It appears you are correct. I was not aware of that, but am now. Yep, Jony wants no buttons.
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It appears you are correct. I was not aware of that, but am now. Yep, Jony wants no buttons.
Darth Tulhu
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This looks better than the previous Pixel phones, but no buttons at all may be a non-starter for me.
I want pure Android, but I prefer Samsung's hardware design, and I can live with their Android version even if I don't LOVE it.
My Note8 is so good I have ZERO phone envy to ANYTHING out there, even after almost 2 years. I'd rather have a top bezel than the stupid, intrusive notches or hole punches.
I want pure Android, but I prefer Samsung's hardware design, and I can live with their Android version even if I don't LOVE it.
My Note8 is so good I have ZERO phone envy to ANYTHING out there, even after almost 2 years. I'd rather have a top bezel than the stupid, intrusive notches or hole punches.
You seem pretty invested in this. Why do you care whether or not Google puts out a phone? You should contact them directly so they know how you feel.
Interesting render, but it really comes down to one thing, the consumer isn’t choosing the hardware, they’re staying loyal to the platform they choose, rather it be android or iOS. That’s what matters most, and I think where Apple really has a grasp is their ecosystem/iOS over android. I still think competition is a good thing in a hardware sense, but it’s difficult to compete against the fluidity/stability and security of iOS.
Darth Tulhu
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Do you levitate your phone with your telekinesis powers?
I'm at the point that when I pick up my Note8 it's unlocked BEFORE I can see the screen because my finger goes straight to the reader on it's own.
I think iPhone users just look at their phone and stare at their home screens all say. They dont use their fingers to interact with it.Do you levitate your phone with your telekinesis powers?
I'm at the point that when I pick up my Note8 it's unlocked BEFORE I can see the screen because my finger goes straight to the reader on it's own.
Removing the headphone jack on phones like this is another example of Android phone companies copying questionable Apple designs into their phones. Google claims that USB-C delivers higher quality sound than the jack. That's bogus. As with Apple iPhones, removal of the jack means the phone doesn't need an internal DAC for analog sound delivery. You have four alternatives: buy bluetooth headphones with onboard DAC and sound latency (depending on signal strength); find a USB-C headphone with quality reliant upon DAC(s) in the headphone; buy a USB-C to 3.5mm dongle with DAC in the dongle for use with wired headphones without internal DACs (most high quality wired headphones are in this category, depending on signal delivered being analog); buy a USB-C dongle to deliver digital signal to an external DAC, either in the wired headphone itself or as a separate component. Most sound aficionados looking for portability prefer phones with high quality internal DACs delivering an analog signal through the 3.5 mm jack, hopefully to end up via a wire to top line wired headphones. Latency is minimized, the DAC is of consistent quality as specified in the phone design (don't need to worry about variable DAC quality in various dongles and/or headphones); and there is no worry with charging headphone batteries and/or phone batteries. A phone with a jack can be charged independently of the sound being piped from the jack to the headphone. If you're on a long plane flight, for example, you can charge your phone while still listening on your wired headphones which have no batteries to be charged. It's a dead horse with Apple, as they'll never backtrack on removal of the jack. So far, companies like LG still design phones with high quality sound production as a priority. There may be others of which I'm not aware, but LG V20/30/40 phones deliver superb sound to wired headphones. For sound, they're even superior to the 6S/6S+, the last iPhones with jacks. The LG Vx phones have better internal DACs (I've purchased both a V20 and a V40 since my last iPhone purchase - a 6S+). Unless Apple produces a relatively cheap iPhone (< $500) I likely won't buy another. I'll hold onto my 6S+ until it croaks or is no longer supported for battery replacement.
Dear Apple,
There doesn't need to be a bump on a phone/tablet. A bump is dumb.
Without bumps people can actually use their devices on a flat surface. (without dressing it up).
Users have waited enough years for iPads and iPhones without bumps.
So yes the Bump is a huge design flaw period. Can you deal with the design flaw Apple?
Thank you.
There doesn't need to be a bump on a phone/tablet. A bump is dumb.
Without bumps people can actually use their devices on a flat surface. (without dressing it up).
Users have waited enough years for iPads and iPhones without bumps.
So yes the Bump is a huge design flaw period. Can you deal with the design flaw Apple?
Thank you.
Based on the research, apple just needs their logo on anything and their loyal customers would buy it.
I might be getting too old or cheap but I have zero desire for a new phone (from anybody) - I can afford it but I haven't seen a must have/can't believe my phone is doing x for the last 3 phone cycles.
Darth Tulhu
macrumors 68020
I honestly don't think that that is the number one reason the masses stick with Apple.
I think Apple cachet comes first, then platform love (iMessage!!) is second. Not to say that the quality is not there as you say, but it was only until I decided to give Android a fair shake that I discovered features that trumped anything Apple provides, even to this day.
But, given I'm a macOS diehard, what I really want is all the features I love about Android and Android hardware in an iOS device.
I could even live without the headphone jack.
Looks like a nice phone, although pretty standard for Android nowadays. I always said, if I liked Android and didn't care about privacy, I would likely go with a Pixel. I think that's the closest tied ecosystem similar to Apple. In the end, not worth it, plus I don't like Android and value privacy.
Not all the time - just when you need a convenient way to authenticate not reliant on infrared radiation. Until they removed it, Apple had the best touch ID mechanism on the market. Wish they had retained it, at least on one of their models.
I chose the Pixel over other Android phones partly for the fingerprint reader. I hate face id and having the reader on the back of the phone makes for an extremely fluid user experience *for me.
Sucks that their hardware sales are not improving however bc I love my phone. They should do better market research - Android users love juicy specs and wimping out on the RAM was probably a bad idea. Granted, I've yet to have a RAM related issue but it does look a bit crap on paper especially when compared to the exploding mid-tier smartphone market. Also, I'm sure the Pixel 3 screen issues deterred many people.
Then we differ, when it comes to Apple, the competition hardware is equally as good as Apples in many respects, but that’s not what it’s about, it’s about the loyalty to iOS/products that others devote to Apples ecosystem seamlessly, and in today’s day of digital era, Apples security is unmatched. Those are core reasons why Apple/iOS is so dominant.
Ditto. I dislike the ginormous notch, but the Pixel 3XL (and the whole Pixel 3 line) is excellent. Google is now the #3 premium OEM in the USA for a reason. If the Pixel 4 looks like this render, it should be a winner.
Accelerometer, but yeah. There have been apps that would interpret violent shaking as a potential rage-quit, and ask for feedback on the app.
Alternatively, how about hardware hooked up to the microphone that resets if it detects you suddenly yelling at it extremely loudly?
Until the last few years, that has been correct. The times they are a changin' ...
I'm just pointing out the facts. Google's hardware is a failure. Nothing wrong with that. I own GOOGL shares because they are a great company. They just can't make a dent in the hardware space, so I'd rather them stop trying.
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Nonsense. A lot more goes into Apple's products than a logo and blind loyalty. They work, they are supported, they last a long time, industry leading silicon, etc.
You didn't technically rule out paying over $650 for a budget phone though. May I interest you in the XR?
Darth Tulhu
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To be clear, I think Apple has all those things, and many in Apple's iOS camp love those features, but I really don't think the masses think about those (relatively techy) things specifically.
My theory is that the masses follow trendiness, and Apple is unquestionably the "trendiest" company there is.
Kids (I have 4 teens) bully non-Apple users. Apple users not "tolerating" green bubbles is actually a thing:
https://www.dailydot.com/irl/android-relationship-iphone/
https://www.hercampus.com/school/psu/no-green-bubbles-allowed
https://gizmodo.com/im-buying-an-iphone-because-im-ashamed-of-my-green-bubb-1787965756
But we can agree to disagree.
I hate the stupid face scanning. I used to pull my phone out of my pocket while simultaneously pushing the home button and activating the fingerprint reader. By the time I looked at the screen, it was unlocked and ready to go.
Now I have to pull it out, tap the screen, swipe up, stare intensely at the phone, wait for it to unlock. So freaking annoying, especially when I am in bed at different angles or have covers over my face.
If the capacitive button is hardware controlled and reliable, it might be sufficient, but if it’s a polite request to software to please shut down then I see problems ahead...
Wow. I had no idea choice of phones was a source of teen friction. That apparently wears off by the time they get to college, as the students I observe frequently in Austin (mostly University of Texas) don't seem to care in regard to Apple / non-Apple devices, either with phones or laptops. It would appear that phone choices are fairly evenly split between iPhones and Android, and the last few years - with removal of ports and QC issues for MacBooks - PC's are gaining the edge. It's becoming increasingly rare to see new MBPs and MacBooks, as most of the Mac laptops I see still retain the lit up Apple logo, so are likely pre-2016 models. Bullying over phones - that's sad.
It's gonna be amusing to see how many people hate the notch, but then find the hole-punch design beautiful and appealing, when it's essentially the same thing... usable screen space taken up by cameras.
I don't mind the notch either, but do find the hole-punch design quite aesthetic. But Apple's design would likely be a centred, much longer hole-punch, and I suspect they'd still get flack for that.
Glad to see Google raising the bar. Sounds like they had really messed up with the 3, so hopefully the 4 will remedy those issues and make a killer top-end phone to compete with the industry gold standard — iPhone.