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Soon in when?

That a 32GB SD card is $80-100+. I never thought storage would be an issue but I find myself watching video on my iPhone more and more.

I do think this is a good device, but it has some pretty big holes in it. Its main feature seems to be it availability on Verizon.

And the Nexus One and Droid are both under $200. The 32GB iPhone is $399. That's what I call comparably priced.
 
Pretty neat, hopefully this will encourage Apple to push down prices or really starting pushing the iPhone forward.

On the downside it's going to make developing for Android even more painful as there's already a big gap between high-end and low-end devices that you have to try and cater for :(
 
Undercut? According to my math, the Nexus is more expensive than a similarly equipped iPhone, either with or without a contract. Don't forget to add the cost of an SD card to get to comparable storage amounts.

An unlocked Nexus One costs $530 (as I'm in the UK I convert that to £330). I've not seen a brand new iPhone 3GS available for less than $530. In fact a lot of the ones I've seen are touching $1000. Please PM me a link to brand new unlocked iPhone 3GS's under $530 as I may have a cunning new business opportunity brewing :).

Oh, and we can skip the SD costs. I'll throw in a 16GB SD card (or two) as part of the package as they're so cheap anyway.
 
That wont ever happen. I read this is another forum.

For everyone that's waiting for AT&T to get anything other than an iPhone you're sort of missing the reality of what's really going on. If you've noticed, AT&T has yet to receive a single other high-end phone other than the iPhone. This is entirely because of AT&T's relationship with Apple. Not only does AT&T give iPhone users special privileges (early upgrades to new iPhones, etc.), but they also only choose to advertise the iPhone and not anything else (they also subsidized the price greater than they subsidize the price of other devices so as to continue to keep giving the iPhone a sales advantage). They've even declined other products that would essentially compete with the iPhone.

As a result of this relationship pretty much every company has just decided to stop supporting AT&T in the realm of high end smartphones and if you're waiting to receive anything other than an iPhone my guess is that you'll be waiting for a long time because no one is showing any signs of giving AT&T any support whatsoever. When companies are choosing to give T-Mobile support (a smaller carrier) over a larger carrier that tells you a hell of a lot. Hell, even Sprint got a decent Android device.

Actually, AT&T never advertises the iPhone. They don't need to. The closest they are to advertising it is their recent attack ads at Verizon, where 3 of 4 of their selling points can be translated to "we have the iPhone, suck it" but do not actually mention the device. They do say device-specific, but still do not mention the phone.

Additionally, AT&T does still have most of the highest-end BlackBerrys and a few good HTC devices. The iPhone is not their only top-end device. It just happens to be the best :) and AT&T just happens to be their exclusive carrier.

I for one hope for a chip that would allow for the opportunity to choose the carrier I want to give my money to every month.
 
Soon in when?

That a 32GB SD card is $80-100+. I never thought storage would be an issue but I find myself watching video on my iPhone more and more.

I do think this is a good device, but it has some pretty big holes in it. Its main feature seems to be it availability on Verizon.

One of the problems I had with my iPhone 3g 8GB was once I ran out of space my options were:

Get a new iPhone or get a new iPhone. If I'd had the option to add more storage via the cheaper insert an SDHC Card method I it wouldn't have been an issue.

It's not prefect by any stretch of the imagination but you at least have the option of expanding your phone storage if you wanted to upgrade from 2, 4, 8, 16gb sd cards or whatever you have.

EDIT: Another advantage of the SD card method is that you can keep it across multiple devices. I'll be popping my SD card I already own (hence the cost of an SD card isn't an issue for me) from my Hero into my Nexus One once purchased.
 
Won't be much cheaper when you add in the cost of a 32gb SD card.

A 32GB SD card is around 65 EUR, that is around 93 USD on Amazon.de.

The Nexus One (unlocked) comes with 4GB internal + 32 SD = 36 GB. Price: 530 USD + 93 USD = 623 USD.

iPhone 3GS 32 GB (unlocked) comes with... surprise 32GB. Price: 699 EUR which is about 1007 USD.

1007/623 = 1.61

IMHO that is "much cheaper".
 
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In engadgets review they said they found really no purpose for it.

That's because Josh can't do a decent review. The purpose of the trackball on this - as is on the hero, which works very well - is so that extremely precise selections can be made without having to zoom in.
 
A 32GB SD card is around 65 EUR, that is around 93 USD on Amazon.de.

The Nexus One (unlocked) comes with 4GB internal + 32 SD = 36 GB. Price: 530 USD + 93 USD = 623 USD.

iPhone 3GS 32 GB (unlocked) comes with... surprise 32GB. Price: 699 EUR which is about 1007 USD.

1007/623 = 1.61

IMHO that is "much cheaper".

Thanks, that's what I meant to say but jacked up the numbers. :D
 
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read engadgets review on the phone. Its nothing special. They say its a good phone, but nothing earth shattering. I really don't think apple is too worried about this.

I agree.

This video of the 3 phones loading the webpage pretty much says it all. Fancy backgrounds and high rez screens aside, it all comes down to speed and UI and one phone still does it better than them all.
 
Hmm, looks decent, but I don't see much that's revolutionary there. The screen has very nice specs, hopefully that will force Apple to upgrade their display.

The only app I really like is the Map app, the built-in navigation is pretty sweet. And if Apple is going to go it on their own with mapping, as it appears they will, do they have something that can compete? It would suck to lose Google Street View.
 
That's because Josh can't do a decent review. The purpose of the trackball on this - as is on the hero, which works very well - is so that extremely precise selections can be made without having to zoom in.

Which is what unfortunately happens when you have no multitouch.

Ouch.
 
I'm curious to see how reliable the Verizon network really is once the majority of their customer base is using data hungry phones like the iPhone or the Nexus. I'm not a big AT&T fan, but I do understand that their network is suffering due in part to the majority of their customer base using the iPhone. The iPhone consumes more data than any other phone on the market, and no other network carries the burden having that phone has their biggest seller.

Verizon is an AWESOME service right now BECAUSE it doesn't have iPhone. I'm willing to bet that once the playing field is even, and a ton of people jump off the AT&T network and move to Verizon, you're going to see vast improvements on AT&T's end.

Before I make any switches, I'm gonna wait for the masses to jump ship first. I want to see if the Verizon network gets bogged down in a similar fashion. I'd love to see everyone migrate to Verizon because of how bad AT&T has been lately, and in turn free up the AT&T network completely. Everyone to Verizon!

SSSSHHHHHHHH. This is my plan all along. I'm not friend to AT&T, but I got to believe that it will get better when millions spread-out over the other carriers.
 
http://www.google.com/phone/static/en_US-nexusone_tech_specs.html

Some interesting observations one hour in.

The speaker and microphone is positioned so the back of the device is how you talk on the phone. Further the camera being there one could do video conferencing and speakerphone, albiet without seeing the visual on the other end.

The device has high Ghz and low memory and flash (too low?), and SD as the storage medium. This allows a user to switch media when it fills, to shift data easily, but is the OS internal and not on the SD card or does a second card need to have an OS installed if you are a switcher?

It uses the same radio stuff as the iPhone. GSM/EDGE.

It uses micro-USB and interestingly is not in the iPhone ecosystem with a compatible dock connector. :)

It uses an OS with a cute name that begs the question: was the prior iteration "donut"?

The video density and resolution is higher than iPhone roughly 800x480 vs 320x480. I doubt this is meaningful on such a small screen, but I expect Google to hang their hat on it.

The clickable trackball is non-trivial. It makes practical remote desktop and "legacy interface applications".

Rocketman
 
Does anyone know if you can teather with the device? I was wondering if the $39 a month prepaid t-mobile data plan + nexus one would make a good mobile internet device.

I'd actually consider getting the device if I can use if for that purpose.
 
Google is going this direction as Apple closed iPhone i.e. App Store for many Google's apps i.e. their mobile ads. In reality, without Google's services, iPhone would be what Mac computers were before they were switched to Intel processors, nice looking and underpowered.
If it's up to Apple we would have to pay mail, maps and any other "service", same way as for MobileMe. Now Apple is moving to mobile ads (Quattro Wireless), but will this lead to savings for iPhone (iSlate?) owners. Yeah right!
 
That's because Josh can't do a decent review. The purpose of the trackball on this - as is on the hero, which works very well - is so that extremely precise selections can be made without having to zoom in.

I have used the selection/copy/paste function of my iphone just a dozen times in all the time that I have owned it.

I cannot imagine anyone using the selection function that often that it warrants building in a trackball...
 
Maybe the competition will push apple to have a removable battery in the iPhone. Then I would really appreciate Google.

Honestly, on my third iPhone now (each model), and while the battery life isn't great, I've never really found it that big an issue except when they munged up something with one of the OS upgrades. I am a HEAVY user...but I'm always near a car charger, or a desk charger most of the day, and I have a Mophie juice pack for those times I won't be. I really don't think carrying around a few extra batteries in my pocket and replacing them is any better a solution than. It's really old school thinking. That said, I'm always a big fan of better/longer/more battery life for any device.

Don't need a lot of storage for apps. A lot of them are web-based.

Wasn't Apple lambasted over and over when it first released the iPhone and said web-based apps were the way to go? Android phones get a pass on this? I'm pretty uninformed of the Android app situation beyond what you read about number of apps; so is their web-based method as you call it any better than Apple had 2.5 years ago for iPhone OS 1.x?

I'm curious to see how reliable the Verizon network really is once the majority of their customer base is using data hungry phones like the iPhone or the Nexus. I'm not a big AT&T fan, but I do understand that their network is suffering due in part to the majority of their customer base using the iPhone. The iPhone consumes more data than any other phone on the market, and no other network carries the burden having that phone has their biggest seller.

Verizon has it's own set of evils. Read some of Pogue's complaints about billing, and fees, and the Bing fiasco. I agree with you that Verizon would have been just as crushed, and likely still would be, if it had picked up the iPhone, or gets any device that has unlimited data usage, and actually makes it easy to use that data.

99%, really? Also, you create a Google account when you get an Android device.

I took it he meant a Google Checkout account. I guess that comes with all Google accounts, technically, but I've got a dozen Google accounts, and I've never used, and have no interest in using Google checkout. Pretty seemless, is it? Just give Google your credit card number? (Hmmm..just one more bit of private information to Google, there. {sigh})
 
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