Could you provide some of the evidence? To be clear I'm not saying Huawei aren't doing anything but there is a lack of evidence however with what Snowden brought to the public we do have evidence that the U.S. and the UK are definitely at it.
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Could you provide some of the evidence? To be clear I'm not saying Huawei aren't doing anything but there is a lack of evidence however with what Snowden brought to the public we do have evidence that the U.S. and the UK are definitely at it.
Some good news and perhaps some partial relief for some Huawei customers
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-operating-idUSKCN1SQ27T?utm_source=applenews
The most interesting or mind boggling part is aside from all this news and BS that was reported by the media and Bills that was signed by Trump there really is no solid concrete evidence showing any of the new smartphones that Huawei made were real security risks.. Someone just wanted revenge at Huawei. I reckon this will upset many Chinese nationalists and patriots which will start boycotting US made products.
https://www.engadget.com/2019/05/20/is-huawei-really-screwed-without-android/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-operating-idUSKCN1SQ27T?utm_source=applenews
The most interesting or mind boggling part is aside from all this news and BS that was reported by the media and Bills that was signed by Trump there really is no solid concrete evidence showing any of the new smartphones that Huawei made were real security risks.. Someone just wanted revenge at Huawei. I reckon this will upset many Chinese nationalists and patriots which will start boycotting US made products.
https://www.engadget.com/2019/05/20/is-huawei-really-screwed-without-android/
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At some point in time they had to retaliate regardless of the price they have to pay if they don’t want to „loose their face“. I am astonished that MacRumors is not more into this story because this could mean the end of the 2019 iPhone lineup. Here in Germany the news channels are already speculating about that....
I own both a Huawei P30 Pro and an iPhone 8 Plus. I like them both. They are different and each has its advantages over the other just as Apple MacBooks and Windows based PC’s/Laptops have their differences. They will continue to support. I reckon Google has to keep some sort of support for previously sold devices which they already collected money on. People that bought a smartphone with an OS of which Huawei paid Google for would make one think that they are obliged and obligated to continue to offer service for those devices.Can I get a show of hands on who will buy a Huawei phone with a Huawei OS and marketplace?
Without Google they're ****ed in western countries IMO.
https://www.engadget.com/2019/05/20/is-huawei-really-screwed-without-android/
Unless something changes though, that will not apply to new handsets in short order.
They can keep using AOSP, but no bundled Google services and most of all no Play Store. Would you trust a reworked or regurgitated apk from Huawei? I wouldn't, but I have access to non-public info sources.
EDIT: "but," not "and"
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I will be honest with you. I trust Apple over Windows and Apple over Google. For those that that wonder why WhatsApp other are not allowed in China here is a new article about WhatsApp
https://www.androidauthority.com/whatsapp-vs-telegram-security-988219/
Between Huawei and Google I don’t think there is an innocent angel amongst the two of them. Google’s Gmail can read personal emails and pass info over to others just as I would assume Huawei’s could as well.
What this boils down to is a fight between China and the US over who can access info from others and whom can’t
Anyone here know what Huawei pays Google for licensing fee for each smartphone..? Assume it is $40 as I article below. If Huawei sold 200 million phones last year do the numbers on that. Now I know in China they don’t run Google Play store so the amount will most likely be less but even if sales amount were half in China and half abroad with half without Google Play Store and half with the number that is no small number. Huawei numbers to Google and Microsoft are in the Billions every year.
https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2018/10/19/17999366/google-eu-android-licensing-terms
This could be what starts to trigger the next recession in the US. Trade war with China along with tariffs will lead to a recession I reckon
https://www.newsweek.com/us-china-trade-war-morgan-stanley-bank-america-global-recession-1430590
https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2018/10/19/17999366/google-eu-android-licensing-terms
This could be what starts to trigger the next recession in the US. Trade war with China along with tariffs will lead to a recession I reckon
https://www.newsweek.com/us-china-trade-war-morgan-stanley-bank-america-global-recession-1430590
I think the issue is part political + protectionism since companies like Apple don't like being surpassed by Chinese competitor + potential risk of espionage which can mostly be mitigated by partnering with Google as Android One/Pixel devices running pure Google Android. My personal experience with Huawei has been very positive for hardware and value but not a fan of EMUI software (much prefer Moto flavor if not pure Google Android). In the end, it's all about the greater cause and with supposed PLA ties, military build up and bullying of Asian neighbors I'm ok with having one fewer purchasing option as a consumer. Is moving manufacturing away from China to allied/friendlier countries the next step?
I reckon China can use precedent to aid their case, too. Given Trump hasn't been the only President, liberal or conservative, to force China's hand and damage their own economy.
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The Indians already do. What's your point? China has invested billions, to the tune of $60B in Africa in recent years, rivaling the US's investments. Africa is a rich resource for raw materials. To say China will have African leaders by their balls in the next half decade is an understatement. Prior to the recent surge in investments, China invested more than $75B in a 9 year span for aid and economic development.
It's economic colonialism, and China is relying on that for these leaders, who'll never be capable of paying back China for their help, to rely on China in future. China invests in any and all countries that don't like the US much, which is a large list.
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Yes, some new watch bands will come in the coming months.
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It’s hilarious seeing people making claims as this trade ban benefited Apple. Apple got hit as well with the import tariffs. So the notion of how this is to benefit Apple is not only ludicrous, it’s simply dumb.
gasp since samsung is doing the exact same thing for wearables does that mean they will get a ban soon?
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You are right, China uses money, American's use missile strikes. Pick your drug of choice lol
One possibility is this triggering another Linux based phone OS. A possible scenario would be Huawei releasing its own OS and other Chinese manufacturers utilizing it for the Chinese market initially. Subsequently China can ban Android as a 'security risk', forcing the likes of Samsung to utilize their own OS (Tizen etc) in China. They can even share an application platform. It is not a coincidence that Huawei and Samsung made nice just last week. Finally, as the platform matures, it will spread outside of China. There are already monopoly concerns about Google in Europe.
Good call from Google and the other suppliers for putting their business deals on hold. You see, they can't afford to be seen to do business with...whatever it is Huawei is accused of being. I'm sure businesses of that stature will understand.
Care to elaborate?
Independent sources please.
Looking forward to your reply
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You mean,
private company that is collecting and selling people’s , and companies, private information to governments and companies, for profit,
should not be seen to do a business with a company which allegedly
collects private and companies informations to give them to the government.
I see your point.
Exactely THIS, and Huawei just signed an anti-spying agreement in the UK six days ago:
https://www.teiss.co.uk/news/huawei-non-spy-agreement-britain/
But hey, Donald Trump is still scared
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Independent sources for government investigations? You're one of those conspiracy guys, aren't you.
$11 Billion in 1 Year is a huge loss for companies in the US. That would hit earnings and stock prices
https://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-huawei-supply-chain-software-hardware-backup-20190520-story.html
https://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-huawei-supply-chain-software-hardware-backup-20190520-story.html
You said:
“Not true. There has been plenty of evidence”
You should have said:
“Not true. Although they are not showing us any, the government said they have plenty of evidence and I believe them”
There. I fixed it for you.
I'd like to see that play out. I don't think they'll do as well.
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You've skipped Huawei's long history and present of copying American products. They even stole router software from Cisco on physical media. I like that we trade with China but would like the worst possible things to happen to Huawei. And Chinese software companies already live under protectionism in a country where all the big foreign websites are banned, so it's not like we're being unfair, nor does it make sense to tolerate their government's behavior in that space.
Also, 5G is a different issue. Our cell companies suck, and also nobody cares about 5G anyway when we don't even have good 4G yet.
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The "loosing one's face"-issue is real, sort of.
It's true that it would be difficult to build the iPhone at scale outside of China. Difficult but not impossible.