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Aah, allrighty. You mean a similar click system as the Blackberry Curve uses on webpages.. Sorry, misunderstood..

Actually no, I rarely need to. The multitouch system of the iPhone is so incredibly accurate that I rarely, very rarely need to zoom in. Even when I open this forum and want to jump to a page, in a discussion, than the page number is easily clickable without zooming..

That's nothing to do with multi-touch and I've to do it constantly e.g. Boards.ie try navigating that accurately without having to zoom in.
 
...lol..Google stocks are down and thats the best indication of what people think about it.
To be perfectly honest Nexus might have better camera or battery etc but in general its just another smartphone. iPhone got something what others can't get and I don't know what it is. Its like some women got "that something" but you don't know what.
...and no...I am not Apple fanatic...just saying :D



It's pretty common to have a "sell the news" reaction in the stock market. "Buy the rumor, sell the news" is a pretty common mantra amongst traders. GOOG's only down 0.52% in a relatively flat market today...not sure you could read that much into it.

Also, I've seen AAPL sell of pretty hard after a product announcement in the past.
 
was trying to use it the other evening to look something up on the web, and also to show me a photo.

my phone has a search button. you press that speak into the phone what you are looking for and voila comes up on google. i can't see it getting any simpler
 
The Motorola Milestone (European version of the Droid) also features multi-touch.

They already fracture the platform completely unnecessarily! About multitouch, which is a crucial feature. Apps are built around it. Does that mean, you (as a developer) 'll have to build 2 versions of your apps, one that takes advantage of multitouch and one that sports extra UI controls to make up for the loss?

How stupid is that.
 
Um, this just shot OHA in the butt.
You think Motorola is thrilled that undercut the Droid just weeks after its release. Let the infighting begin.

How does it undercut Droid when Droid is CDMA/Verizon network based and this one is GSM Tmobile/ATT based? If anything the more folks on the general Android platform is better. It will be easier for those folks to move to a Motorola phone when they drop a GSM version. Likewise Nexus One keeps the trackball and Droid keeps the keypad. Customers who prefer a keypad will go their way. If unlocked just pull the SIM card and insert into the new phone.

Besides the new software will be available to Moto shortly. Droid with a software updates gets any new software features.

A mostly common software platform between hardware vendors allows the hardware vendors to compete on hardware features. If hardware vendors are afraid of that, they have lack of core competency issues.
If they prove they build better hardware on the next rev Google will help susidize the development of a phone where they are primary builder. The disconnect being thrown out here in the press is that Google is doing *all* of the hardware. They are throwing specs (and presumably money) at phones they want to push the envelope . Apple sure isn't going to help someone going to develop hardware.

If anything this even the playing field for HTC. Droid was first out the door with a 2.0 phone. HTC gets a 2.1 phone. It is not like Google is holding either one of them back in favor for the other.

the open handset alliance is growing.....
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/open-handset-alliance-adds-13-members/

And (http://www.appleinsider.com/article...e_for_t_mobile_verizon_529_contract_free.html)
".... In an effort to calm some concerns that Google would be competing with its partners in the Android Open Handset Alliance, the Mountain View, Calif., company highlighted 13 new members that have joined the alliance Tuesday. The total number of OHA members is currently 52. In all, there are more than 20 Android devices on 59 carriers in 48 countries. ..."

[ there is perhaps a bit of overcounting of devices there; some with very minor differences. ]

Google is goosing the growth of that alliance with this phone; it really isn't about the phone specifically. The perspective is that about a year or so after launch Android is on 59 carriers in 48 countries. How long did it take Apple to get to 48 countries?


Besides, there is a freaking link to buy a Droid on Google's "buy now" page for those who want a verizon phone right now. They would have a problem with that????
 
Android may do multitouch, but THE NEXUS ONE DOESN'T :rolleyes:

So, how about informing yourself about the topic we are discussing here (Nexus One, not Android 2.o or 2.1), before you start shouting and being arrogant.

It most certainly supports multi-touch apps.
 
+ 19% VAT + 6.5% Customs (on the phone) = 764 USD

Of course, you can always fly over to the US and illegally import the thing, but that's a bit of a stretch in such a comparison.

Sorry but you're quite wrong:

1) You don't have to pay VAT or customs for stuff that isn't more than 430 EUR (around 620 USD). (Importing it by mail is different though but even then I get the VAT back :D)

2) No customs for phones (though some custom offices try to tell you that a smartphone is a camera. LOL)
 
They already fracture the platform completely unnecessarily! About multitouch, which is a crucial feature. Apps are built around it. Does that mean, you (as a developer) 'll have to build 2 versions of your apps, one that takes advantage of multitouch and one that sports extra UI controls to make up for the loss?

How stupid is that.

Again, Apps support multi-touch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM1JSFXnQpg
 
4GB is the SD card not Internal

Where does it say 4GB internal? The spec on the site says

Capacity
512MB Flash
512MB RAM
4GB Micro SD Card (Expandable to 32 GB)

Which to me means you get a 4GB Micro SD card in the box.
 
ALL android phones are capable of multitouch. it is just restricted from them in the united states for some infringement i cannot think of right now. anyone willing to jailbreak an iphone would be willing to unlock their multitouch in the US.

my browser on my mytouch3g is multitouch right now ;)
 
...lol..Google stocks are down and thats the best indication of what people think about it.

Given the series of ill-informed and down right misguided commentary on the phone being made on CNBC that outcome isn't very surprising.

Those aren't people selling that is a herd stampeding in random directions the crappy media sends them running toward.
 
Looks like just an evolutionary smart phone to me. Nice and all, great if you're in the market for a non-Apple phone. But hardy a revolutionary game changer!
 
That's nothing to do with multi-touch and I've to do it constantly e.g. Boards.ie try navigating that accurately without having to zoom in.

I agree that that doesn't have anything to do with multitouch. My basic point was that I rarely or better said never need to use any zooming or whatever function on my iPhone to select or navigate accurately, so the usefulness of a trackball to make these things more efficient is wasted on me.

On a device that doesn't have a touchscreen, such as my company's blackberry curve I guess it makes sense, but on a device that supports point, clicking and zooming (double tapping) on the screen it seems a bit double to me.
 
yes, dont know how apple can lead with only one phone model

I agree. But if Apple keeps their "once a year" product cycle for the iPhone, Google stands a very good chance at closing the gap rapidly.

cant agree any more, apple needs more model, quicker cycle.
 
This is not an insignificant point. People will talk about buying the iphone, or a blackberry, or the Google phone. It will join the list of products that enter the general lexicon (personally, I think it will be called the google phone more than the nexus one, but we'll see). No other android device has come even close to attaining that, and if I were any company (other than HTC) making android phones, I would be PISSED today.

You'd have no other option. WebOS, RIM, and OSX are locked down on their respective hardware and WM is a joke. Maybe, and that's a big maybe, when WM7 is released sometime in 2010 or 2011 companies like Motorola will have another option of OS to put on their phones. Until then they're stuck with Android or WM, and Android is just as good as OSX and light years better than WM plus it's open so they pay little to no licensing fees. I think it's too late in the game to come out with a new OS.

So yea, you might be PISSED but unless you want to pull out of the smart phone market you'd have no choice at all.
 
Sorry but you're quite wrong:

1) You don't have to pay VAT or customs for stuff that isn't more than 430 EUR (around 620 USD). (Importing it by mail is different though but even then I get the VAT back :D)

2) No customs for phones (though some custom offices try to tell you that a smartphone is a camera. LOL)

Right, no customs then.
For that you'll have to fly to the US and get one. Did you add these costs to your price or do you just fly over regularly and assume everyone else does, too? Did you see that you can buy an unlocked iPhone in the US for a much better price than in Europe?

Your point doesn't hold.
 
Does that mean, you (as a developer) 'll have to build 2 versions of your apps, one that takes advantage of multitouch and one that sports extra UI controls to make up for the loss?

No. The OS API always supports multitouch.
 
Reed Rothchild said:
Looks great. I can foresee a pincer movement by the Open Handset Alliance that could cause some serious trouble for Apple and the iPhone. It will be fun to watch how this develops.

Um, this just shot OHA in the butt.
You think Motorola is thrilled that undercut the Droid just weeks after its release. Let the infighting begin.

Do you think? I see some serious cause for concern for the iPhone market. Google are doing a classic embrace, extend and extinguish strategy (albeit without the proprietorial aspects, which is what makes it great). I certainly don't expect to see any in-fighting - unless the whole strategy fails of course.
 
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peterdevries said:
Android 2.0 onwards suppots multitouch API's so any developer can develop multitouch Applications.

So many uninformed experts on Android in this thread.

See: http://androidandme.com/2009/10/news/android-2-0-does-indeed-feature-multitouch/

Android 2.0 has full support for multitouch.

Android may do multitouch, but THE NEXUS ONE DOESN'T :rolleyes:

So, how about informing yourself about the topic we are discussing here (Nexus One, not Android 2.o or 2.1), before you start shouting and being arrogant.

Wha does this have to do with android 2.1?

The nexus one runs on the Android 2.1 platform that has full support for multitouch in applications. Is that any clearer?
 
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