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To think that the iPhone still ships with an LED screen at a $700 price point, though. I still can't believe that they can get away with that.
But Google has badly screwed up an OLED before. I can't believe Pixel 2XL shipped at all.
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As long as they, like Apple, are also shipping a phone that also follows the minimal bezel design language. Unfortunately, they aren’t. I wonder why they decided to go with unequal bezels?
IT's a weird look for sure, but it makes sense from an R&D standpoint.
 
I actually like the black square look better than the exposed lenses on the iPhone but surprised in 2019, without any sophisticated 3D facial unlocking Google cant manage a bezeless design.
It actually is pretty sophisticated. It’s not the garbage one camera face unlock.
It has a dot emitter, IR camera, front camera, flood illumination, and the radar emitter up there along with the proximity sensor.
 

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At this juncture, Google just needs to be close (if not better) than the iPhone. They make their money on advertising. The few hundred thousand Pixels won’t make a serious dent in their bottom line.
I believe these simply serve to promote the Google brand.
 
Comparing iPhone 11/Pro to Pixel 4:

Design (Rear): Same square design no one copied each aa other posters mentioned other hardware manufactures have done its months earlier. Pixel has slight edge over iPhone 11Pro.

Camera (Rear): iPhone has the advantage with 3 vice 2.

Design (Front): User preference really, either one does not notice the notch when used or it just something of an OCD for some, same with the top complete bezel. When watching Videos or Photos, Pixel 4 has the edge when using it for other things iPhone does a good job especially with DarkMode. Tie and depends on user preference.

Camera (Front): iPhone has the edge with it’s 4K capability. Radar and ToF unlock advantage may go to Pixel however information is still being released on the details. iPhone has the advantage with it’s FaceID unlock system due to information available. Speed depends on various scenario based and no information if able to unlock in various orientations. iPhone marginal advantage though the iPad Pro system should have been available on iPhone 11 Pro.

Display (Type): I am unsure how much of a visual and noticeable difference most users will notice. I would call this one a tie as both are OLED.

Display (Refresh): Pixel has the advantage with 90Hz, it is noticeable and even Apple markets this on iPad Pro with adaptable 120Hz, not sure why the iPhone 11Pro does not have this. Some people on this forum are just haters and don’t want to accept reality.

Speakers (Stereo): iPhone 11Pro has a slight advantage with its dynamic surround implementation, however Pixel has both front firing speakers. Not sure why Apple refuses to have front firing speakers on all iOS devices.

Battery: iPhone 11Pro has the clear advantage, it has been a long time coming by Apple resolving the concern with the XR.

Other categories: iPhone has the advantage with A13, 4K video and photos, wide stereo audio recording videos, iOS updated for years.

Pixel has 6GB RAM, NightSight 2, Google Assistant, etc.

PixelBuds looks decent enough that I may pick these up, until AirPods 3 offers something comparable or better.

PixelBook looks cool, though the pricing needs to come down to reality. Possibly related to external factors placing pressure on companies to absorb or pass on costs to consumers.
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At this juncture, Google just needs to be close (if not better) than the iPhone. They make their money on advertising. The few hundred thousand Pixels won’t make a serious dent in their bottom line.
I believe these simply serve to promote the Google brand.

Google phone hardware are like Trojans, it is a method and means to collect data from users continually and in the wild. I am sure Apple phone hardware are doing the same but not the extent being used by Google.
 
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Google ditched LG POLED displays.
The 4 uses Samsung OLED panels.

Displaymate just released their analysis. (Which I'm sure will be deemed irrelevant or arbitrary, since it's not an Apple device being tested)

Some highlights...

The iPhone 11 Pro received the same "Based on our extensive Lab Tests and Measurements the iPhone 11 Pro Max receives our DisplayMate Best Smartphone Display Award earning DisplayMate’s highest ever A+ grade by providing considerably better display performance than other competing Smartphones."


What's your point, beyond subtly trolling?
 
But Google has badly screwed up an OLED before. I can't believe Pixel 2XL shipped.

Let the past remain there, every phone manufacturer has made mistakes and learnt from it, maybe to cut costs or other reasons. Compare phones released in late 2018 till present.
 
Let the past remain there, every phone manufacturer has made mistakes and learnt from it, maybe to cut costs or other reasons. Compare phones released in late 2018 till present.

Okay, but I’m not sure the Pixel 4 compares well to the iPhone 11. It’s not even the same league as the pros or the s10
 
Whenever Google (or really any Apple competitor) comes out with a new product, the gnashing of teeth on the Macrumors forums is painfully predictable.

On the one hand, you get the obvious trolls exposing how [competing product] is SO much better than Apple's. And on the other hand, you get the Apple fans pointing out all the flaws in the competing product, and thus Apple's product is better.

You know how things actually work though? Some devices are better at some things, and other devices are better at others. Maybe the Pixel 4 has a better camera than the iPhone 11/11 Pro (though that is still very much to be determined), does that immediately make it a better product? The iPhone 11 Pro has a much bigger battery than the Pixel 4, does that immediately make it a better product? Spoiler alert, NO!

The Pixel 4 may very well be superior to the iPhone is some aspects, but the iPhone will undoubtably be superior in other aspects.

This extends beyond iPhones, and Pixels - but to Macs and iPads and Microsoft Surface, etc. Determine the features that are important to you, determine the device that best meets those features, and that's the device you should get!

For me, I value privacy, ease of use, quality hardware and software, and I adore both macOS and iOS (despite the rocky start that both Catalina and iOS 13 have had), thus Apple will almost always be my product of choice. BUT, that does not mean other products are of high quality or easy to use, they just don't check all of the checkboxes on my list.
 
Okay, but I’m not sure the Pixel 4 compares well to the iPhone 11. It’s not even the same league as the pros or the s10
Are we talking about the entire package or just the display. Every phone does not have to do everything well, Apple marketing just paints themselves in a corner by saying they do it all better. Remember Apple’s design philosophy.
 
It actually is pretty sophisticated. It’s not the garbage one camera face unlock.
It has a dot emitter, IR camera, front camera, flood illumination, and the radar emitter up there along with the proximity sensor.
So aside from the gimmicky Soli, they basically copied all the components from the iPhone X, except 2 years later.

Google ditched LG POLED displays.
The 4 uses Samsung OLED panels.

Displaymate just released their analysis. (Which I'm sure will be deemed irrelevant or arbitrary, since it's not an Apple device being tested)

Some highlights...
Yes it’s a very good display. Yet it lags in several areas. Like brightness, where the iPhone is substantially brighter at 900 nits (vs 444 for the Pixel 4).

Though it looks like Google might have finally dealt with their crappy color management, though we’ll need to see Anandtech test it to confirm as Displaymate plays it “loose” when throwing around terms like “color management” and “calibration”. They claimed the S10 and Note 10 supported color management and had calibrated screens yet they still can’t render more than one color space at a time.
 
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So let's recap:
1. the camera on the Pixel 4 is lightyears ahead of the one on the iPhone.
2. The display is as well.
3. FaceID on Pixel is instant.
...and somehow, people here still find ways lie to themselves that the iphone's better. Amazing!
FaceID on iPhone is also instant, but Apple made the decision to maintain the lock screen instead of blowing through it so you can see your notifications. Remember the complaints when TouchID was “too fast” blowing through the lock screen?
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At this juncture, Google just needs to be close (if not better) than the iPhone. They make their money on advertising. The few hundred thousand Pixels won’t make a serious dent in their bottom line.
I believe these simply serve to promote the Google brand.
The Pixel line was just Google’s sleazy attempt to make profits from their reference “Nexus” phones. So not only you let Google data mine you, you are paying them a premium for the privilege being spied on by Google. How great, isn’t it?
 
Whenever Google (or really any Apple competitor) comes out with a new product, the gnashing of teeth on the Macrumors forums is painfully predictable.

On the one hand, you get the obvious trolls exposing how [competing product] is SO much better than Apple's. And on the other hand, you get the Apple fans pointing out all the flaws in the competing product, and thus Apple's product is better.

You know how things actually work though? Some devices are better at some things, and other devices are better at others. Maybe the Pixel 4 has a better camera than the iPhone 11/11 Pro (though that is still very much to be determined), does that immediately make it a better product? The iPhone 11 Pro has a much bigger battery than the Pixel 4, does that immediately make it a better product? Spoiler alert, NO!

The Pixel 4 may very well be superior to the iPhone is some aspects, but the iPhone will undoubtably be superior in other aspects.

This extends beyond iPhones, and Pixels - but to Macs and iPads and Microsoft Surface, etc. Determine the features that are important to you, determine the device that best meets those features, and that's the device you should get!

For me, I value privacy, ease of use, quality hardware and software, and I adore both macOS and iOS (despite the rocky start that both Catalina and iOS 13 have had), thus Apple will almost always be my product of choice. BUT, that does not mean other products are of high quality or easy to use, they just don't check all of the checkboxes on my list.
The problem is the Google fanboys criticized Apple for the exact same thing that Google is doing (removing fingerprint sensor, small battery, bezels, removal of headphone jack, etc).
 
So let's recap:
1. the camera on the Pixel 4 is lightyears ahead of the one on the iPhone.
2. The display is as well.
3. FaceID on Pixel is instant.
...and somehow, people here still find ways lie to themselves that the iphone's better. Amazing!
1. Unless you do video of any kind
2. The 90hz thing is nice, but it's going to destroy the small pixel battery
3. It's fast on iOS but it doesn't blow through the lock screen.

Keep selling yourself a second rate device.

The Pixel is a big dud and it has solidified Samsung, Huawei and Apple as the main contenders in the iPhone space
 
wow this phone looks hilariously bad. with ugly design, huge bezels, its like an april fools joke year after year
 
As long as they, like Apple, are also shipping a phone that also follows the minimal bezel design language. Unfortunately, they aren’t. I wonder why they decided to go with unequal bezels?

They had no real option. Either they would have to take the path Apple or Samsung went down with notches or hole punches, or create something altogether new.

They instead chose to make what looks like a screen that was ill fitted to the device like it either sagged down from where it should have been or was a smaller screen mistakenly placed in the larger frame.

Good design is tough to do, especially when it includes technology that can’t do what some would want it to do.
 
They had no real option. Either they would have to take the path Apple or Samsung went down with notches or hole punches, or create something altogether new.

They instead chose to make what looks like a screen that was ill fitted to the device like it either sagged down from where it should have been or was a smaller screen mistakenly placed in the larger frame.

Good design is tough to do, especially when it includes technology that can’t do what some would want it to do.
Good design is tough, but doable.
Google does not design. The ODM was probably Foxconn. And as the internet has shown, the Pixel brand has garnered such hardcore following that Google couldn’t care less.
 
Pixelbook is kind of a joke, honestly. ChromeOS is so extremely limited.

A ChromeOS device should cost $300 tops.
ChromeOS real target is Windows on Enterprise and thin clients. This premium consumer release is just a showcase. Consumers would still buy Windows laptops at that price points, but it keeps the OEMs interested on ChromeOS.
 
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Are they serious with the top and bottom bezels?

I am long GOOGL, but they should stick to ads and data mining.

With face unlock, it’s either a bezel or a notch.

As much as I love my Pro Max I’d take The bezel any day.
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No 4K 60
No ultra wide

Hell the iPhone 11 has better front facing video than anything pixel has

Motion features just seem like gimmicks to me but each their own

Overall it seems the pixel will continue to sell badly
It seems that the still camera is better than the iPhone 11 - but it’s lacking the ultrawide, and 4K60, and fancy front camera stuff.

I don’t think Google wants to sell this by the millions - Android is popular because all smartphone makers use Android, if Google competes with them too fiercely this may lead to a new OS.
 
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