No palm copied apples multi touch trackpad and gestures before going out of business.
That’s why the first palm pre had a gesture/trackpad area below the display to initiate multitasking, they copied apple.
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No palm copied apples multi touch trackpad and gestures before going out of business.
That’s why the first palm pre had a gesture/trackpad area below the display to initiate multitasking, they copied apple.
From Google:
"Exploitation for many issues on Android is made more difficult by enhancements in newer versions of the Android platform. We encourage all users to update to the latest version of Android where possible."
So you get App updates. Fantastic. But you DON'T get the latest security mitigations.
Go back and read my post.
I never said palm copied apples Magic Trackpad. But they did copy what the Magic Trackpad was based on.
Did you not read what I said or are your apple blinders on? Omg some of you apple fans are overbearing. The person I replied to said many wont get the new feature in maps. All I said that isn't true, persons on older people versions of android likely will.
Did I mention anything about security updates? My God you guys just use every opportunity to defend apple.
Okay, fair enough. However, the timeline still doesn't support your claim.
The first MacBook with touch gestures, which the Magic Trackbased was based on, came out in 2008. The Palm Pre came out in 2009.
So you're saying Palm built and mass-produced a smartphone with UI based on gestures that the MacBook had in less than a year's time? Do you know how long products are in the R&D and prototyping phase until they actually become products?
Now your apple blinders are on? Please show where I said I dont like Apple. I love the iPad. Best tablet on the market for years and I dont see any other manufacturers coming close anytime soon. I guess I need to love every single product and defend apple no matter what like you right? I'm not a sheep sorry.
Google said today they had 2.5 billion active devices. Apple had 900 million active iPhones in Jan 2019, so it's likely gone up slightly since then. Using the 900 million figure the market share split is: 73.5% Android and 26.5% iOS. Add in iPads and that figure tilts more in Apples favor.
The 85/15% is a myth because people are missing one key point: they're taking device sales and assuming that's the same as active users. It's not. Android has been selling over a billion devices a year for years now. Why don't we have 6 billion active Android users? Because a LOT of those devices are low-end phones for $50 that get thrown out and replaced much more often than an iPhone. That's why active users for Android is so much lower than device sales.
If we take the 10.4% for Pie we get 260 million devices (phones or tablets) total on the latest Android version. iOS devices are at 80% adoption for iOS 12. If we look at iPhones alone that gives us 720 million devices on iOS 12. It's not even close with Apple having almost 3x as many iPhones on iOS 12 vs Android devices on Pie. Again, if we add in iPads it looks even worse.
Simple math bud.
yes, 4 people. will you be here all week?
i'm aware, and yet your sun reference is just as stupid with any meaning of the word shade))
nice try with the save though.
Jon Rubenstein was a senior engineer at Apple (worked on the iPod) who moved to Palm and was later in charge of the Palm Pre and webOS. One of the features on the Palm was the multitasking "cards" that people claim the iPhone X copied (where your Apps look like cards you can swipe between).
Except that Apple had Cover Flow for album art before Palm had the Pre. So Palm actually copied Apple and slightly tweaked Cover Flow to use it for showing Apps instead of album covers.
Changes things a bit when you find out a senior engineer at Apple went to Palm and took some ideas with him.
Except that Apple had Cover Flow for album art before Palm had the Pre. So Palm actually copied Apple and slightly tweaked Cover Flow to use it for showing Apps instead of album covers.
Changes things a bit when you find out a senior engineer at Apple went to Palm and took some ideas with him.
LMAO, so Google said 2.5 billion active devices and you're gonna say we are missing one key point that Google is lying and is taking devices shipped? Haha
Your key point is WRONG.
"Since the number is based on Google’s Play Store statistics, it doesn’t include non-Play Store forks like Amazon’s Fire OS or most of China’s Android devices. Google made the announcement as part of the launch of Android Q beta 3."
The 2.5 billion devices are ACTIVELY being used on the play store. Not to mention this number doesnt include most of China, the country with the world's largest population where android holds 73% market share AND doesnt include the best selling android tablet, Kindle Fire. Marketshare is probably more like 90/10.
Simple math bud.
Apple has been working on AR maps for the better part of a decade now...
Their first public glimpse of considering AR (extrapolate from there as technology has advanced) is from 2011. The major revamp of mapping data (which google will always be ahead of given they bought and operate the Keyhole satellite program for the DoD) Apple is doing is clearly to make sure that AR maps is done properly from their perspective.
https://www.patentlyapple.com/paten...s-compass-feature-with-augmented-reality.html
There is no “miss” here, there’s the understanding that when it goes live there’s nearly a billion devices that will have to support it adequately. I’m confident that every device Apple launches it on will run it properly. Android...maybe just flagship devices unless all the processing is going to be done in the cloud...which I wouldn’t trust Google with at all.
Real artists ship. Airpower.
Sorry no more passes for Apple on what's on the pipeline etc, is there Apple Maps AR now? No. The fact is Apple used to be ahead of everyone else by 2-3 years, now they are behind and in some cases even fail to deliver.
Android devices attached to third party ecosystems don't count. For the simple reason there's no crossover to devices that connect to Google Play and they contribute ZERO to the Android ecosystem. They are nothing more than "feature phones" that happen to run a forked/customized version of Android.
But hey, I know you guys like to count them because you desperately need to chalk up a win. Just like you always like to add the total number of Android phones (including all those $50 phones) to claim Android is doing better. It's as stupid as saying Ford is selling more cars than Ferrari, therefore Ford is better.
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Uh, you realize your link shows the split for April 2019 at 73% Android and 27% iOS, right?
Did you even look at the data before posting that link? Because you literally proved my numbers as being correct (I said 72.5% and 26.5%).
One thing comes to mind.
Google announced 2.5 billion active android devices.
Apple has 1.4 billion active devices and over 900 million active iphones.
Where are we getting 11% market share for iphones and 89% android market share? Wouldn’t this be closer to 30-40% market share for iphones? Or are there a ton of android smartphones collecting dust in a drawer somewhere?
Google announced 2.5 billion active android devices.
Apple has 1.4 billion active devices and over 900 million active iphones.
Where are we getting 11% market share for iphones and 89% android market share? Wouldn’t this be closer to 30-40% market share for iphones? Or are there a ton of android smartphones collecting dust in a drawer somewhere?
What? Lmao better stop while you're behind. China banned the playstore because Google wouldn't sensor stuff. How does that make the phones that run android not android anymore? If you buy a S10 in China you can't access the playstore without a workaround. So I guess all the latest android phones in China including the Samsung s10 is just a feature phone. Got it.
The kindle doesnt count although it runs android...got it.
Ford market cap is 41 billion, Ferrari is 25 billion. Give me Ford any day over Ferrari please. Lmao. Just digging your grave deeper.
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Honestly not sure how much active devices apple has. But that 2.5 billion devices does not include most android devices in china... which android has its biggest market in...or is it India. Hmm.
Not much off my iPhone.
I subscribe to the sites to which I go most frequently that allow it. Many others I get through Apple News and News+. I use safari with its ad blocking and anti-tracking features enabled.
I use DuckDuckGo for searching, Apple Maps, and do not use gmail. I am sure there is some leakage, but it is minimal.
I never heard that argument and it sounds kind of silly. I mean if we are going to stretch things by that much, then cover flow copied Xerox Parc because the square albums are graphical representation of objects.
I think there is real merit behind Palm's implementation and even if there was some sort of inspiration, there is no way it can be called "copying".
It also kills me Apple stubbornly forced that ridiculous dock-icon multitasking implementation until iOS7. It seems that it took a while for Apple to make a connection between their cover flow "invention" and applying it to multitasking, and realizing it was a superior UX? This shows you that the connection between cover flow and multitasking, if there is such a thing, isn't obvious.
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I asked a similar question below, having missed your response, and I think it makes sense. Apple supports their devices for quite a period of time, while android smartphones are more of “buy and throw away” due to their low prices.
It would also go a long way towards explaining why the iOS App Store is able to generate more revenue than the google play store. The discrepancy in actual market share is likely nowhere near as drastic as the critics are making it out to be, and on top of that, Apple has aggregated the best customers. So it’s a double whammy.
Pretty sure I started using gestures with a PowerBook either with panther or tiger.
Two finger gestures started on the Mac in 2005 and 4 finger gestures started in January 2008.
The palm pre was launched in June 2009.
Two years after the iPhone debuted with a multitouch display.
Built and mass produced is stretching it, they launched with one carrier in the us.
2 years for a half baked os that barely worked and bankrupted the company. Yes that happened.
palm pre sold about 400,000 units before it bankrupted the company. Yes complete amateur hour.
I know palm; had a palm pre, palm treo, handspring treo, palm tungsten,palm V , palm III, the first palm with us robotics logo. Think I almost had all of them.
If you look at the premium segment apples marketshare surpasses androids, it’s not even close.
