Google Launches Nexus One: T-Mobile Plan Available Now, Verizon and Vodafone Coming Soon

[donmega1833]

That sucks

I never realized that the Iphone sucked so bad..... Wow, I want all that stuff that google phones give. Sorry for the sarcasm , that was rude (; . You are right that Apple controls alot but it works for them. Good Hardware, great design and great software ! And as for Itunes well no one told Microsoft or Google not to write a suitable competitive program and tie it into a great device and lock every other device out forcing u to use the program, the device and similar devices to it that we will steadily release in the future. Suck for them Apple has a great strategy. So it's choice vs my Ipod/smartphone . Being able to watch my Itunes content Vs not...... Yeah I'll get back to the Nexus one once I finish dl this season of family guy. So to answer your series of ?'s! Not really, it would be cool but for me and Millions of Iphone Users , not really important. Get full iTunes intergration ( not a replacement). And I would consider it.

I remember the switch to Intel around here. There was a lot of denial and grieving for awhile. Then things slowly changed and Apple became a genius company for using PC spec hardware. If you can't beat 'em join 'em and that is exactly what Apple did. They probably should have given up on the whole proprietary PPC platform years before they did, but finally they saw the light that the other PC vendors saw years before. Intel x86 was always faster in real life, but PPC was faster in marketing.

Apple has copied as much as any other company. The whole smart phone idea was a copied idea. What they did however was merge a phone and an iPod. It was and it still is a genius idea, however Android offers the same user experience, but with more options.

Do you want a choice in US carriers? Android-yes Apple-no
Do you want to be able to expand memory without replacing the phone? Android-yes Apple-no
Do you want to be able to replace your own battery when it gets bad? Android-yes Apple-no
Do you want a choice of handset keyboards? Android-yes Apple-no
Do you want a choice of browsers? Android-yes Apple-no
Do you want a choice of style and design? Android-yes Apple-no
Do you want a choice between a basic Google Experience phone or one that runs a social networking layer over it (ie-Motoblur IU, Sense IU)? Android-yes Apple-no

Apple doesn't believe the customer is even capable of replacing their own battery. lol Apple believes the customer should take it or leave it. You have to like what they give you and if you don't... bye... go buy another phone.

The biggest advantages to the iPhone is the seamless syncing to iTunes and the App store. Those two things are what keeps the iPhone at the top of the pile. If you took away those things the iPhone would actually be a pretty poor product compared to the Nexus One and the Droid.

 

[DakotaGuy]

Not even close.

Oh yeah it doesn't have the Apple logo. Coming from someone who thinks that the logo is the most important reason to purchase a product I would not put a lot of weight in what you say.

I own an iPod Touch and a Droid. You keep saying how the iPhone is completely different and so much better, but I don't see it.

I haven't even figured out how to get a desktop picture on my iPod Touch yet, but there is a great app to select all kinds of wonderful desktop pictures for my Droid. I can change the wallpaper on the unlock screen of the Touch, but when it is unlocked it is just black. Could you tell me how to change it since you seem to know so much about the iPhone and iPod software?

 

[cumanzor]

I never realized that the Iphone sucked so bad..... Wow, I want all that stuff that google phones give. Sorry for the sarcasm , that was rude (; . You are right that Apple controls alot but it works for them. Good Hardware, great design and great software ! And as for Itunes well no one told Microsoft or Google not to write a suitable competitive program and tie it into a great device and lock every other device out forcing u to use the program, the device and similar devices to it that we will steadily release in the future. Suck for them Apple has a great strategy. So it's choice vs my Ipod/smartphone . Being able to watch my Itunes content Vs not...... Yeah I'll get back to the Nexus one once I finish dl this season of family guy. So to answer your series of ?'s! Not really, it would be cool but for me and Millions of Iphone Users , not really important. Get full iTunes intergration ( not a replacement). And I would consider it.

There is no need for sarcasm. He wasn't saying the iPhone sucks. He is just mentioning some points he believes are disadvantages, and many people will agree and others will disagree with him.

It's good that you are happy with the iTunes integration on your iPhone. As a Linux user, I cannot use iTunes, and as a Windows user, I absolutely hate iTunes. Other platforms offer more integration for me, and that's why other platforms are better for me.

 

[iRACK]

I haven't even figured out how to get a desktop picture on my iPod Touch yet, but there is a great app to select all kinds of wonderful desktop pictures for my Droid. I can change the wallpaper on the unlock screen of the Touch, but when it is unlocked it is just black. Could you tell me how to change it since you seem to know so much about the iPhone and iPod software?

Your screenname says it all...

Did u check into junior High jet? Wallpaper beeing an issue come on man really?
You playkids.Play On.

 

[DakotaGuy]

There is no need for sarcasm. He wasn't saying the iPhone sucks. He is just mentioning some points he believes are disadvantages, and many people will agree and others will disagree with him.

It's good that you are happy with the iTunes integration on your iPhone. As a Linux user, I cannot use iTunes, and as a Windows user, I absolutely hate iTunes. Other platforms offer more integration for me, and that's why other platforms are better for me.

The iPhone is a good device. If it was terrible do you think I would own an iPod Touch? All I am saying is that Android is also good and offers different options to the customer.

I have a Droid and an iPod Touch so I guess I get to enjoy the best of both. That is the good thing about being open minded.

Your screenname says it all...

Did u check into junior High jet? Wallpaper beeing an issue come on man really?
You playkids.Play On.

Check my join date. I have been around here a little longer then you. The username is old...old...old back from my college days. I would change it if I could.

Anyhow I am just wondering how you can make the wallpaper show up after you unlock the iPod Touch. I'd like that because it looks great on my Droid.

 

[miketcool]

Dude, it's an HTC phone. The confusion comes from the initial claims that that Google was gonna be responsible for both hardware and software. Instead what was released was the latest rev OS on HTC hardware. Just like how 2 months ago, the previous rev OS was released on Motorola hardware. The only difference between the Droid and the Nexus One from a business standpoint is that the Nexus One has a new distribution paradigm.

Dude, it's like the Nike+iPod partnership.

Nike-iPod was Nike branded, and made by a manufacturing plant in China. The design was collaborated on by both Nike and Apple.

The Nexus One is HTC branded, made by a manufacturing plant in either China or Taiwan. It's design was collaborated on by HTC and Google.

HTC didn't have the Nexus One until Google worked on the project with them. It is a different approach from the G1, the Zune or the Geo Metro. It existed AFTER the partnership was created for one unique purpose.

 

[Liquorpuki]

Apple doesn't believe the customer is even capable of replacing their own battery. lol Apple believes the customer should take it or leave it. You have to like what they give you and if you don't... bye... go buy another phone.

There are a lot of shortcomings Apple is betting the customer will put up with as annoyances in order to enjoy the iPhone user experience - lack of a removable battery, lack of multi-tasking, crappy camera, etc. For the most part Apple's been right. The feature set is consistently outspecced by newer phones but for most people, it's not a make it or break it thing. People are willing to put up with not having the hottest technical specs for a reason. Which you mention below.

The biggest advantages to the iPhone is the seamless syncing to iTunes and the App store. Those two things are what keeps the iPhone at the top of the pile. If you took away those things the iPhone would actually be a pretty poor product compared to the Nexus One and the Droid.

This is true, and it's funny how every new Android phone that comes out fails to address either. It's like Apple's competitors are clueless about what's really fueling the iPhone's success and think having a bigger screen will actually have a significant impact.

 

[MH01]

Wow. FYL u have really bad luck! LOL. Apple does have great product Maybe it's U. It's amazing how there are only Fanboys for good products Apple, Crackberries, Ford or Chevy, iPods. Never see too many droid , zune or Dell Fanpeople. (; . No offense maybe Apple is that really hot girl that really no good for you.

No mate that was my last 10 years with apple products. In that time I have also had products from other companies that have had thier share of issues. The fact is modern electronics are not really made to last these days, if companies made components rock solid it would cost them more and it would take much longer to make the next sale. Classic example was talking to my Granddad who was bitching about his new fridge dying after 12 months while his last one lasted 15 years.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

I have about 6 Gigs in my entire music library. That includes all the best albums of Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Megadeth, Metallica, Iron Maiden and the entire Guns N' Roses discography, pre-1993.

32 GB is only worth it if you're using flac files.

Off Topic Nice Disco there! Get the new Megadeth CD Endgame its glorious!

 

[DakotaGuy]

This is true, and it's funny how every new Android phone that comes out fails to address either. It's like Apple's competitors are clueless about what's really fueling the iPhone's success and think having a bigger screen will actually have a significant impact.

This is exactly why the iPhone is popular because it syncs like an iPod. That is the great part about it. If you took that away from it the Android phones would be superior.

I have about 2,000 songs on my Droid, but loading it is not nearly as nice as loading my iPod Touch. I have to make a playlist in iTunes and then drag and drop onto the SD card. It works fine, but it is not an elegant solution.

Getting pictures and video off of the phone works a lot better because iPhoto sees it as a digital camera so it shows up as a device.

Motorola offers a media sync program that will load your iTunes library and all of your pictures, but it is only for Windows. There are other 3rd party solutions that work for the Mac, but they are not as good as iTunes.

 

[tzeshan]

So, my tally is maybe one person (LagunaSol) was offended by the Hal-esque robot in the Droid ads. Check.

How many people were offended by the successful Mac vs. PC ads? Attention works!



Again, how do you know this? This is just speculation on your behalf. I am looking at this device and telling you, as a designer, it is more then rebranded hardware like the G1. I know this won't satisfy you, but here is a quote from Mario Queiroz, Google's VP of Product Management.

“To help Android to adapt to the needs of users like you and me, our engineering department sometimes works with partners to speed innovation around Android, but we want to do more. So we asked ourselves, ‘What if we worked even more closely with our partners to bring devices to market that will help us better showcase some of the technology we’ve developed?’ The dictionary definition of Nexus One is a point of convergence. Its that point at which Web meets phone. The Nexus One belongs in an emerging category of devices we call superphones.”

At some point the design process will be spotlighted, but Queiroz explains how the Nexus One came from a closer collaboration of the two companies.

"11:04 a.m.: PC World wants to know more about Google's role, wondering why Google had to design the phone rather than being an HTC phone designed by HTC. Also, will the Droid get the new features? Rubin said it's inaccurate to say that Google designed the phone: Google is just merchandising it on the store, similar to any retailer, and HTC designed the phone. Google plans to open-source the software, so it will show up on other phones shortly."

 

[Rocketman]

Whoa, has anyone noticed that this handset has active noise cancellation built-in? Not only will I not drop calls, but my voice search and calls I do make will be crystal clear! That is pretty nice.

I like that HTC hears us and responds! Biggest G1 complaint is no 3.5mm headphone jack. They mention that this phone no longer requires extra adapters, they listened!

Your google wave link should not be https.

Rocketman

 

[miketcool]

This is true, and it's funny how every new Android phone that comes out fails to address either. It's like Apple's competitors are clueless about what's really fueling the iPhone's success and think having a bigger screen will actually have a significant impact.

What will fuel Android's success is the openness of the ecosystem. A solution will take time as it gains input from the entire system. There have been some impressive solutions for other missing holes. Amazon Music app is great. DRM free, and higher bit rate.

As for the Android Market, each update makes it better then the last. Ideas come from users, as well as designers. I find it much easier to navigate then the iTunes app Store. I also see being open like this a good way to stay out of the eyes of anti-competition lawsuits.

 

[iRACK]

What will fuel Android's success is the openness of the ecosystem.

Amazon Music app is great. DRM free, and higher bit rate.

The Openess that you have to pay with giving all your data in Googles hands, which is a little to open IMHO.

Amazon Music is the same Bitrate than iTunes, which is DRM free as well. So great idea.

 

[miketcool]

Your google wave link should not be https.

Rocketman

I don't know what you're talking about....

What is the reason for keeping secure http out of links? I have heard it is un-kosher, but never knew why.

 

[miketcool]

The Openess that you have to pay with giving all your data in Googles hands, which is a little to open IMHO.

Amazon Music is the same Bitrate than iTunes, which is DRM free as well. So great idea.

Welcome to the age of the internet.

Misleading, as ALL of Amazon MP3 is at 256kps and DRM free. I mean completely DRM free. Last I checked, Apple was still tagging "DRM" free songs with purchaser info and charging extra.

 

[fat phil]

How much do you personally know about the design process of this particular phone?

This phone has been specifically stated to have been designed as a collaboration between Google and HTC. In the design world, collaborative design is an EXTREMELY common practice. It seems more then reasonable that Google is calling this the Google Phone because they helped design it.

If you want to get technical, HTC isn't making the hardware either. If the phone was simply rebranded, it would lack the HTC logos.

Put your toys back in the pram sunshine and take it from the horse's mouth.

http://gigaom.com/2010/01/05/andy-rubin-on-google-phone-android/

Too many people rely on rumour. Judging by your rabid posts in this thread you're just out for a troll i mean stroll.

 

[D4F]

I sold my iPhone for G1 and it's multitasking ability and I never looked back.
Already ordered the Nexus and just can't wait till it arrives.
I pay $87 with taxes for everything unlimited in T-mobile and never ever had a network issue nor a lack of it. Google voice is a killer feature (pretty much I have my personal and business line in one device which allows me to do international calls for $0.02 a minute. For the weekend I turn on straight to voicemail feature and I am not bothered by calls from that line.)
You know how nice it will be to write a long business email while your driving your car since all you have to do is speak and not worry about anything else?
And the fact that there is pretty much a free app for everything on the market? Turn by turn navigation and I'm not gonna even mention tethering that works like a charm.
All of this in the package. So far extra software cost me $1.99 for a file manager app and everything else (got tons of it) was for free. How many apps did you purchase for your iPhone?
Anybody that blindly praises the iPhone needs a reality check. It is cool and it was a breakthrough. Not anymore. Now is just a nice looking average smartphone... like a candy but it in this case it just doesn't leave a sweet taste after you chew it for a while.

 

[fat phil]

You know how nice it will be to write a long business email while your driving your car since all you have to do is speak and not worry about anything else?

I sure hope you have a quiet car. Last time I tried voice recognition (iPhone's actually) it was a total fail. I have a thick regional english accent, and it never once has managed to get me even if i try Queen's English. (I can't do Californian).

 

[Liquorpuki]

What will fuel Android's success is the openness of the ecosystem. A solution will take time as it gains input from the entire system. There have been some impressive solutions for other missing holes. Amazon Music app is great. DRM free, and higher bit rate.

As for the Android Market, each update makes it better then the last. Ideas come from users, as well as designers. I find it much easier to navigate then the iTunes app Store. I also see being open like this a good way to stay out of the eyes of anti-competition lawsuits.

Even though I believe the Android market and business model will evolve, I believe the iPhone's will as well. One will be playing catchup to the other.

Being open has drawbacks as well as benefits. At the moment, it's not necessarily an improvement. It's just a different paradigm.

Decentralized HW also has benefits and drawbacks. Because of Windows Mobile, we already know what most of them are.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/06/google_nexus_one_revolution/ <-- This article made me laugh

 

[fat phil]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/06/google_nexus_one_revolution/ <-- This article made me laugh

I just read that too, brilliant. El Reg at it's most urbane. Certainly pours cold water on the hype, even if it is mostly tongue in cheek

 

[tzeshan]

I just read that too, brilliant. El Reg at it's most urbane. Certainly pours cold water on the hype, even if it is mostly tongue in cheek

This makes the Google mobile phone model more like Microsoft than Apple.

 

[Puddinman]

The iPhone is successful because it provides a seamless user experience wrapped up in a sexy package. Everything not only works, but works beautifully. The experience is consistent among all iPhone users. This is a direct result of Apple's tight control over the hardware and software. The fact that iPhone only has a 3MP camera, isn't customizable (wallpaper, etc), doesn't have voice search, is tethered to iTunes and that ATT sucks are all completely irrelevant because it offers something no one else can: Cachet.

Android (Pre, WM, etc) is different. They promote openness. They license the code to different manufacturers and don't really control the Marketplace (or whatever they call their app store). As a result they can never provide the consistent experience of the iPhone. The G1 is different from the Droid and the differences extend even to what network they are on.

For me, nothing comes close to the iPhone regardless of specs, etc. The overall experience is, in my opinion, worth whatever small trade-offs I have to make in "openness." Other people like different things and that's OK.

Bottom line? How many people do you see willing to wait in lines for hours to get their hands on a Droid or Nexus One?

 

[miketcool]

Bottom line? How many people do you see willing to wait in lines for hours to get their hands on a Droid or Nexus One?

Why do anything as long as the masses are ready and willing to show up and salivate over whatever device you stamp your logo on then?

 

[fat phil]

This makes the Google mobile phone model more like Microsoft than Apple.

Indeed. They're all after our money and love at the end of the day, so good luck to em I say. "Happy New Year" an all that.

I'm the guy who still wishes Dean Kamen had discovered anti-gravity.