Google Launches Nexus One: T-Mobile Plan Available Now, Verizon and Vodafone Coming Soon

[Jpoon]

Indeed, iPhone is surely Apple's lamest product name ever. I was dumbstruck when they actually named it that. And if they name their tablet (if it exists) the iTablet or such I'll be aghast. Newton was such a great brand - they need to bring it back. Drop the iStuff already, Apple. It's passed its sell-by date.

But Nexus One is just as bad. Seriously, who are they targeting with such a device brand? Doesn't Google realize that the smart phone market of the future is all about Joe and Jane Q. Public? It's not about the hardcore geek anymore. You don't name your phones after stellar constellations and run ads with giant robotic red eyes or talk about your phone like it's a bad-arse 4x4. The sci-fi geeks just aren't that big a market (take Battlestar Galactica - one of the best TV shows ever and it couldn't even make it to a mainstream network for broadcast).

I can't wait for the Nexus Twelve Mark V.

The Android marketing approach really boggles my mind. It's right up there with Gates/Seinfeld and the chewy computers.

I can't believe you people are actually concerned about the name of the product. Does it really have anything to do with the functionality of the product itself? For all you care, you can just tape over "iPhone" on the back and put whatever cool name you want.

Either way, the Nexus one is just like every other Android phone. It does a lot of stuff... but just alright. The processor is really fast... Great but it doesn't actually boost performance that much. The phone is still extremely expensive unlocked and what not. T-Mobile still has terrible data coverage where I live. There's no multi-touch for different applications that exist for the Motorola Droid...

And there's now ANOTHER new version of Android out there. There's actually a pretty hilarious troll post about all the different versions of Android rolling around right now on phonescoop.com That really doesn't bode well to me for the future of Android as a platform. If every handset company

It doesn't have iTunes to back it up, it doesn't have the full app support. There's no accessories out there for it like the iPhone. It's going to run into the same application storage issue that other Android phones are having.

Quite simply put, it's not a phone that I can just sell to someone and expect for them to be able to figure out, or use to it's fullest extent with minimal tech knowledge. If T-Mobile had better coverage around this area and Google was a bit more on the ball with some finer features that I've grown acccustomed to on the iPhone, then it would be a game changer for me and many other people.

But for right now, it's just another "nice" Android phone. I would love to have it as a new toy to play around with, but I'd end up just going back to what I love about the 3gs. It just f*cking works And that's what I want in the end. (and I'm willing to pay for it)

 

[conradwt]

never going to happen.

Yes, I agree with 100%. It's part of the iPhone's design to not have
such a look on the back panel. I like the way that Apple doesn't try
to be like everybody else but follow their own vision.

 

[gctwnl]

Some are also living with the restricted os, lack of multitasking, sluggish application approval process, lack of customisation too, lackluster network offerings (in some regions) and switching the other way.

Honestly, both platforms can I've together quite harmoniously without people spereading dsinformation and uneducated "facts" about Android.

I find the complains about the application process if you consider they approved around 100,000.

 

[conradwt]

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iPhone os has just as much potential for fragmentation, especially with iPod touch owners who refuse to pay for yet another firmware update.

At least, they have the option to get the update versus the update not supported. It's a big difference.

 

[ChazUK]

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iPhone os has just as much potential for fragmentation, especially with iPod touch owners who refuse to pay for yet another firmware update.

At least, they have the option to get the update versus the update not supported. It's a big difference.

Okay, we'll completely dismiss the fragmentation if the iPhone os platform. Just pretend that the people who won't pay for the update don't exist to bolster a one sided arguement.

 

[MikePA]

The fact this phone is a V10 compared to apples v8 is mute...

The word is 'moot'. 'Mute' means inability to speak.

 

[dernhelm]

"Superphone"?

LOL. It's a smartphone, in the same category as the iPhone. No, Google didn't create a new category, it created an iPhone clone with a fraction of the apps, an ugly UI, and no multitouch.

It's just OK. Not revolutionary. If your product is "just OK" in the same category as Apple's product, then Apple's next product update will consign your product to oblivion, or nearly that.

That's the rule when competing in the same handheld space as Apple.

Agreed, mostly. I welcome it because Apple NEEDS the competition. But for anyone to think Google innovated anything here, is just delusional.

 

[Droid13]

Things can only get better from here

On paper the Nexus One appears (to me) to be better than the iPhone in quite a few ways. In particular I like the use of a standard connector on the base, the screen, the flash, removable battery, what I think is proper bluetooth - I could go on. The only drawbacks at the moment are the relative lack of apps (looking at numbers of them only, by no means the preferred method of comparing the app environments) and the built-in storage. However, both of these can be overcome by time and shopping around for decently priced microSD cards. Removable storage would make it a lot easier to move files from phone to computer too - no need for syncing every time.

I have no personal experience of the OS so I can't really comment on it, but it sounds ok...

The computing power that can be squeezed into a pocket sized device is only going to get better from here on - and prices will come down. Quite interested to see what other manufacturers come up with next and what the running costs turn out to be. O2 have me for the next 18 months, so it's a spectator sport for me.

Speaking of which, we'll have to see how the networks cope too lol...

 

[Thex1138]

Mount Apple

The reality is that this android phone has to gel with the market... Apple sells to 78+ countries at over 3000 phones an hour if I am not mistaken... in the past quarter... [8000000/90days/24hours/60minutes is about 60 iphones sold per minute in that quarter...]. Who knows the face could fall off the android like Westworld [movie].
Then people buy Apps... then people get App updates...

It's a long way to the top of mount Apple.

Droid now has about 8 versions of the platform... little market traction.

And face it... if Nokia go after Apple on patents.. then they go after Google next, the Palm... etc,.

Apple would have to be very much on the nose with the market to start to slide again...

Now with the possible enabling of Radio feature on that 70 million or so iPhone Os's... And if the Tablet has a tight integration with the iPhone which is quite possible...

 

[edesignuk]

I'm still wondering when people are going to begin understanding how apps are installed on Android.

On these forums, never.

Not only that, but they said in the conference that an OS patch will be released that allows for apps to installed to the SD card. The restriction is currently due to piracy concerns. They will encrypt the SD card in some way and from there permit app installs to it rather than internal storage if you so wish.


There's a lot of posts in this thread that are pure FUD. Wouldn't expect any different though, and I'm past caring. Everyone has their iPhones and loves them I'm sure, wonderful. Doesn't mean something else can't be as good, or suit people better. You'd think people were defending their kids (iPhones) from the school bully (Google) the way some of you carry on.

Anyway, enjoy whatever it is that you happen to enjoy using and getting the most out of.

 

[iRACK]

I Think the Nexus One is not a bad looking phone. It does have decent insides, but than what would you have expected in 2010? 1Ghz isn´t any surprise nor are the other features.

The two things that ar superior to Apples iPhone 3Gs are the camera and the clock speed (-> which is not an indicator at all since speed is software and software is speed)

Well having sad the above what are my conclusion on this Phone and this Thread?!

First: The Phone was announced yesterday-> Nobody knows how it will do! So lets wait and see (it fail)...

Secondly: The most important thing is the following. Apple managed to sell roughly (estimation) 11Million Handsets in the last Quarter. If this iPhone is "so outdated" and its Design "is overdue" why did about 11 Million people sign 2 Year Contracts in the last 3 Month? All these are not up for any Android phone any time soon.

And what esle? Even more people bought an ipod Touch! And all those probably do not need an expansive Smartphone, since that functionality is in their touch already. So why spend 50 bucks/month on a Smartphone Data-plan?

And all those Owners of iPhones and iPod Touches tend to buy peripherals like Docks, Sound-docks and so on. So switching isn not just switching the Phone but switching an entire Ecosystem -> that is expansive. So most people that spend all this Money on iPhone an stuff around will stick to their Apple Product.

I think Apple is doing perfectly fine. And keep in mind the Money will not be earned in US markets. Growth is in Asia and other places.

In the end we will have to wait how it evolves. IMO it will be a major update coming to the iPhone in June. I still prefere the all in one solution that apple offers with the iPhone and itunes. Android is far away.

 

[gathart]

I am sure it is going to be a good phone, but I am very

happy with my iPhone, the gadget that really transformed my life. and i have a long contract, so no i will not be tempted. BUt competition is always good, and it might drive the prize down. So good luck to google users.

 

[spydr]

BILLSHRINK needs to go to a shrink

average data plan for iPhone 109 per month? That is what we pay for a family talk for two iPhones per month – and both have unlimited data.

 

[Ironduke]

The word is 'moot'. 'Mute' means inability to speak.

sorry are you in the education industry by any chance?

 

[fat phil]

http://www.channel4.com/news/articl...w+google+phone+the+nexus+one+unveiled/3489027

http://news.google.co.uk/news?q=goo...ent=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wn


The new Google phone: the Nexus One unveiled

Man I hate news programmes. They can never get the facts straight - Google isn't making hardware, they didn't even design it.

Which is the only reason I won't get one (and the gear slut in me would very much like one). There's something reassuring about the consistency of the iPhone - a bit like Stella Artois, I suppose.

 

[dernhelm]

I think your head is rammed a bit too far up Apple's arse mate.

This phone looks a lot better than a lot of the other phones out there at the moment. It's just a shame that it's not a flip phone.

It isn't a flip phone because the iPhone is not a flip phone. When Apple makes a flip phone, then suddenly Google will too.

I'm disappointed in this myself, it all just seems too derivative. When Apple produced it's phone, it brought touch/multitouch interfaces mainstream and produced an interface for their phone unlike anything anyone else had done. They also made an app store unlike anything anyone else had done. What did Google do? Add a 5MP camera? Big deal.

Sure it's a nice looking phone (not necessarily nicer looking than an iPhone, but not ugly anyway). And some of the apps may even be better than the ones on the iPhone, but its just derivative. All the mindshare is still in Apple's camp. And long term, that mean's Apple is still driving the car - not Google.

 

[bobr1952]

It isn't a flip phone because the iPhone is not a flip phone. When Apple makes a flip phone, then suddenly Google will too.

I'm disappointed in this myself, it all just seems too derivative. When Apple produced it's phone, it brought touch/multitouch interfaces mainstream and produced an interface for their phone unlike anything anyone else had done. They also made an app store unlike anything anyone else had done. What did Google do? Add a 5MP camera? Big deal.

Sure it's a nice looking phone (not necessarily nicer looking than an iPhone, but not ugly anyway). And some of the apps may even be better than the ones on the iPhone, but its just derivative. All the mindshare is still in Apple's camp. And long term, that mean's Apple is still driving the car - not Google.

Certainly competition is good for all of us. And I'm sure it will lead to even more enhancements of the iPhone. But you do have to admire Apple for creating such a great design in the first place. Such a great design that even Google couldn't really improve upon the basic design. Personally, I have no problems with ATT and would have them as a carrier even if I didn't have an iPhone. I've had ATT for over 4 years and have no plans to switch.

 

[YesILoveTech]

Please don't ignore this post.

Please answer this for me people. Why are so many in this forum such rabid fan-persons? Why do y'all get such in a tiff when new technology other than created/sold by Apple comes out? Does it make you feel better about yourselves...is it lining your pockets?

Now on to the true subject. The Nexus One seems as if it is going to provide a really good smartphone experience. The specs are definitely there, while not as many apps as the iPhone they have more than enough functional apps in their Marketplace. I'd like to see Android get into games a little more, but doesn't have to be the same as the 3D type that iPhone/Touch has...they just need to be fun.

People I think it is time we start being more open about tech manufacturer-wise. Fanpersonism needs to die out, myself for example has bought 3 MBP's in the last 5 months...one for mom (13"), my wife (13"), and myself ( top model 15"). I bootcamp my MBP and enjoy the flexibility, I own a Bold 2, my wife a iPhone 3G, and my mother some basic model AT&T phone. They all suit us in our own ways. One size does not fit all. Besides, as a few of the unbiased in this forum have stated...solid competition benefits us the consumers, prevents manufacturers from becoming lazy with us.

Have a good day all!!

 

[miketcool]

And this is where you fail. This is not a Google Phone. It's an HTC phone that just happens to be the device chosen to launch Google's phone website.

Man I hate news programmes. They can never get the facts straight - Google isn't making hardware, they didn't even design it.

How much do you personally know about the design process of this particular phone?

This phone has been specifically stated to have been designed as a collaboration between Google and HTC. In the design world, collaborative design is an EXTREMELY common practice. It seems more then reasonable that Google is calling this the Google Phone because they helped design it.

If you want to get technical, HTC isn't making the hardware either. If the phone was simply rebranded, it would lack the HTC logos.

 

[gctwnl]

App storage will also be fixed, with encryption allowing storage to SD, confirmed by Google today.

Which will solve an important architectural problem, though at the expense of some speed and battery life. I think it would be good for Apple to make a SD-capable iPhone likewise. They could make a 2GB+SD phone.

 

[YesILoveTech]

Certainly competition is good for all of us. And I'm sure it will lead to even more enhancements of the iPhone. But you do have to admire Apple for creating such a great design in the first place. Such a great design that even Google couldn't really improve upon the basic design. Personally, I have no problems with ATT and would have them as a carrier even if I didn't have an iPhone. I've had ATT for over 4 years and have no plans to switch.

Sir, you do realize that technology in and of itself is about refining what is already available. The words revolutionary and innovative is used a bit much when dealing with tech. This of course are the fruits of great advertising and marketing campaigns. All that to say while Apple has put a level of REFINEMENT on the smartphone concept, they definitely weren't the first in many aspects. Saying so is discounting the efforts of many that came before iPhone.

EDIT: Selling a massive amount of units does not allow a company to re-write history.

 

[KnightWRX]

It says Google on the back! It IS Google's phone.

It says that on the back of every Google Experience branded phone, including many HTC handsets and other Android phones with an unmodified firmware.

Seriously, you're grasping at straws here. This is not the Google Phone. It's just another Android handset that is a Google Experience phone.

 

[MecPro]

If you want to get technical, HTC isn't making the hardware either. If the phone was simply rebranded, it would lack the HTC logos.

It does though

 

[*LTD*]

Why do y'all get such in a tiff when new technology other than created/sold by Apple comes out?

Because it's another me-too iPhone clone that will be yesterday's news after the next iPhone update, if the interest actually lasts that long. So all the adulation for the Storm, was transferred to the Pre, which was transferred to the Droid, which is now being transferred to the Nexus One, is all for nothing, really. Apple has already captured and owns the Average User. Done. What needs to be understood is that Apple has this market figured out for the next 5-7 years. Locked. The game's already over.

 

[Kwill]

Triple oxymoron

A 12x actual size version of the Nexus One phone with a 1920x1080 46-inch LED-backlit display is running a demonstration of a linux based phone ... on a Mac mini running Windows. Now that's competition!