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I have been using it for under a week now, there is nothing really amazing great about it, certain things are annoying like launch pad, it seems pointless unless I can touch the screen. Still finding some of the gesture annoying. The calendar does not look that bad, mail is stunning and works wonders. Address book is simply ugly. I have find it stable enough.
 
Lion sucks because this Bertrand Serlet left the company and was replaced by Craig Federighi.

It's really people that change the way the OS works. Bertrand is a scientist and everything that OS X did under his command was science and information based.

Tiger - OS wide insta-search with widget capability, to find information better
Leopard - quick look (for information), Spaces (for better information display), seamless backup and 64-bit
Snow Leopard - Complete OS overhaul in terms of code refacturing and performance optimization

Now comes craig:

Lion - bunch of graphics updates, useless gesture features, dumbed down interface design, pointless interface elements and mission control.

It's clear who's the smart guy of the company. One is a scientist and another is an artist.
 
Lion sucks because this Bertrand Serlet left the company and was replaced by Craig Federighi.

It's really people that change the way the OS works. Bertrand is a scientist and everything that OS X did under his command was science and information based.

Tiger - OS wide insta-search with widget capability, to find information better
Leopard - quick look (for information), Spaces (for better information display), seamless backup and 64-bit
Snow Leopard - Complete OS overhaul in terms of code refacturing and performance optimization

Now comes craig:

Lion - bunch of graphics updates, useless gesture features, dumbed down interface design, pointless interface elements and mission control.

It's clear who's the smart guy of the company. One is a scientist and another is an artist.

The complaints are getting more and more absurd. Anyway, you conveniently left out Resume, Auto Save, Versions, Local Snapshots, Sandboxing and Privilege Seperation, Full Disk Encryption, File Coordination APIs, Ad-Hoc Peer-To-Peer Wifi, Search tokens, new Safari process architecture, per-user screen sharing, Quick Look in Spotlight, Push Notifications, and more...
 
Lion sucks because this Bertrand Serlet left the company and was replaced by Craig Federighi.

It's really people that change the way the OS works. Bertrand is a scientist and everything that OS X did under his command was science and information based.

Tiger - OS wide insta-search with widget capability, to find information better
Leopard - quick look (for information), Spaces (for better information display), seamless backup and 64-bit
Snow Leopard - Complete OS overhaul in terms of code refacturing and performance optimization

Now comes craig:

Lion - bunch of graphics updates, useless gesture features, dumbed down interface design, pointless interface elements and mission control.

It's clear who's the smart guy of the company. One is a scientist and another is an artist.

I don't think that's exactly fair to say. Graphics updates and new "useless" (really?) gestures are always a plus. If you don't like them, turn them off. And you can't believe that Craig was the mastermind behind the whole "bring iPad to the desktop" idea - he was given Jobs' or whoever's vision for 10.7 and made it work as best he could.

EDIT: I'm not defending either one of these people, I barely even know who they are. I just don't think you can blame one person for an operating system whose core concept was flawed at best.
 
Most of the fancy smansy stuff can be turned off like the (un?)natural gestures or ignored like the launchpad (not sure if i can remove it and it's gesture though) ..... But has anyone found the off-switch for autosaving yet?
 
Lion sucks because this Bertrand Serlet left the company and was replaced by Craig Federighi.

It's really people that change the way the OS works. Bertrand is a scientist and everything that OS X did under his command was science and information based.

Tiger - OS wide insta-search with widget capability, to find information better
Leopard - quick look (for information), Spaces (for better information display), seamless backup and 64-bit
Snow Leopard - Complete OS overhaul in terms of code refacturing and performance optimization

Now comes craig:

Lion - bunch of graphics updates, useless gesture features, dumbed down interface design, pointless interface elements and mission control.

It's clear who's the smart guy of the company. One is a scientist and another is an artist.

Yeah. :rolleyes:

Apple announced he was leaving on March 23, 2011. Do you really think he had nothing to do with Lion?
 
It's definitely Apple's Vista. They just tacked on some ipad garbage onto snow leopard

Definitely not upgrading.

Interestingly enough people said the same thing about Snow Leopard. With Lion (unlike Vista) apple made a lot of changes to OSX that the user can see and how he works. In Snow Leopard most of the changes like 99% was all under the hood.

Vista was a huge mistake by MS because they over promised on features and as the date kept slipping thy kept removing those features. 10.7 has lots of features and apple never over-promises.
 
I'm on Lion and I use Terminal all the time. It works the same as in Snow Leopard. The only differences are the addition of a full screen mode and previous commands are saved due to Resume (I think).
Previous commands are always saved. Type history
You can type the command by it's history number, for 123 type !123
And you can always arrow back through the last commands.

It is UNIX.
 
And Gruber is the biggest Apple ball washer of them all.

Quite true but, all the same, it would not be surprising if the reviewer had an axe to grind. Having no experience of Lion, I can neither agree or disagree with his view.

In any case, I am far more interested in user reviews. The gainsaying and cronyism of the tech press give me a headache.
 
for $30, i'm not complaining. i'd care less about launchpad, mission control, full screen, auto-save, resume, app store; i'm paying for filevault2, mail, hopefully a better smb for Windows file sharing, anywhere windows resizing, and no scroll bars.
 
It's definitely Apple's Vista. They just tacked on some ipad garbage onto snow leopard

Definitely not upgrading.

I wouldn't call it Apple's Vista. But from what I've seen so far:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/

There's nothing there to make me give up SL. Mail pretty much runs as is on SL as they are making a big deal on Lion. I have a desktop and do not want Magic Trackpad, so gestures doesn't do anything for me. Auto-save and Launchpad, meh. Resume and Mission Control, please.
I only hope I'll be able to use iCloud with SL and keep my .mac email address.
 
It hasn't been advertised much but Lion does a great job of automatically configuring all your communication accounts system-wide, including non-Apple accounts (Google, Yahoo, MS, Twitter, etc, etc). Reminds me of WP7, and hopefully is the direction iOS is going.
 
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. After running the GM I have found Lion to be very stable and have come to like the new gestures. Sure iCal looks silly, but thats hardly something to bitch about. It's surely no Vista. That's just a statement looking to ignite a fire storm and it seems to have done just that. Expect anything else from Gizmodo??? They are a joke.

Lion will be a huge success. Take that to the bank. Apple will be. :apple:
 
I read Gizmodo... and Jesus (guy who wrote that) is actually a pretty big Apple fanboy. He wrote an article about a month ago about how ios is the future and it's moving to desktops bla bla bla. He was all about Lion. Giz is pretty shady buut I think that was his honest opinion.
 
I read Gizmodo... and Jesus (guy who wrote that) is actually a pretty big Apple fanboy. He wrote an article about a month ago about how ios is the future and it's moving to desktops bla bla bla. He was all about Lion. Giz is pretty shady buut I think that was his honest opinion.
Based on the opinions of the defenders here, a true Apple Fan puts the companies profit margins over their petty needs for an efficient and effective workflow. :rolleyes:
 
Yet again another chance for me to ignore Gizmodo and the piss poor attempt at journalism it goes for. Probably still annoyed they didn't get an invite to the keynote.
 
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. After running the GM I have found Lion to be very stable and have come to like the new gestures. Sure iCal looks silly, but thats hardly something to bitch about. It's surely no Vista. That's just a statement looking to ignite a fire storm and it seems to have done just that. Expect anything else from Gizmodo??? They are a joke.

Lion will be a huge success. Take that to the bank. Apple will be. :apple:

Yup. I lost *ALL* respect for Gizmodo after they announced that a "new life form" had been found, when it was really just a lab-modified bacteria.
 
Based on the stuff I've seen, I'm looking forward to Lion a lot more than I did to Snow Leopard. Although I haven't tried Lion, I think I will like it.

I'm a quite afraid of Mission Control, as it seems much less intuitive, flexible and useful than Exposé + Spaces are, but everything else seems really good to me. We'll see very soon.
 
I'm a quite afraid of Mission Control, as it seems much less intuitive, flexible and useful than Exposé + Spaces are, but everything else seems really good to me. We'll see very soon.

Having used the GM for a while now, I find Mission Control more intuitive than the Expose + Spaces combo in the past. It's not as flexible though, although as with Spaces in Snow Leopard I expect that to be tweaked in point updates.

Those with gripes about Mission Control are most likely going to be power users who have got used to certain workflows based on Spaces/Expose. In my opinion Mission Control is more simple, so people like my Mum - who has never used Spaces in the past - might start to use it.

As for Gizmodo's review, there are some legitimate complaints about Lion - but for the most part, it reads to me like an article designed entirely for page views. They've either broken NDA to write it, downloaded it via torrent or broken an embargo (suspect this wouldn't be the case, as no doubt they're on all Apple blacklists these days).
 
Yup. I lost *ALL* respect for Gizmodo after they announced that a "new life form" had been found, when it was really just a lab-modified bacteria.

Even though that lab-modified bacteria was created (and living) out of stuff that no naturally occuring bacteria had ever lived off of before?

Ok, it's sensationalist, but it wasn't too far from the truth.

I just wanna know what happens when that Ars guy everyone loves, reviews Lion with a ho-hum? ;)
 
I just wanna know what happens when that Ars guy everyone loves, reviews Lion with a ho-hum? ;)
I havent been a fan of Ars lately because I feel Jacqui Chang has become quite the Apple apologist.

But I'll still read all the reviews because I'm desperately looking for a good explanation for why a desktop OS needed to be changed to be more touch friendly despite it not being touch capable.
 
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