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They are comparably priced once you can actually use the SD card to store apps on
They are comparably priced once you can actually use the SD card to store apps on
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Google Launches Nexus One: T-Mobile Plan Available Now, Verizon and Vodafone Coming Soon
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An unlocked Nexus One costs $530 (as I'm in the UK I convert that to £330). I've not seen a brand new iPhone 3GS available for less than $530. In fact a lot of the ones I've seen are touching $1000. Please PM me a link to brand new unlocked iPhone 3GS's under $530 as I may have a cunning new business opportunity brewing
Oh, and we can skip the SD costs. I'll throw in a 16GB SD card (or two) as part of the package as they're so cheap anyway.
Here's what I get, with a 2-year contract and microSD card (microSD prices averaged from newegg.com):
8GB 3G - $99
8GB Nexus - $203
16GB 3GS - $199
16GB Nexus - $229
32GB 3GS - $299
32GB Nexus - Not possible, no one makes 32GB microSD cards yet.
With no contract...
8GB 3G - $499
8GB Nexus - $553
16GB 3GS - $599
16GB Nexus - $579
32GB - See above.
Apple is going to have to come up with something really good with the next iPhone. Android just keeps chugging out new, better phones one after another, each better than the last. They still may have the best phone, but there'll probably be another 1-2 really good Android phones, one of which could legit be better than the iPhone.
Apple will make some waves with the tablet in a few weeks, and they really need to deliver on that. We'll see what happens I guess. It's rare that Apple doesn't impress in times like these.
For now, unless an iPhone is on Verizon by August-September, I'm going Android.
Apple will make some waves with the tablet in a few weeks, and they really need to deliver on that. We'll see what happens I guess. It's rare that Apple doesn't impress in times like these.
For now, unless an iPhone is on Verizon by August-September, I'm going Android.
Yeah for some people... but in the US a no-contract 32gb 3GS is $700. So $623 vs $700 is not that big of a difference.
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And no moving parts to do it. No multitouch at this stage means incomplete touch technology.
http://www.google.com/phone/static/en_US-nexusone_tech_specs.html
Some interesting observations one hour in.
The speaker and microphone is positioned so the back of the device is how you talk on the phone. Further the camera being there one could do video conferencing and speakerphone, albiet without seeing the visual on the other end.
The device has high Ghz and low memory and flash (too low?), and SD as the storage medium. This allows a user to switch media when it fills, to shift data easily, but is the OS internal and not on the SD card or does a second card need to have an OS installed if you are a switcher?
It uses the same radio stuff as the iPhone. GSM/EDGE.
It uses micro-USB and interestingly is not in the iPhone ecosystem with a compatible dock connector.
It uses an OS with a cute name that begs the question: was the prior iteration "donut"?
The video density and resolution is higher than iPhone roughly 800x480 vs 320x480. I doubt this is meaningful on such a small screen, but I expect Google to hand their hat on it.
The clickable trackball is non-trivial. It makes practical remote desktop and "legacy interface applications".
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That's all great, but one of the features that makes cellphones like this really valuable for applications, games and general usage is missing: multitouch...
Not so sure about that...
I highly doubt it. It's almost as much as the iPhone 16GB, but with only 512MB internal memory? So immediately, you're shelling out another $50 or so for a 16GB MicroSD card, which means it now costs *more* than the iPHone. Early reviews I've seen of it weren't that great...they basically said "it's fairly nice, but it's not an iPhone, either."
On the "plus" side, the built-in flash is really nice, and a little extra resolution on the camera doesn't hurt (though megapixels aren't everything...wonder about lens quality, noise, etc?). The microSD card slot *would* be a nice touch, except that there's so little built-in memory. Quite honestly, I don't want to have to carry around extra microSD cards (which are tiny, so *easily* lost at $50 each), so most users will probably buy one, plug it in, and that'll be the end of it. If it had 16GB internal *and* a microSD, now THAT would be nice.
From what I've been reading (as a developer), a lot of Android developers are getting really frustrated with how disjointed things are quickly becoming, due to the variety of hardware platforms, and some of them are abandoning Android already.
We'll see...I'll be interested to see how it does....
I highly doubt it. It's almost as much as the iPhone 16GB, but with only 512MB internal memory? So immediately, you're shelling out another $50 or so for a 16GB MicroSD card, which means it now costs *more* than the iPHone. Early reviews I've seen of it weren't that great...they basically said "it's fairly nice, but it's not an iPhone, either."
On the "plus" side, the built-in flash is really nice, and a little extra resolution on the camera doesn't hurt (though megapixels aren't everything...wonder about lens quality, noise, etc?). The microSD card slot *would* be a nice touch, except that there's so little built-in memory. Quite honestly, I don't want to have to carry around extra microSD cards (which are tiny, so *easily* lost at $50 each), so most users will probably buy one, plug it in, and that'll be the end of it. If it had 16GB internal *and* a microSD, now THAT would be nice.
From what I've been reading (as a developer), a lot of Android developers are getting really frustrated with how disjointed things are quickly becoming, due to the variety of hardware platforms, and some of them are abandoning Android already.
We'll see...I'll be interested to see how it does....
The Hero and all of the Hero's default apps support multitouch but lets not let fact get in the way of this fail.
Am I the only person here who is just a little creeped out by all the possible intrusion into our privacy that tying everything you do to Google causes.
To use this phone you have to give Google all your contacts, calendar, location, voicemail, email, web usage, purchases, etc, etc, etc, information. Who knows what other things they're tracking within the OS.
I may be a bit paranoid, but it just seems like too-much-Google-in-my-life to me.
The Droid and this Nexus look like fine devices, though not as elegant as the iPhone (yet?)...but they're not so must-have as to make me tie every aspect of my life to feeding Google's profile they're building on me.
To use this phone you have to give Google all your contacts, calendar, location, voicemail, email, web usage, purchases, etc, etc, etc, information. Who knows what other things they're tracking within the OS.
I may be a bit paranoid, but it just seems like too-much-Google-in-my-life to me.
The Droid and this Nexus look like fine devices, though not as elegant as the iPhone (yet?)...but they're not so must-have as to make me tie every aspect of my life to feeding Google's profile they're building on me.
...lol..Google stocks are down and thats the best indication of what people think about it.
To be perfectly honest Nexus might have better camera or battery etc but in general its just another smartphone. iPhone got something what others can't get and I don't know what it is. Its like some women got "that something" but you don't know what.
...and no...I am not Apple fanatic...just saying
To be perfectly honest Nexus might have better camera or battery etc but in general its just another smartphone. iPhone got something what others can't get and I don't know what it is. Its like some women got "that something" but you don't know what.
...and no...I am not Apple fanatic...just saying
Android 2.0 onwards suppots multitouch API's so any developer can develop multitouch Applications.
So many uninformed experts on Android in this thread.
See: http://androidandme.com/2009/10/news/android-2-0-does-indeed-feature-multitouch/
Android 2.0 has full support for multitouch.
Aah, allrighty. You mean a similar click system as the Blackberry Curve uses on webpages.. Sorry, misunderstood..
Actually no, I rarely need to. The multitouch system of the iPhone is so incredibly accurate that I rarely, very rarely need to zoom in. Even when I open this forum and want to jump to a page, in a discussion, than the page number is easily clickable without zooming..
It will be different, for two reasons. First, there were no other android handsets when the G1 came out, therefore there was nobody to undercut. Second, the perception, whether true or not, is that this is the "google phone." Now, they say that HTC designed it - maybe and maybe not. But by virtue of the media hype and this event itself, this is being called Google's phone in a way the Droid, Hero, Magic, etc. are not.
This is not an insignificant point. People will talk about buying the iphone, or a blackberry, or the Google phone. It will join the list of products that enter the general lexicon (personally, I think it will be called the google phone more than the nexus one, but we'll see). No other android device has come even close to attaining that, and if I were any company (other than HTC) making android phones, I would be PISSED today.
I'd try the phone out for a good long while first (whichever model you choose). A friend of mine has an Android phone (brand new, but I forget which piece of hardware) and was trying to use it the other evening to look something up on the web, and also to show me a photo.
Watching all the convoluated steps required just to do such (on the iPhone) simple tasks was an exercise in frustration...things also seemed a little buggy/inconsistent, too.
It *looked* really impressive at a glance, but didn't seem very intuitive OR smooth to operate. It actually reminded me more of a Blackberry interface than anything else (which I've always hated). But it could just be personal preference..my friend loves his Android phone, but then again he's never used an iPhone. Based on what I saw, I wasn't at all impressed with the usability.
+ 19% VAT + 6.5% Customs (on the phone) = 764 USD
Of course, you can always fly over to the US and illegally import the thing, but that's a bit of a stretch in such a comparison.
Still cheaper than an iPhone, but they do need a reason to get people to buy this, right?
I don't work at Google and I don't have a Nexus One, nor have a seen one. However I can bet you any sum of money that you need to remove the 4GB card to insert the 32GB card that you go out and purchase.
That's just a hunch of mine
As for the rest of your argument it's just plain misleading and you really are using the conversion rate to advance your point of view. An unlocked iPhone is not available in the United States, but if it were it would not cost 1007 dollars. A 15" MacBook Pro costs 1799 euros in Germany and by your calculations it would cost 2,593 dollars in the United States. Yet not surprisingly it only costs 1,999 dollars.
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nothing revolutionary?
what else can you add to a phone these days. the only other revolutionary thing they can add is if the phone had a hand that tickled my balls while i walk down the street.
i have owned both phones. iphone and mytouch. when iphone first came out it was the tits. untouchable, revolutionary, expensive(unsubsidized at the time). i ran it for a while, got tired of it and gave it to my mom.
picked up a mytouch. slow as hell, but loads of potential then i loaded htc sense ui onto it and was a lot more fun of a phone. i loved all the notifications on it via led or glowing trackball. so for those wondering the trackball glows different colors depending on whether or not you missed a call (red) or sms(blue) or mms(green) and makes for one hell of a fun centipede joystick and is awesome for onehanded operation. i love being able to customize my homescreen that is what makes my phone different from the next nexus one user next to me, iphone users cannot say that. all my apps aren't sprayed across my homescreen. that is what i hated about the iphone was that its ui was toooooo simple. android can be customized to be either simple or however complex you want it to be via widgets and such but they give YOU the choice to do so with it.
i'm excited for this phone as it addresses the speed issue i had with the mytouch, but retains all the good stuff. guys this is a great phone just like the iphone but in a different flavor. enough with the iphone killer stuff, companies just want to make money. iphone hit phone manufacturers in the mouth a few years ago and now they are going to hit back as you would expect with their best shot. it will be a good fight.
what else can you add to a phone these days. the only other revolutionary thing they can add is if the phone had a hand that tickled my balls while i walk down the street.
i have owned both phones. iphone and mytouch. when iphone first came out it was the tits. untouchable, revolutionary, expensive(unsubsidized at the time). i ran it for a while, got tired of it and gave it to my mom.
picked up a mytouch. slow as hell, but loads of potential then i loaded htc sense ui onto it and was a lot more fun of a phone. i loved all the notifications on it via led or glowing trackball. so for those wondering the trackball glows different colors depending on whether or not you missed a call (red) or sms(blue) or mms(green) and makes for one hell of a fun centipede joystick and is awesome for onehanded operation. i love being able to customize my homescreen that is what makes my phone different from the next nexus one user next to me, iphone users cannot say that. all my apps aren't sprayed across my homescreen. that is what i hated about the iphone was that its ui was toooooo simple. android can be customized to be either simple or however complex you want it to be via widgets and such but they give YOU the choice to do so with it.
i'm excited for this phone as it addresses the speed issue i had with the mytouch, but retains all the good stuff. guys this is a great phone just like the iphone but in a different flavor. enough with the iphone killer stuff, companies just want to make money. iphone hit phone manufacturers in the mouth a few years ago and now they are going to hit back as you would expect with their best shot. it will be a good fight.
You do realize that it supports multi-touch for apps. It's just not enabled on the stock apps.
Android may do multitouch, but THE NEXUS ONE DOESN'T
So, how about informing yourself about the topic we are discussing here (Nexus One, not Android 2.o or 2.1), before you start shouting and being arrogant.
OK Matt - cheers for that. I hadn't realised that you could get an unlocked 16GB 3GS from Apple for $599. That's a good deal! I wish they had a similar deal over here.
