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You have every right to vote with your wallet, but you are far too emotional about this.

The bezel is no big deal. You are over reacting.

All that said, do what makes you happy. No one should have an emotional reaction whether you stay or go. Good luck!
 
That's not even true. Samsung wasn't there first with the S8 and Note 8. The Galaxy Nexus (designed by Samsung for Android/Google) had facial recognition for face unlock way back in 2011. SIX YEARS AGO.

Why do you bring up who comes up with the feature first? Should Apple fans say well iPhone first had touchscreens before Samsung. Apple had Siri before Bixby, Apple Pay before Samsung Pay, etc etc.

My point is and what others have been pointing out, Apple usually makes the experience better and they are often (sometimes mistaken for) coming up with that said feature. Who knows how FacialID will turn out but I’d bet on it working much better than Samsung’s face unlocked (can be tricked by a photo...).

Notes used to release around November then it gets bumped up before iPhones release on September???

Samsung’s whole strategy is based around what Apple does.
 
Why do you bring up who comes up with the feature first? Should Apple fans say well iPhone first had touchscreens before Samsung. Apple had Siri before Bixby, Apple Pay before Samsung Pay, etc etc.
I wasn't the one who brought up who did what first. The person who I was responding to did that. I was simply pointing out that he was wrong.
 
I don’t get paid to do that.

What I do know is the X should have been the standard phone this year at it’s “normal” price but Apple released the 8 because they are money hungry. Part 1 of their plan hasn’t really worked out because I’d bet the 8 has been their worst launch in years.

Many people on this forum say it’s because the X, but other than people on this forum, I don’t hear many people talking about ordering the X.

I could be wrong, but charging a premium price on something that should have fell into last years pricing structure is one reason.

Also, even if it was in last years pricing structure, I can’t believe they’re leaving the notch only so other people can tell that it’s the new iPhone X. There are no benefits of the notch and it should really be hidden by a software update to black out the top corners so it doesn’t stick out. That may happen, but for now it isn’t because Apple is more concerned with their branding than user experience.

I’ve owned iPhones for the last ten years, Android may suck, but I’m actually willing to give it a try because I will not reward Apple for their greed.

I think the final piece was their garbage storage price gauging increases alongside AppleCare increases...I was dead set on ordering two new phones but for the storage capacity I’m looking at, it was $2,300 before taxes and AC+.

(PS - There was no reason to raise the price of the iPad Pro by $50 during the keynote, pure greed at its finest)

But you are on a opinionated website, where you offer insight and feedback, but your not paid for your time here either regarding your first sentence.

That said, You make some good points in your Post. But this is how this Company is today . There is no in between, either you support Apple's product line and controversial decisions, or don't approve of their current leadership path.

To me, the Notch does one thing, it identifies the iPhone. It is off putting, but for the time being, there is no mistake this is the new iPhone when people see it. But For those who complain about be Notch, it's as simple as not supporting it with your funds.

I also didn't agree with the $50.00 increase with the iPads. I remember When the 9.7 Pro launched in March 2016, I was all set to purchase it, when Apple announced the price increase, I was rather disappointed. But again, either the consumer chooses to support Apple's decision making/Products or not.

But for me personally and I speak for no one else, I short Apple in their product line and decisions, not always because I agree with everything they do, but because they make the best electronic Products in the world and they have immaculate customer service. Those two ingredients are fitting for a successful company, even if it means I spend more money.

But nonetheless, I agree with what Tim Cook said during an interview while bsck. He said "Apple is not about bejng tbe first to the market with anything, we are about being the best at what we do, and putting out the best possible product." That I agree with what he said, contrary to what others believe.
 
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"Apple is not about being the first to the market with anything, we are about being the best at what we do, and putting out the best possible product." That I agree with what he said, contrary to what others believe.

Compare what Cook said with what Steve Jobs once said:

"Innovation comes from people meeting up in the hallways or calling each other at 10:30 at night with a new idea, or because they realized something that shoots holes in how we’ve been thinking about a problem. It's ad hoc meetings of six people called by someone who thinks he has figured out the coolest new thing ever and who wants to know what other people think of his idea."
 
You can't be serious? Android allows you do do what ever you like, its the Apple ecosystem where you have to make compromises as its Apples way or the highway.

The issue is when iOS users try to make the switch to Android they cant let go of their old ways of doing things. You have to throw all that ecosystem rubbish out the window and do things differently, and understandably its very hard for people as Apple has spoon-fed them for so many years. I think it works for some people but for me personally I like to do things my way so Android really suits me.

My experience for multiple years, multiple iPhones, is it always works for me, multi device inter connectivity is great as is communication with family.

Don’t care how many widgets or screen looks others want
I’m sticking what works for me, has never given me any issues.

So all those android fans, great for you. Still don’t understand why you come to Apple forum to tell us how we are wrong for our choice of phone.

Whatever floats your boat I guess.
 
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Ummmm I don’t recall people getting so wired up about what brand of TV they own!? Why does your current brand of mobile matter so much? Your mobile does not define you. It’s a tool. Nothing more. Who cares what brand you currently own? Get the brand that makes you feel warm and fuzzy right now and down the road get the one that makes you warm and fuzzy at that time. No need to feel bad or make others feel bad about what brand they are currently using.

really this world is pretty sad when we argue over what brand of phone to buy... who’s is better etc. And there are millions of people starving in this world who can’t afford a mobile, or some being killed for even using a phone (North Korea, ISIS etc).
 
Meh. I have bestbuy protection on my phone and if it breaks I just get a new one. Anything else phone wise I never had an issue on ios or Android. I do think it's a plus for ios or Apple devices which is why I am keeping my iPad and MacBook pro though.
So do you pay for the bestbuy protection? What if the phone breaks with in the 1year warranty period, does bestbuy give you another one? Or do you have take it or send it in to Samsung? Just curious!
 
Now with the huawei mate 10 and pixel 2 coming,after lg g6,v30,s8 ,all the androids will become one,all of them looks the same,with the same OS,same cpu etc
 
"Goodbye Apple! Shame on you for making products I've enjoyed for 9 years! This year I'm not as excited about your products, so you lose me as a customer! Mwahahaha!!! You'll be sorry!!!! Maybe? Please.... Be sorry?"

(Meanwhile Apple sells a gajillion X's and OP clutches his Mate 7 (or whatever # they're up to now... does anyone really pay attention?) and dreams of what could have been...)

"I sure showed them!"
 
I’ve been using iOS since the iPhone 3g, and I’m pretty excited about the camera quality of the 8 and the X. No, the X isn’t perfect, but it is exciting for the AR possibilities. If you buy any gadget expecting perfection, you are destined for a lifetime of disappointment. It sounds like you want one of the following
  • A cheaper iPhone 8
  • A more exciting iPhone 8 (but not so exciting that it has a notch)
  • A notch-less iPhone X
There are some fantastic Android options, and Google is about announce the Pixel 2 on the 4th. Just don’t expect perfection.
 
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To some degree I agree. Unfortunately other flagshios are following suit. Apparently the pixel will be around $850 as well. Granted, that’s still cheaper, but the price is going in the wrong direction for me lol.

Maybe I’m older now and I’m rethinking how I spend my money. If I’m honest with myself, a new phone every year never really made a whole lot of sense. But when the phone is now 50% more expensive than it used to be, that’s.... not great lol.

I told myself I really wanted the X but I may end up using the 6s plus yet another year.
 
You made an account just to say goodbye?

Nothing wrong with that. Most people wouldn’t be here unless they have some concerns (small & large), whereas those happy with their device probably wouldn’t be posting so much nor even be active here at all.

IMO though, this would have to be the most puzzling time to leave Apple. The X is a middle-ground of an emerging new form factor that needs to happen & will in the coming years: edge to edge screens with zero bezels.

On its own, the X is my most exciting progression in iPhones, but I’m coming from non-plus devices. The OP never stated if they used plus/non-plus, but I presume it’s the latter. If so, I guess it’s understandable why they’re disillusioned, but I also think they’re expecting too much, too quickly as the minimised bezel Plus models were never going to be released this year.

Next year may be the year when people decide to return....or the X may still keep them around for a bit longer....going to be easier to make such a decision after the device is used/reviewed to within an inch of it’s life 😀
 
So do you pay for the bestbuy protection? What if the phone breaks with in the 1year warranty period, does bestbuy give you another one? Or do you have take it or send it in to Samsung? Just curious!
With bestbuy I think so but I haven't bought it since the Note 4 came out. Don't really care since most defects can be found within the the 14 day return policy Tbh. Even with my iPhones I have found any defects within 5 days let alone 14.
 
Except it is an actual product and many people have had real hands on experience with it. And they’ve shared those experiences through video and articles.
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Technically yes but it’s fake AF lacking any real amount of security. Being able to be fooled by a photo is not what I would call working as intended. They even had to slap the fingerprint reader awkwardly next to the camera lens because they can’t reply on their face recognition.
Because we can prive the same can't be said with face Id? It failed on stage.
 
Because we can prive the same can't be said with face Id? It failed on stage.

TouchID would have failed the same way. Someone clearly restarted the demo iPhone before it went onstage. Shame on Craig Federighi for not testing it before he went on stage. Perhaps it was already on stage waiting for him though? Somebody sure screwed up! 🙄
 
TouchID would have failed the same way. Someone clearly restarted the demo iPhone before it went onstage. Shame on Craig Federighi for not testing it before he went on stage. Perhaps it was already on stage waiting for him though? Somebody sure screwed up! 🙄
Lmao. I'm not buying into that PR crap Apple wants to sell. They want you to believe that's true. Who knows it could be but it would be dumb for Apple to say hey you're right it failed.
 
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Right...because the iPhone display on the very large screen at the keynote did not say “use passcode to enable FaceID” on it. Keep your head in the sand bro!
Because my iPad isn't saying my pass code is required to use touch ID after I just failed it multiple times when I use my middle finger to unlock my device. My index finger and thumb on both hands are the ones I saved. Fail it enough times you'll get something like that. Even the Apple PR speak blames it on to many faces or whatever prior to the test.


I can also test this on my 2017 15 Macbook Pro as well. Also have an iPhone 7 plus to try it as well if you need more proof.


Tested on my 10.5 iPad Pro running ios 11.01
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Because my iPad isn't saying my pass code is required to use touch ID after I just failed it multiple times when I use my middle finger to unlock my device. My index finger and thumb on both hands are the ones I saved.


Tested on my 10.5 iPad Pro running ios 11.01
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https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/27/apple-face-id-security-paper-support-document/

There are other reasons why a passcode can be required. And quite simply it would be MUCH easier to trigger false authentications by someone else handling the iPhone prior to the demo (because FaceID only allows 1 face to be registered) than it would for 5 false fingerprint attempts. All it would take is someone setting up the phone moving the phone, triggering raise to wake on the screen, which in turn triggers a FaceID attempt. Or someone setting up the phone on stage could have mistakenly squeezed the phone pressing both the sleep/wake button and volume down button. Which also disables FaceID.

The point is, it’s quite easy to trigger 5 false attempts with FaceID when someone other than the registered owner is handling the locked device.
 
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