They don't need to, everyone gave up their info to Facebook and Google a long time ago.
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Google and Other Suppliers Begin Cutting Off Huawei Following U.S. Trade Ban
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Huawei already have their own OS for the phones. All they need is to port a couple of the usual apps that people use (FB, Insta, WA, Netflix, Snapchat). How many people who don't give a hoot about privacy but just want a cheap phone to blast their life onto the internet with above apps are going to bite?
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Most people in the West are incredibly stupid. They'll just use the WhatsApp app on the phone.
If it works, they don't care.
They didn't care when they signed up to Google and Facebook.
Huawei just needs to display a huge banner on every startup that says "Your data is secure, we promise".
People believe what they want to be true.
And in Africa, they have no choice. Nobody buys an iPhone there, unless they're really rich.
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Most people in the West are incredibly stupid. They'll just use the WhatsApp app on the phone.
If it works, they don't care.
They didn't care when they signed up to Google and Facebook.
Huawei just needs to display a huge banner on every startup that says "Your data is secure, we promise".
People believe what they want to be true.
And in Africa, they have no choice. Nobody buys an iPhone there, unless they're really rich.
It's just like most things the government investigates especially concerning national security matters.
Giving the evidence would eventually give away sources. People can either believe or not believe the government.
What next..? An all outright ban on Windows,Android and Apple to all Chinese in China for retail and manufacturing..?
I don’t think this is right as provocative measures along with incitement lead to ugly trade wars and in trade wars there really are no winners as both sides suffer losses. In the end the consumer pays the consequences
Fat's in the fire now. I can't decide whether this is good or bad. Hopefully the PRC will see reason in that even if tariffs are removed their government's unfair trade practices are giving the PRC a bad reputation, and they might well face a consumer boycott in the West.
Don't you mean by building our reverse-engineered tech, for their own use? That's been just about the only way they've "invented" anything beyond a bottle rocket.
What can we expect from this (stupidity), my friend just bought one the other day, will he and millions here (Europe) be affected by this?
This is a fun story to follow.
The world changes. China becomes big and is communist.
The European idiots are completely surrendering China and will become an communist protectorate.
Wonder what my American friends will do, if they will save Europe again.
Russia will fall first, or doesn’t matter anyways because they are just to primitive to survive.
Wonder what will happen to Africa?
The world changes. China becomes big and is communist.
The European idiots are completely surrendering China and will become an communist protectorate.
Wonder what my American friends will do, if they will save Europe again.
Russia will fall first, or doesn’t matter anyways because they are just to primitive to survive.
Wonder what will happen to Africa?
The fact that you don’t think Google isn’t doing equivalent wrong is very worrisome. Google and Facebook are the real enemies to American people.
The US shared its intelligence information with the UK and they concluded our claims didn't have merit.
https://www.rollcall.com/news/policy/u-k-s-may-reportedly-approves-huawei-5g-despite-u-s-warning
chinese companies have a much more established presence in africa than any western companies, oppo and other smaller players even manufacture their phones there, not to mention cars and railroads built by the chinese govt.
as for europe, huawei is one of the top sellers there, alot of folks there using honor or mate 20 pro. i was surprised myself.
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that used to be the case but chinese tech are quite up there now, even surpassing west in multi fields. the oh they can only copy and produce cheap stuffs and not invent used to be the saying for japanese goods back in the 70s and 80s. but now the tech in asia has surpassed many westerns, how can you steal something that they dont even have?
And we've done the same thing. Furthermore, we are fine propping up some warlord who keeps things profitable for us, but when we don't like how others are conducting their business, we simply swoop in and "bring democracy." We don't give a hoot about others' laws, and given our sudden need to charge money for someone to request asylum (upending centuries of international practice) we don't have any right to whine now about, frankly, ANY foreign actor.
Do we have to get into that? The concept of intellectual property couldn't be any more outdated. Apple itself is built on "stolen" IP anyway.
After that UN WMD show that Powell putted unfortunately (i say that because in the end the USA is an completely incomparable country to something like Russia or China) the USA's word is not worth much.
And that is one of the reasons why not a single European country cared much about this Huawei thing. Not even the UK. Of course knowing for a fact that the USA was the country that indeed tapped European phones and listened to elected people of allied countries didn't help a lot.
There must be another Trump project that needs a loan.
Quid Pro Quo
https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...ons-to-trump-organization-tied-project-2018-5
Within three days of the Chinese government agreeing to provide $500 million in loans to an Indonesian theme park that the Trump Organization has a deal to license President Donald Trump's name to, the president stunningly ordered sanctions be rescinded against a major Chinese telecom company.
As AFP reported via the South China Morning Post last week, the developer of that project just outside of Jakarta had secured the half billion in funding, in addition to another $500 million from Chinese banks, 72 hours before Trump's Sunday tweet on the Chinese telecom company ZTE. Trump's family business has a deal with that developer to include the Trump name on the resort, which also includes hotels and a golf course.
"President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast," Trump tweeted Sunday. "Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!"
He added another tweet on the subject Monday, saying that ZTE "buys a big percentage of individual parts from U.S. companies."
"This is also reflective of the larger trade deal we are negotiating with China and my personal relationship with President Xi," he wrote.
Quid Pro Quo
https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...ons-to-trump-organization-tied-project-2018-5
Within three days of the Chinese government agreeing to provide $500 million in loans to an Indonesian theme park that the Trump Organization has a deal to license President Donald Trump's name to, the president stunningly ordered sanctions be rescinded against a major Chinese telecom company.
As AFP reported via the South China Morning Post last week, the developer of that project just outside of Jakarta had secured the half billion in funding, in addition to another $500 million from Chinese banks, 72 hours before Trump's Sunday tweet on the Chinese telecom company ZTE. Trump's family business has a deal with that developer to include the Trump name on the resort, which also includes hotels and a golf course.
"President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast," Trump tweeted Sunday. "Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!"
He added another tweet on the subject Monday, saying that ZTE "buys a big percentage of individual parts from U.S. companies."
"This is also reflective of the larger trade deal we are negotiating with China and my personal relationship with President Xi," he wrote.
Yep, but I'm not talking about that, but the fact that US spies on their citizens aswell and you're so happy China won't be able to do it.This is exactly why China is setting up their own banking system and PetroYuan for international trade as the US Banking system poses a national security threat for their international trade and their own national security. They can not allow a foreign like Trump to come along and just sign off on a paper which cripples their manufacturing,trade or banking. China has a lot of things that they are wrong on but also has a lot of things they are right on. It goes both ways depending on which one chooses to look at.
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Some Chinese also felt the same way which is why Google,Facebook.Whatsapp,Instagram amongst a few others were not allowed in China
Who knows how much information was shared.
My point still stands that the US government is not going to supply evidence especially on subjects that they deem national security where sources can be compromised.
You either believe them or you don't.
Maybe there’s a misunderstanding, what do you mean by “you’re so happy China won’t be able to do it”?
The same goes for Windows. Remember the NSA private key in windows?
The UK is our closest ally and within the inner circle who we share our most sensitive intelligence information. If they saw nothing from America's intelligence agencies to be concerned about for their own security then that tells me who to believe.
great news!
so more competition in the end. another OS. maybe from samsung too!
so more competition in the end. another OS. maybe from samsung too!
You're being disingenuous.
The countries you listed, while not outright banning Huawei, still question the security of their equipment and are looking at methods to mitigate potential risks.
You also left out the countries that do currently ban Huawei.