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Like the original iPhone that did not offer 3G, nor MMS? Standard features at the time. How about the iPod that did not have WiFi like the Zune? Apple has always been about integration, not about being best in any one category.

That said, I think Apple knows they need to improve in A.I., hence their replacing the team’s leadership and elevating their new A.I. person to their executive team. Siri shortcuts added a lot of functionality that was missing for me. I hope to see more new features in iOS 13. (I would like to have multi-user support on HomePod and better context awareness in general - those are probably my biggest requests for Siri right now.)

They were not standard features at the time, 3G wasn't widely used by most countries until mid 2007. MMS I don't believe was a thing until 2008 or 2009. We see where Zune is now don't we...

I'd love to see Siri improvement as long as it doesn't come at the cost of our privacy, I will never make that trade-off. Not sure there's any coming back in trusting Google after all they've done with consumer privacy.
 
I REALLY wish Siri worked as well as Google's AI does...

I mean, this is legit embarrassing for Apple.
I'm not sure if it's possible for Siri to work as well. Google knows everything there is to know about you and collects all that information. Siri has always minimized what it sends to Apple's servers, doing whatever processing it can on the phone. Siri anonymizes its queries, so nothing can be traced back to you. When Siri has no context except what it can find on the phone, it isn't possible for it to do better than a system that's dedicated to gathering as much as it can about you. Google knows where you were three years ago on a specific date. It knows where you went shopping two years ago. It knows what restaurant you went to six months ago. Siri... it knows nothing about you, except what it finds on the phone.

Apple's privacy policies hamstring it in a significant way. You have to decide what's more important to you, your privacy or convenience. Amazon Alexa and Google Voice Assistant will always have the edge on Siri because those two companies shamelessly collect your data. Remember, you are the product when you use either of those two. That's why only Siri is allowed in my house. Sure it's not as good, but it's not reporting everything that happens in my house to Apple either.

It remains to be seen if Google's all-on-phone works as well as it does in a demo.
 
400 dollars Google Phone with same camera and headphone jack is a winner in my book.

something I wish iPhone XE would be lowering its price to at some point.
At those prices, I am tempted to pick one up. My concern is the ability to switch back and forth between it and my iPhone XS Max. I'm not opening a second line, but if it is a painless SIM swap, I will give it a shot.
 
Won’t turn by turn instructions cover both your scenarios?

You mean what we have available now? Maybe, but the point of AR is to make so much easier to orient yourself; haven't you found yourself sometimes trying to reconcile what the map is showing with where you are?

For example what if the business name or number isn't clearly visible, but if you have the phone with AR showing a huge arrow pointing to the building, you can easily identify it.
 
They were not standard features at the time, 3G wasn't widely used by most countries until mid 2007. MMS I don't believe was a thing until 2008 or 2009. We see where Zune is now don't we...

I'd love to see Siri improvement as long as it doesn't come at the cost of our privacy, I will never make that trade-off. Not sure there's any coming back in trusting Google after all they've done with consumer privacy.
Yes, MMS was mildly wide spread in 2007. I had it on BlackBerry.
 
Google just destroyed Apple with Google AR maps, this is truly helpful and one of the most useful applications of AR I've ever seen, I've actually thought about this in the past.

I don't understand how Tim Cook supposedly sees AR as the future and misses something like this?

Add this to the long list of things Apple is visionless these days.
Actually, Apple has been working on this very thing. I think it likely Apple has held off on deployment until their Maps dataset has been updated.
 
I believe that low cost Pixel is going to be a hit. What a bargain.

I really hope that will pressure Apple into offering something at that price point as well.
Apple doesn't participate in the low-end phone market, which is why they're profitable, so the answer to your question is no. They aren't going to make a phone like that. The Pixel 3a and 3aXL use low-cost parts, such as the Snapdragon 670 (top end phones will use the Snapdragon 855). A phone that uses the most up-to-date, top-end parts cannot be found for that price. Google doesn't sell phones to make money. They sell phones to gather your information. It's doubtful they make any money at all selling these phones.

The furthest Apple will go will be to use their top end parts on a smaller phone, like another SE. It's rumored there will be a 5.42" iPhone coming in 2020. It will likely be the size of an iPhone 5/5S but will have the latest tech. It will not be priced anywhere near the Pixel 3a.
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Or Apple should lift limitations to use Google assistant if user wants by default.
I doubt Apple would ever do that due to privacy concerns. Siri doesn't collect your info while Google does. Therefore Apple will never allow it to be the default. Even if this particular version of Google Assistant is designed to work on the phone, that doesn't mean it isn't still collecting all of your information it possibly can and sending it back to Google once your phone goes back online.
 
That’s why google assistant really isn’t a threat to Siri in its current incarnation. Take the Apple Watch for example. It brings Siri to my wrist, front and centre. It doesn’t matter (to the user) how good google assistant is if the user is never in a position to make use of it on iOS.

Absolutely. I also prefer using the raise-Watch-and-immediately-bark-command-at-Siri trick as opposed to having a spy device listening to all the things all the time... and having to yell across the room to invoke commands at it... although it could be more reliable than its current incarnation. I'm on a Series 3, hoping just CPU advances in a 5 may address the raise-to invoke Siri reliability.
 
Exactly. Nothing really interesting. Most of the sites that do live streams didn't have one for this years Google I/O. Maybe they knew in advance how boring it was going to be?

I find it interesting a lot of the architectural details of Android Q weren't brought up, especially since they are moving to be more like iOS in several key areas.
I've seen some previews on Android Q. Marques Brownlee has one up. So far, there isn't much to Q. I would think of Q as an iOS 12 where there aren't that many features in it. There are some screen changes. There is a screen recorder, finally, though it won't turn off until you reboot the phone. I would guess most of the changes in Q are under the hood.
 
When will they catch up with FaceID? I can’t imagine going back to the old days when I had to perform an action to log into or authenticate apps/websites on my phone.

Why would you want strangers to unlock your device with Face ID?

 
I agree 100%. Although I highly doubt that Apple would introduce a new phone at that low of a price point. I'm pretty critical of Android overall, but I hope the Pixel 3a is a hit.
Apple's idea of "budget" is $600 these days, if not more.
 
Let me put this into a bit better perspective for you.
In the UK, the XR starts at £749, if you have an old iPhone that’s valid then you can get up to £250 off so making the XR £499.

The new Pixel 3A starts from £399 without a trade in, so £100 less then an XR!
Or the bigger 3A starts from £469 without a trade in.
So if you only have had an Android phone and are looking to upgrade, the new Pixel 3A is hands down an utter bargain next to an iPhone XR, Apple’s cheapest iPhone from 2018. However you need to remember what the XR has, even if it does lack an OLED cough Apple cough..

The two phones aren’t comparable hardware wise, water resistant and wireless charging etc, but it will be interesting to see performance comparisons between the two.
The XR would slaughter the Pixel 3a, performance-wise. The Pixel 3a uses a far lesser Qualcomm 670 Snapdragon while high end Androids use the 855 Snapdragon. The Apple A12 processor used in the XR destroys the 855, let alone the 670. Androids also need about twice as much RAM as iPhones to get similar performance. The Pixel 3a has only 4GB of RAM. Typically Androids have 6GB or more. This phone is not meant to compete with Apple's phones. It's meant as a low-end to medium-end phone to compete against lesser Androids.
 
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The iPhone 7 lists for $449 (about $50 more), the iPhone XR is $449 with trade-in. I will be curious to compare the performance and specs of the three devices.
I was about to counter with the fact that the iPhone 7 is 3 year old phone (4? I can't remember), but you're right about the performance. Since the Pixel 3 has a mid-range processor I do wonder if it's on par or better than the iPhone 7.

To be fair, the iPhone Xr is $750 no matter which way you spin it. I don't think trade-in credit should be taken into account when assessing the price of a phone. And frankly you can get the Galaxy S10 at the same price ($750-800) and get a much better phone. I just don't know what Apple is doing these days.
 
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In the past I have been THE largest Apple Fanboy. I basically own one of every one of their products: iPhone, Apple Watch, Mac Pro, Macbook Pro, 3x 4k Apple TVs, etc., etc. My whole home is kitted out with Homekit...

BUT: even I am starting to get tempted away from Apple.

For me, it's on two fronts:

1. Mac Pro is terrible compared to modern workstations. If there isn't a good refresh of the Mac Pro this summer... I'm going to go back to Linux and get a 64 core AMD workstation for like $8k.

2. HomePod is terrible (and expensive). Google Home has invaded my house. It's in every room... and I use a Home Hub for my alarm clock.

I'm now starting to get tempted by even more Google stuff. A Nest doorbell would go well with all of my Google Home stuff... even the Pixel phones are starting to look like real alternatives to iPhones. I'm getting tired of paying $1k for a phone...

I honestly can't believe I'm writing this post right now. But Google has out Apple'd Apple. The reason I am with Apple is because of the ecosystem. I like it when all of my things work together seamlessly. In the past Apple was great at that. But now.... it's looking like Google is even better at it than Apple...
 
Apple delivered marzipan last year.
If they can compete they will, if they can’t...
Wrong. Apple announced Marzipan last year and stated specifically they were "dog-fooding" internally before official release to developers this year.
 
The XR would slaughter the Pixel 3a, performance-wise. The Pixel 3a uses a far lesser Qualcomm 670 Snapdragon while high end Androids use the 855 Snapdragon. The Apple A12 processor used in the XR destroys the 855, let alone the 670. Androids also need about twice as much RAM as iPhones to get similar performance. The Pixel 3a has only 4GB of RAM. Typically Androids have 6GB or more. This phone is not meant to compete with Apple's phones. It's meant as a low-end to medium-end phone to compete against lesser Androids.
On the flip side of that argument, I would say that the iPhone Xr is competing with phones two-thirds of its price. Because it certainly is not competitive where the Android offerings its price point. The only thing it has going for it is it's silicon, and frankly in 2019 even mid-range processor offerings are plenty enough for what people do with their phones. Apples chips are, tragically, not used to their full potentials.
 
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They were not standard features at the time, 3G wasn't widely used by most countries until mid 2007. MMS I don't believe was a thing until 2008 or 2009. We see where Zune is now don't we...

Here is an article from January of 2007 talking about both of those issues. My Sony T68i supported MMS in 2002. My Nokia N80 supported 3G in 2005. The article I referenced about the iPhone’s announcement was one of many that attacked it as a toy because it lacked those features. There are many other examples of other Apple devices that shipped without features that were common on others products at the time (Adobe’s Flash as another example).

I'd love to see Siri improvement as long as it doesn't come at the cost of our privacy, I will never make that trade-off. Not sure there's any coming back in trusting Google after all they've done with consumer privacy.

Completely agree.
 
Sure, we all want the best. Sometimes we even NEED the best. But do we NEED the best phone hardware? Alternatively, would 'less than the best' - with a commensurate price reduction - be 'good enough'?
Nobody needs a phone. It's a nice-to-have. As for whether we WANT the best hardware, that's for the individual to decide. If you'd rather have a lower price, by all means get a low-end Android. It will make calls and surf the web just fine. The nice part is that there is a lot to choose from.

Apple doesn't participate in the market the 3a is targeted at. There's no profits to be made in the low-end phone market. Only high end phones make any money, which is why Apple doesn't bother with those other markets. Samsung, for instance, has all kinds of phones from the low-end to the high-end. But only the Galaxy phones make any money for Samsung. The rest are only sold for marketshare.
 
Google just destroyed Apple with Google AR maps, this is truly helpful and one of the most useful applications of AR I've ever seen, I've actually thought about this in the past.

I don't understand how Tim Cook supposedly sees AR as the future and misses something like this?

Add this to the long list of things Apple is visionless these days.
Apple has been working on AR maps for the better part of a decade now...

Their first public glimpse of considering AR (extrapolate from there as technology has advanced) is from 2011. The major revamp of mapping data (which google will always be ahead of given they bought and operate the Keyhole satellite program for the DoD) Apple is doing is clearly to make sure that AR maps is done properly from their perspective.

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There is no “miss” here, there’s the understanding that when it goes live there’s nearly a billion devices that will have to support it adequately. I’m confident that every device Apple launches it on will run it properly. Android...maybe just flagship devices unless all the processing is going to be done in the cloud...which I wouldn’t trust Google with at all.
 
I was about to counter with the fact that the iPhone 7 is 3 year old phone (4? I can't remember), but you're right about the performance. Since the Pixel 3 has a mid-range processor I do wonder if it's on par or better than the iPhone 7.

To be fair, the iPhone Xr is $750 no matter which way you spin it. I don't think trade-in credit should be taken into account when assessing the price of a phone. And frankly you can get the Galaxy S10 at the same price ($750-800) and get a much better phone. I just don't know what Apple is doing these days.

Are you really claiming the pixel or s10 will sell more than the xr.

Apple is doing fine.
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Ptemium amartphone market, apple kind of owns it.
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Curious what reviews will be like. Apple’s gross margins have stayed the same (even though a larger share of their revenue comes from higher margin services) so the increase in iPhone prices is because the newer phones are more expensive to make. So is Google making next to no money off this phone or is it just cheaper hardware?
Google basically makes no money off any of their hardware.
 
Wrong. Apple announced Marzipan last year and stated specifically they were "dog-fooding" internally before official release to developers this year.


You do realize apple released marzipan apps last year, right...they called it phase 1.

3rd party marzipan apps with universal framework will be coming this year.
 
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