You can use a fake email address (that Apple creates) that will forward stuff to your actual email address. This way the site or app don’t get your real email address
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Google Login Chief Lauds Apple Sign In as 'Better for the Internet,' Says Google's Sign In Feature Doesn't Collect Data Either
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You will never have to use the password reset feature because you have no password. Its your Apple ID which is managing this account, as long as you can log in to your Apple account, you will be able to login to the 3rd party service
Some has black hole bruising
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First Google violates user privacy in order to collect data when they have that data it is then abused in multiple ways.
Does anyone else take a step back sometimes and look at the whole security thing and wonder.... if nobody had anything to hide, if we all were above board, and no one behaved poorly or had nefarious desires to take people's information and use them in some sinister way, then we'd need no security. Maybe, long-term we should work on changing how people think and behave. I know this is rather utopian of me, but I always think about it.
Google to begin with offers Google Cloud Platform, Analytics, Google Sheets/Drive/Docs, etc. All have premium tier support that are not free.
Wait... sign in with Google doesn't collect information? I've been avoiding it like the plague. Funny enough, I don't trust them enough to stop avoiding it. Kind of like Facebook telling people that they can add their phone number and that it wouldn't be used for anything except verification. Then, lo and behold, last year they started using it for "search for people by phone number" without asking for permission. That's why you don't give them the information...
This is a normal thing. If you believe (again, here in Canada) that a company isn't being truthful, you are allowed (freely without any barriers) to demand from their privacy commissioner a copy of their full privacy rules. And a complete audit of all their data (on you). Failure to comply with this, then allows the claimant (you or I) to submit a claim to the office of the privacy commissioner who will launch a legal review and audit (if deemed appropriate) of the company, with power to recommend fines, or criminal action against the offending company, and / or it's directors.
I believe there were several times where the Canadian government has had to outright tell Facebook to fix their policies or be banned from Canada.
Now, I can't speak directly to it's effectiveness as I've never felt the need to claim. But its regulation here in Ontario that virtually all office employees basically have to learn it (or all companies I've worked in)
And you can even publicly view and read past investigations and findings https://www.priv.gc.ca/en/opc-actions-and-decisions/investigations/investigations-into-businesses/
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But it's also misguided a bit.
It's not that I have nothing to hide. I have things that are "MINE". I know, selfish. And I don't want others being able to steal them. The more data that is out there about me, especially in one concentrated place, the easier it would be for some would be attacker to gain access to it. A would be thief doesn't need to have access to know who I am, what I own, what I do, where I'll be, etc.
Companies that collect my personal data, need to understand that they are being given pieces of a key that unlocks access to me and my stuff. And I don't want those in the wrong hands.
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See, there’s a couple of reasons that this is a bad idea. If there is no security, all of a sudden, you may have a bunch of fake texts in your message history, and the DBI is looking for you because you were involved in some terror attack, and masterminded the whole thing. It’s clear you purchased the explosives for the attack, as it’s right there on your credit card statement.
I admit, this may seem like a far fetched idea, but if we open ourselves up to this type of thing by not allowing security, it would happen. Most likely in the political world, because the mud slinging there is awful. Security plays an important role for a wide variety of ideas. Sure, we can teach people to be better, but we didn’t end up in a bureaucratic society because everyone followed the rules, we are here because some buttface decided to buttface it up. That’s why security is so important.
Apple last week unveiled a new Sign In with Apple option, offering up a convenient, privacy-focused alternative to sign-in options from companies like Google, Facebook, and Twitter.
Apple collects no data and provides little data to the apps and websites you use with the feature, and it even offers an option to keep your email safe. In an interview with The Verge, Google product management director Mark Risher, who oversees Google's secure sign in tool, shared his thoughts on Apple's new feature.
Risher says that Google's own tool is not as data hungry as it was made out to be, and that it's not used for advertising or re-targeting. "There was a bunch of innuendo wrapped around the release that suggested that only one of them is pure and the rest of them are kind of corrupt, and obviously I don't like that," he said.
The only moment logged is the moment of authentication, according to Risher, info that's not distributed anywhere. Risher also suggested Apple's feature is more invasive because it will be logging emails received from companies when the email obscuring feature is used. "We'll see how the details work out," he said.
Risher went on to explain that Google tries to "set a very high bar" but is judged by the "worst behavior" in the Android ecosystem. He said the innuendo from Apple that Google's tool is less privacy focused "was a little annoying" because Google is "trying to really hold [itself] to a high standard."
Ultimately, Risher said that he believes the technology will make people safer.Risher likened log-in protection offered by Google and Apple to storing money in a bank to alleviate fears people might have about having all of their login data handled by a single company like Apple or Google.Risher's full interview with is available on The Verge website and is worth checking out, but Google today is also making its own privacy-focused feature announcement for iOS users - the ability to use an Android smartphone as a two-factor verification key for logging into Google accounts.
Starting today, iPhone and iPad users with an Android smartphone can use the Android security key feature to verify their logins to Google accounts from the Android device.
The feature utilizes Google's Smart Lock App as part of a two-step verification system designed to keep Google accounts safer. After the security key feature is added to an Android device, it can be set up to pair with the iPhone to confirm logins over Bluetooth.
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You will need it if you ever want to disconnect Apple from the service's login. In a way it is a pretty serious lock-in when using the email obfuscation feature.
Didn't fool you did they, you're a genius. *pats you on the back*
Not even close. But since I've spent the past several weeks switching from one security software to another, it has occurred to me that we spend a tremendous amount of time, effort and money not to present something cool to the world, but to keep thieves and vandals out. Imagine what could be done with that energy instead. Such a waste.
Apple, please, pretty pretty please create your own search engine, improve on maps and have street view available outside USA ASAP - and kick Google out of its misery.
Yes they are, about 9 billion deep. Thats what they take from google to have them as default search engine ...
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Until you live in china, get drunk and make a scene in public, your social score drops below zero and all your accounts are locked.... because apple is on forefront of social scoring. Everyone claps at apple for not monetising user data while they are doing far more nefarious things with it.
Well the normal process to disconnect would be to ask the user for an email and a password then and "register an account" like always. You will have to verify your account again with something if you want to switch your auth provider. And probably double, once from a verification email to your fake apple address to confirm you want to disconnect and once to confirm this new email address is actually yours.
With a auth provider like that your identifier isnt the email address you give the service. You cant use this email and put it in a textfield on a login form (you dont even have a password). The reason the service gets an email from you (your real one or a fake one) is to contact and give you transactional communication for stuff like confirmations, invoices etc. (or ads if you want to go there.)
Your posts are tall with innuendo and short on specifics.
So please cite the nefarious things Apple is doing with your data.First paragraph was a reply to the claim that Apple "arent in the data or search engine business" - wich i think is wrong because but they have a 9 Billion USD deal with google that facilitates data exchange with the two companies.Your posts are tall with innuendo and short on specifics.
Second paragraph i won't go into details, won't waste my time for something that will just be deleted because of PSRI MacRumors guidelines.
Journalists, please ask him about the "universal identifier," and please join the movement to spread the word about it. Google effectively hides this, but it is how they are creating virtual dossiers on humans worldwide. The UI is Google's way to hide the dossiers.
When you query what is in your Google account, the vast majority of information and intelligence they've gathered on you never shows up. How can that be? Because Google has amassed more information than anyone could imagine, not only through use of Google accounts, but also by a myriad of devices such as buying data from data brokers, and by placing trackers on your use of the web. For example, even though I don't use any Google products, there are a minimum of four trackers that Google is currently trying to install on my current session of Macrumors. If I wasn't using Ghostery to block them, Google would have the information on everything I searched, clicked, posted, etc., and then follow me cross site. All without my permission or "knowledge."
What would Google do with this? This is where the UI comes in. Google tries to link web addresses, etc., to a particular person and it then links every bit of data, maps, photos, documents, financial data, families, etc., to that Identity it has assigned to a person. That's where Google Sign on comes in. They don't have to share it, because the purpose is to provide yet another linkage of your world into their UI system. Again, since it is only linked virtually it would never be disclosed to an individual BECAUSE IT DOESN"T EXIST AS A SINGLE FILE, but Google's computers can instantly link it for whatever advertising, or other use, they deem. While the massive panopticon system Google has built goes far beyond their own "Free" services, this is the answer to the question the small number of people who read Google's TOS about why Google would want a PERPETUAL and WORLDWIDE license to use things like the photos you upload "for free" to Google Photos. Google's virtual dossiers are built with the intent to keep that data forever on you and your family because it is all linked together!
This is the single biggest threat to privacy and security that exists. Spread the word.
When you query what is in your Google account, the vast majority of information and intelligence they've gathered on you never shows up. How can that be? Because Google has amassed more information than anyone could imagine, not only through use of Google accounts, but also by a myriad of devices such as buying data from data brokers, and by placing trackers on your use of the web. For example, even though I don't use any Google products, there are a minimum of four trackers that Google is currently trying to install on my current session of Macrumors. If I wasn't using Ghostery to block them, Google would have the information on everything I searched, clicked, posted, etc., and then follow me cross site. All without my permission or "knowledge."
What would Google do with this? This is where the UI comes in. Google tries to link web addresses, etc., to a particular person and it then links every bit of data, maps, photos, documents, financial data, families, etc., to that Identity it has assigned to a person. That's where Google Sign on comes in. They don't have to share it, because the purpose is to provide yet another linkage of your world into their UI system. Again, since it is only linked virtually it would never be disclosed to an individual BECAUSE IT DOESN"T EXIST AS A SINGLE FILE, but Google's computers can instantly link it for whatever advertising, or other use, they deem. While the massive panopticon system Google has built goes far beyond their own "Free" services, this is the answer to the question the small number of people who read Google's TOS about why Google would want a PERPETUAL and WORLDWIDE license to use things like the photos you upload "for free" to Google Photos. Google's virtual dossiers are built with the intent to keep that data forever on you and your family because it is all linked together!
This is the single biggest threat to privacy and security that exists. Spread the word.
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You’re on the wrong forum if you’re trying to spread the word. Try being more proactive on non Apple forums
Ok. The payment proved nothing other than google paid Apple some amount of money. That’s the fact. Other speculation is conjecture.
Ok. More speculation. Start a thread in the appropriate forum then.
Lol, we know exactly why google pays apple $9 billion in 2018 and $12 billion in 2019.
"Google will reportedly pay Apple $9 billion in 2018 and $12 billion in 2019 to remain as Safari’s default search engine, according to Business Insider."...
..."“We believe Apple is one of the biggest channels of traffic acquisition for Google,” the report said, according to Business Insider."...
[*]http://fortune.com/2018/09/29/google-apple-safari-search-engine/
If you really don't have a clue why they pay apple billions its time to educate yourself on the issue.
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I think it's a bigger picture than just twisting truth in an instance. If the internet begins to adopt Apple Sign-In, regardless of Apple's statements and even technical inaccuracies when comparing to other sign-in services, it shows that people want to maintain their privacy and actually value it. Even if Apple's approach was worse for privacy, it's still important that people show support for the tech company who they trust. We all share common values for life, safety, health, justice, etc. but we still have not adopted a common standard of privacy that we can all agree upon. Until we get that, the details or tech company really don't matter that much.