older system, because on mine its every bit as fast.
Honestly, if you don't like LION... then you don't like OSX or Snow Leopard for the matter. If Apple does changes to the OS from a back end like it did for SL, people complain of no new features...when they add features...then they complain they didn't do enough on the backends. Can they win really? So here is the deal, I've been using Lion since the second dev beta, and I love it. After all its SL with increased features and enhancements. This reiterates my first point, that if you don't like it, you didn't like before. Because this is SL with new features. It looks and behaves the same. They enhanced it with trackpad functionality that I simply couldn't go without now that I've used it. Lion turned my 13" MBP into a multiple monitor productivity machine. I feel like my MBP has 10 monitors attached to it. I put all my most used apps in full screen and constantly swipe back and forth between them using the swipe gesture. That alone is worth $29 bucks people. So if you are complaining, you didn't' like it from the beginning, because you haven't lost anything with Lion, only gained. If your system is slower its because you have an older system, because on mine its every bit as fast.
what i don't understand is why they're reviewing software that isn't shipping yet. they are basing the review off of a GM build, which may or may not be the final product, since at launch it's going to be a download only, changes can readily happen, unlike in the past where this is the copy that would be sent off to be pressed.
The reviewer, I think, wanted two separate UIs (like Windows 8) - one for tablets and one, more 'complicated' one, for desktops - I don't like this though, as the desktop user won't want to use the tablet UI, but the tablet user may want to use the desktop UI, as well as the tablet UI; also, if you're only going to use a desktop - therefore not using the tablet UI - then what's the point of upgrading; I can't see them improving the 'old' Windows UI.
Back to the point: Lion, on the other hand, is two integrated UIs, so it still keeps the 'old, complex' way (e.g. apps in the finder), and the 'new, simple' way (apps in Launchpad).
Back to the point: Lion, on the other hand, is two integrated UIs, so it still keeps the 'old, complex' way (e.g. apps in the finder), and the 'new, simple' way (apps in Launchpad).
