Goodbye Apple, after 9 Years of Loyalty

[sean000]

Lmao. I'm not buying into that PR crap Apple wants to sell. They want you to believe that's true. Who knows it could be but it would be dumb for Apple to say hey you're right it failed.

The message prompted him to enter a passcode to enable faceID. You will get the same prompt for TouchID if you restart your iPhone. Of course you will also get that message if you fail TouchID too many times (happens to me frequently because apparently I have hard to read fingerprints).

It’s possible that FaceID can fail so fast that it will prompt you for a passcode without asking you to try again, but since it worked later in the presentation the most likely explanation is a restart (possibly a crash restart as well... my iPad does that a few times a week).

Anyway, I’m not saying FaceID is totally reliable, or that it didn’t totally fail during the presentation. TouchID has been hit or miss for me, so my expectations for FaceID aren’t that high.

Wait... 😀what was this thread about again? I know it wasn’t FaceID. Have we reached a point when all iPhone x related arguments end up with someone bringing up FaceID?
Sean

 

[Titleist]

Someone give me an S8 that runs iOS and has iPhone internals. Please. Thanks.

 

[SmugMaverick]

The X and 8 really are terrible, the worse phones I've seen in some time from a major company.

The 7 was pushing it but I got jet black because it looked slightly different from the 6/6S but the 8 is laughable

The X is not worth £999, not in a million years is it worth that much because everything on it is behind other phones.

And please don't give me animoji talk, I have fallen into the trap badly with iPad Pro, MacBook pro, apple tv and apple watch and I need to stand up against this terrible direction they're on and show it with my wallet.

My next phone...

 

[akash.nu]

The X and 8 really are terrible, the worse phones I've seen in some time from a major company.

The 7 was pushing it but I got jet black because it looked slightly different from the 6/6S but the 8 is laughable

The X is not worth £999, not in a million years is it worth that much because everything on it is behind other phones.

And please don't give me animoji talk, I have fallen into the trap badly with iPad Pro, MacBook pro, apple tv and apple watch and I need to stand up against this terrible direction they're on and show it with my wallet.

My next phone...

“Worth” is a relative term. Value of anything depends on individuals. For me 8 is solid upgrade from my 6 & the only reason I won’t get a X is too many new tech.

I don’t care about Android hardware spec. The experience is superior (again relative) on iOS. So you see, had I not have a choice for the 8, I’d have gone for X.

 

[ronincse]

Lmao. I'm not buying into that PR crap Apple wants to sell. They want you to believe that's true. Who knows it could be but it would be dumb for Apple to say hey you're right it failed.

Yup let's believe the one case of it not working, which has a plausible reason for it, and ignore all the other cases of it working great in the demo area when all the tech reporters were testing it. Obviously that one case is the real one and all the others are false, that's logical thinking there!
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The X and 8 really are terrible, the worse phones I've seen in some time from a major company.

The 7 was pushing it but I got jet black because it looked slightly different from the 6/6S but the 8 is laughable

The X is not worth £999, not in a million years is it worth that much because everything on it is behind other phones.

And please don't give me animoji talk, I have fallen into the trap badly with iPad Pro, MacBook pro, apple tv and apple watch and I need to stand up against this terrible direction they're on and show it with my wallet.

My next phone...

Eh the Pixels are great phones but let's not just blindly say they are perfect. The Pixel 2 XL actually has less screen to body ratio than the iPhone X, doesn't have wireless charging, doesn't have a headphone jack either (this doesn't actually matter to me), is only one camera, and really isn't that much cheaper than the X since it looks like it will start at $850.

Like I said it looks like it will be a great phone but don't pretend the iPhone X is terrible while claiming this one is some kind of miracle

 

[ACST]

The X and 8 really are terrible, the worse phones I've seen in some time from a major company.

The 7 was pushing it but I got jet black because it looked slightly different from the 6/6S but the 8 is laughable

The X is not worth £999, not in a million years is it worth that much because everything on it is behind other phones.

And please don't give me animoji talk, I have fallen into the trap badly with iPad Pro, MacBook pro, apple tv and apple watch and I need to stand up against this terrible direction they're on and show it with my wallet.

My next phone...

That looks even worse and is also gonna be above 900 dollars with already a worse processor than the 8 and probably a camera that's at highest the same in picture quality (which is the same as every other phone being released right now except for the essential phone which is worse).

So how is the iPhone X behind in every aspect to other phones? Oh yeah it isn't.

 

[millerj123]

Literally joined to say goodbye. I feel poked in a special spot.

These threads rock!

 

[SmugMaverick]

Tell me again why dual cameras are needed? If portrait mode is possible on the front cam of the X then why brag about dual cams? It's also a feature 80% of the world will never ever use like animoji.

I never said the Pixel 2 was better, it's just packed with superior OS features and an actual fast charging plug in the box, it's also a 6" screen compared to the fake 5.8" screen on the X and OLED panels from LG

The X has a worse OLED screen than the S8, V30 and Pixel 2, has a smaller battery, has no fast charging out the box, glitchy OS and just nothing in it is worth more than £700/$700 like others that are priced there.

It's an panic launch with half baked OS in reaction of everyone else upping the game and sales slowing down.

Nothing about wireless charging is new or amazing so lets not pretend everyone wants or uses it, pointless afterthought feature to make suckers buy the iPhone 6... I mean 8.

 

[nightcap965]

You made an account just to say goodbye?

Some people ghost, some people flounce out in high dudgeon and slam the door.

 

[Gathomblipoob]

Some people ghost, some people flounce out in high dudgeon and slam the door.

Fifteen minutes of fame.

Also, nice use of "high dudgeon." Hadn't heard that in a while.

 

[ronincse]

Tell me again why dual cameras are needed? If portrait mode is possible on the front cam of the X then why brag about dual cams? It's also a feature 80% of the world will never ever use like animoji.

I never said the Pixel 2 was better, it's just packed with superior OS features and an actual fast charging plug in the box, it's also a 6" screen compared to the fake 5.8" screen on the X and OLED panels from LG

The X has a worse OLED screen than the S8, V30 and Pixel 2, has a smaller battery, has no fast charging out the box, glitchy OS and just nothing in it is worth more than £700/$700 like others that are priced there.

It's an panic launch with half baked OS in reaction of everyone else upping the game and sales slowing down.

Nothing about wireless charging is new or amazing so lets not pretend everyone wants or uses it, pointless afterthought feature to make suckers buy the iPhone 6... I mean 8.

So you have personally tested the X screen against the Pixel's screen to say the Pixel has a better screen? Failing that you have found comparisons done online?

You can say a lot of the same stuff about the Pixel btw. Worse screen than other flag ships, bigger bezels, glitchy OS (Oreo has been pretty glitchy on the current Pixels), absolutely nothing in it to make it worth $850.

It isn't a panic launch but IMO it seems like kind of a half baked one which is sadly typical of Google lately. At least Apple totally redesigned the iPhone X vs the old models and gave it a new high profile feature, these new Pixels are just slight iterations of the previous generation.

Oh and let's not forget that these Pixels won't have wireless charging either despite the weird glass window on the back. Seems like a total wasted opportunity to me but what ever.

 

[sean000]

Tell me again why dual cameras are needed? If portrait mode is possible on the front cam of the X then why brag about dual cams? It's also a feature 80% of the world will never ever use like animoji.

Because an optical telephoto lens is better than digitally cropping to zoom. But won’t the Pixel 2XL have dual rear cameras?

Dual lenses and dual sensors can also combine data to increase dymanic range and resolution, while decreasing noise. Apple didn’t invent that though. The first phones I recall doing anything like that were made by Nokia. The iPhone X front camera does portrait lighting and probably some digital depth of field trickery, but it can’t match the rear dual cameras when it comes to combining pixels in order to create the shallow depth of field effect.

 

[ronincse]

Because an optical telephoto lens is better than digitally cropping to zoom. But won’t the Pixel 2XL have dual rear cameras?

Dual lenses and dual sensors can also combine data to increase dymanic range and resolution, while decreasing noise. Apple didn’t invent that though. The first phones I recall doing anything like that were made by Nokia. The iPhone X front camera does portrait lighting and probably some digital depth of field trickery, but it can’t match the rear dual cameras when it comes to combining pixels in order to create the shallow depth of field effect.

Nope the Pixels will continue to be single camera. Basically the entire phone has leaked at this point. Here is one of the latest leaks with renders: https://9to5google.com/2017/10/02/google-pixel-2-xl-staggered-release/

 

[Closingracer]

The message prompted him to enter a passcode to enable faceID. You will get the same prompt for TouchID if you restart your iPhone. Of course you will also get that message if you fail TouchID too many times (happens to me frequently because apparently I have hard to read fingerprints).

It’s possible that FaceID can fail so fast that it will prompt you for a passcode without asking you to try again, but since it worked later in the presentation the most likely explanation is a restart (possibly a crash restart as well... my iPad does that a few times a week).

Anyway, I’m not saying FaceID is totally reliable, or that it didn’t totally fail during the presentation. TouchID has been hit or miss for me, so my expectations for FaceID aren’t that high.

Wait... 😀what was this thread about again? I know it wasn’t FaceID. Have we reached a point when all iPhone x related arguments end up with someone bringing up FaceID?
Sean

Idk. I am all for it to succeed but I'm not buying into the Apple PR crap and never had. Don't really buy PR speak at all Tbh. I love my Note 8 but I also love ios devices and depending on if I can get a x at launch will be a deciding factor.


As far as the OP goes it was something about him saying Apple sucks? Idk really lol

 

[Closingracer]

The X and 8 really are terrible, the worse phones I've seen in some time from a major company.

The 7 was pushing it but I got jet black because it looked slightly different from the 6/6S but the 8 is laughable

The X is not worth £999, not in a million years is it worth that much because everything on it is behind other phones.

And please don't give me animoji talk, I have fallen into the trap badly with iPad Pro, MacBook pro, apple tv and apple watch and I need to stand up against this terrible direction they're on and show it with my wallet.

My next phone...

Meh even writing this on my Note 8 I can say I rather have my note 8 or the iPhone x over any Google pixel phone. Yeah they are good and I had one at launch but not a fan of those chins and honestly don't care for vanilla Android.

 

[Closingracer]

Yup let's believe the one case of it not working, which has a plausible reason for it, and ignore all the other cases of it working great in the demo area when all the tech reporters were testing it. Obviously that one case is the real one and all the others are false, that's logical thinking there!
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Eh the Pixels are great phones but let's not just blindly say they are perfect. The Pixel 2 XL actually has less screen to body ratio than the iPhone X, doesn't have wireless charging, doesn't have a headphone jack either (this doesn't actually matter to me), is only one camera, and really isn't that much cheaper than the X since it looks like it will start at $850.

Like I said it looks like it will be a great phone but don't pretend the iPhone X is terrible while claiming this one is some kind of miracle

So? Case in point it failed at some point. I don't care about YouTube press reviews saying it works. More important is how it works in the field with the general public. My point is that we can't be so biased to say it will 100% work when we just don't know that.


Another case in point the Note 7 didn't blow up in the announcement nor did it when there was reviews of it by the press. They didn't start blowing up until it was released and at the end of August I think?

 

[sean000]

Nope the Pixels will continue to be single camera. Basically the entire phone has leaked at this point. Here is one of the latest leaks with renders: https://9to5google.com/2017/10/02/google-pixel-2-xl-staggered-release/

Ouch! Even the XL has just one sensor and lens? That would be a deal breaker for me. My primary reason for going to the X is to get dual cameras in an average phone size package.

 

[Closingracer]

That looks even worse and is also gonna be above 900 dollars with already a worse processor than the 8 and probably a camera that's at highest the same in picture quality (which is the same as every other phone being released right now except for the essential phone which is worse).

So how is the iPhone X behind in every aspect to other phones? Oh yeah it isn't.

Well I find it funny how many people want to bash the Snapdragon 835 as slow (it's not but it's slower) when it's basically a SOC that's already a year old and the A11 is brand new.... Maybe I should compare my Samsung 2017 7000 series TV to my old Vizio 1080p TV which I bought in 2013.... Makes sense right? That TV wasn't bad just wanted to get a 4k one.

 

[Closingracer]

Tell me again why dual cameras are needed? If portrait mode is possible on the front cam of the X then why brag about dual cams? It's also a feature 80% of the world will never ever use like animoji.

I never said the Pixel 2 was better, it's just packed with superior OS features and an actual fast charging plug in the box, it's also a 6" screen compared to the fake 5.8" screen on the X and OLED panels from LG

The X has a worse OLED screen than the S8, V30 and Pixel 2, has a smaller battery, has no fast charging out the box, glitchy OS and just nothing in it is worth more than £700/$700 like others that are priced there.

It's an panic launch with half baked OS in reaction of everyone else upping the game and sales slowing down.

Nothing about wireless charging is new or amazing so lets not pretend everyone wants or uses it, pointless afterthought feature to make suckers buy the iPhone 6... I mean 8.

I believe only 2 companies are making OLED screens for mobile devices in mass which is Samsung and recently LG. Rumors state Samsung is making the iPhone X screen. While the brightness doesn't even come close to the S8 1,000 nits or the note 8 1,200 nits with its 600 (640?) nits it's not going to be a bad screen. Will still get the amazing blacks and color.

 

[Dodgeman]

The X and 8 really are terrible, the worse phones I've seen in some time from a major company.

The 7 was pushing it but I got jet black because it looked slightly different from the 6/6S but the 8 is laughable

The X is not worth £999, not in a million years is it worth that much because everything on it is behind other phones.

And please don't give me animoji talk, I have fallen into the trap badly with iPad Pro, MacBook pro, apple tv and apple watch and I need to stand up against this terrible direction they're on and show it with my wallet.

My next phone...

Tell me again why dual cameras are needed? If portrait mode is possible on the front cam of the X then why brag about dual cams? It's also a feature 80% of the world will never ever use like animoji.

I never said the Pixel 2 was better, it's just packed with superior OS features and an actual fast charging plug in the box, it's also a 6" screen compared to the fake 5.8" screen on the X and OLED panels from LG

The X has a worse OLED screen than the S8, V30 and Pixel 2, has a smaller battery, has no fast charging out the box, glitchy OS and just nothing in it is worth more than £700/$700 like others that are priced there.

It's an panic launch with half baked OS in reaction of everyone else upping the game and sales slowing down.

Nothing about wireless charging is new or amazing so lets not pretend everyone wants or uses it, pointless afterthought feature to make suckers buy the iPhone 6... I mean 8.

So you have personally tested the X screen against the Pixel's screen to say the Pixel has a better screen? Failing that you have found comparisons done online?

You can say a lot of the same stuff about the Pixel btw. Worse screen than other flag ships, bigger bezels, glitchy OS (Oreo has been pretty glitchy on the current Pixels), absolutely nothing in it to make it worth $850.

It isn't a panic launch but IMO it seems like kind of a half baked one which is sadly typical of Google lately. At least Apple totally redesigned the iPhone X vs the old models and gave it a new high profile feature, these new Pixels are just slight iterations of the previous generation.

Oh and let's not forget that these Pixels won't have wireless charging either despite the weird glass window on the back. Seems like a total wasted opportunity to me but what ever.

The last Pixel I wasn’t a big fan of. These comments just solidify my decision to switch from Apple and probably to an S8+

 

[Dopestar]

I don't have much to say in this letter, not even sure if this is the right place to post. I've bought almost every model of iPhone from the iPhone 3 in 2008, and loved mostly every experience of it.. until now. It seems everything's going to hell with Apple. I'll be searching for a downgrade of a phone, but I will no longer support this company, even if it means a worse phone experience.



I am still in shock from the release of the iPhone 8, and X. I feel like someone I was in a trustworthy relationship over a long period of time stabbed me in the back and walked away. I guess It's my fault for letting myself get attached to a company.



iPhone X isn't perfect. It is flawed, and Apple, if you truly think it's appropriate to ask your community to "get used to" or adjust to the akward black bevel on your "borderless screen" that.. by the way blocks videos and makes the experience inconvenient for an outstanding price you're wrong.



and about the iPhone 8.. well it's nothing special compared to the iPhone 6s. They're basically the same, with some small upgrades. Not worth the price.

What are your guys opinions about apples recent decisions? Am I the only one?

reminds me of Blackberry, same iterations with minor specs a little touch up on the form factor.....

 

[decafjava]

reminds me of Blackberry, same iterations with minor specs a little touch up on the form factor.....

"MInor specs"? I think not.

 

[PhoneI]

Tell me again why dual cameras are needed? If portrait mode is possible on the front cam of the X then why brag about dual cams? It's also a feature 80% of the world will never ever use like animoji.

I never said the Pixel 2 was better, it's just packed with superior OS features and an actual fast charging plug in the box, it's also a 6" screen compared to the fake 5.8" screen on the X and OLED panels from LG

The X has a worse OLED screen than the S8, V30 and Pixel 2, has a smaller battery, has no fast charging out the box, glitchy OS and just nothing in it is worth more than £700/$700 like others that are priced there.

It's an panic launch with half baked OS in reaction of everyone else upping the game and sales slowing down.

Nothing about wireless charging is new or amazing so lets not pretend everyone wants or uses it, pointless afterthought feature to make suckers buy the iPhone 6... I mean 8.

And your opinion is based on 0.0 minutes of actual usage. You are funny.

 

[ronincse]

So? Case in point it failed at some point. I don't care about YouTube press reviews saying it works. More important is how it works in the field with the general public. My point is that we can't be so biased to say it will 100% work when we just don't know that.


Another case in point the Note 7 didn't blow up in the announcement nor did it when there was reviews of it by the press. They didn't start blowing up until it was released and at the end of August I think?

Again I have to ask why it failing once matters to you but it actually working with real people who aren't working for Apple doesn't?

No one says it works 100% of the time and I agree it only matters how well it works in real life. No matter the case using the one example of what happened on stage is disingenuous.

 

[Knowimagination]

Tell me again why dual cameras are needed? If portrait mode is possible on the front cam of the X then why brag about dual cams? It's also a feature 80% of the world will never ever use like animoji.

I never said the Pixel 2 was better, it's just packed with superior OS features and an actual fast charging plug in the box, it's also a 6" screen compared to the fake 5.8" screen on the X and OLED panels from LG

The X has a worse OLED screen than the S8, V30 and Pixel 2, has a smaller battery, has no fast charging out the box, glitchy OS and just nothing in it is worth more than £700/$700 like others that are priced there.

Dual camera is a huge improvement over crop to zoom.

What I don't get about your comments is that you say the pixel has a 6" display unlike the fake 5.8" on the X. You do realize that the Pixel 2 XL is going to have an 18:9 screen which means it is a tall skinny 6" phone just like the 5.8" X right?

As to the quality of the screen I am quite confident that once panels are here for testing the iPhone panel will most likely be considered one of the best.