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Google seriously should give up on hardware. It's a failure.

They should stick to ads.
2XL is honestly one of the best phones I've had. I love it.
[doublepost=1558110064][/doublepost]Not crazy about the lack of physical buttons. Also as long as I can still have the setting to hide the punch out in a system setting to push the screen down, I'm game.
 
Google seriously should give up on hardware. It's a failure.

They should stick to ads.
lol, OK. The Pixel phones and the Nexus phones before them are amazing devices. It is THE best way to experience pure Android. Your comment just makes you look like an ignorant fool.
 
It's gonna be amusing to see how many people hate the notch, but then find the hole-punch design beautiful and appealing, when it's essentially the same thing... usable screen space taken up by cameras.
That was my thought as well— it’s not like the pixels above or to the right of the camera are useful in any way...
 
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lol, OK. The Pixel phones and the Nexus phones before them are amazing devices. It is THE best way to experience pure Android. Your comment just makes you look like an ignorant fool.

He's a pro-Apple bot just trying to astroturf for stock gains.
 
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lol, OK. The Pixel phones and the Nexus phones before them are amazing devices. It is THE best way to experience pure Android. Your comment just makes you look like an ignorant fool.

I don't think he's trying to say they are bad phones, just that they don't sell. I actually think they are pretty nice (aside from the 3) also, but they aren't selling. If a product/service isn't doing well, Google typically just gives up on it.
 
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Google seriously should give up on hardware. It's a failure.

They should stick to ads.

It is better than the tumor like camera setup found on 2019 iPhone and no notch is way better. Looks like Apple is seriously give up on hardware design.
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It’s no use talking facts to the fanboys. They already locked their mindset to what they wanted.

Like most Apple fans do?
 
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Ah... that's tough... no buttons what so ever. I feel like a power button and volume up/down buttons are essential. Then again I thought plastic keyboards were essential for smartphones 12 years ago
 
I'm just pointing out the facts. Google's hardware is a failure. Nothing wrong with that. I own GOOGL shares because they are a great company. They just can't make a dent in the hardware space, so I'd rather them stop trying.

They shouldn't be trying to make a dent in the hardware space. They should be trying to showcase Android and creating a direction for the Android O.E.M.'s to follow.

This the same for the Microsoft Surface line.

Neither Google nor Microsoft should be attempting to compete with their O.E.M.'s. They should be showcasing their software and setting a direction for development.
 
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Nonsense. A lot more goes into Apple's products than a logo and blind loyalty. They work, they are supported, they last a long time, industry leading silicon, etc.

iPhones only have multi year os support cause apple sells each iPhone model for multiple years. I prefer to not buy "day old bread".

If you bought a iPhone SE this year, you're only getting 9 months of OS support.
 
A total failure, apart from creating probably the best phone under $500 and easily one of the best cameras in a smartphone.

But financially, he's not wrong. If nobody are buying them, St some point Google is likely to throw in the towel, as they're often prone to do.

lol, OK. The Pixel phones and the Nexus phones before them are amazing devices. It is THE best way to experience pure Android. Your comment just makes you look like an ignorant fool.

Pixel cameras are amazing...that's about where amazing ends. Display, speed, battery life, design (re: the giant notch) are mediocre to good at best. Nexus devices we're never superior at anything...they were just cheaper vs flagship counterparts at those times.

And before I'm accused of being an Apple homer, I'm typing this from my Pixel 3 XL and have owned every generation of Google phones since the Galaxy Nexus.

I don't think he's trying to say they are bad phones, just that they don't sell. I actually think they are pretty nice (aside from the 3) also, but they aren't selling. If a product/service isn't doing well, Google typically just gives up on it.

This exactly.
 
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Well, their phone cameras (hardware + software) are apparently among the best.

Their cameras and software SUCK for video, based on everything I've read. To me, that negates any advantage the camera may have for specialty situations like night shots.

In contrast, the iPhone takes outstanding video. It's also fast enough to edit it efficiently.
 
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If Apple keeps stretching their margins the way they have been, I might end up getting one of these someday...
 
Awwwww yes. A return to form after the not-so-pretty 3XL. Really stoked.
 
If that also means no usb for charging (or to dongle a headphone jack) that's going to be weird.
 
Google seriously should give up on hardware.

Google wifi. Everything Nest. All highly rated by owners.

There's nothing inherently flawed in their phone's engineering. If they vet their suppliers' and contractors' QC better, there would be few complaints. Those lucky enough to receive a non-defective unit say the phone is their favorite.
 
The weird thing about this render is that the front and rear cameras are placed on the same side of the device... I wonder how they will manage to cram them in there without the device being super thick.
 
No 5G no buy. Same goes for this year’s iPhone. I know that 5G won’t be overly relevant to people in most countries this year - but Switzerland will have almost complete coverage by the end of November.

Apart from that: google data collection mania has gone too far for me anyway.
 
Gross, it has a headphone jack.

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Give it up already

Why? I used the headphone jack in my phone today and pretty much every day. Sure I can buy wireless headphones but the AirPods don't fit in my ears, I have no inclination to try the Galaxy Buds at this time, and I have a number of really nice wired headphones (most of then the Apple in-ear headphones) that sound decent and don't need charging… and that's more convenient for me that whatever it is that does need charging. This is even taking into account I can flip my phone over to charge those wireless headphones anywhere and whenever I want.
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Removing the headphone jack on phones like this is another example of Android phone companies copying questionable Apple designs into their phones. Google claims that USB-C delivers higher quality sound than the jack. That's bogus. As with Apple iPhones, removal of the jack means the phone doesn't need an internal DAC for analog sound delivery. You have four alternatives: buy bluetooth headphones with onboard DAC and sound latency (depending on signal strength); find a USB-C headphone with quality reliant upon DAC(s) in the headphone; buy a USB-C to 3.5mm dongle with DAC in the dongle for use with wired headphones without internal DACs (most high quality wired headphones are in this category, depending on signal delivered being analog); buy a USB-C dongle to deliver digital signal to an external DAC, either in the wired headphone itself or as a separate component. Most sound aficionados looking for portability prefer phones with high quality internal DACs delivering an analog signal through the 3.5 mm jack, hopefully to end up via a wire to top line wired headphones. Latency is minimized, the DAC is of consistent quality as specified in the phone design (don't need to worry about variable DAC quality in various dongles and/or headphones); and there is no worry with charging headphone batteries and/or phone batteries. A phone with a jack can be charged independently of the sound being piped from the jack to the headphone. If you're on a long plane flight, for example, you can charge your phone while still listening on your wired headphones which have no batteries to be charged. It's a dead horse with Apple, as they'll never backtrack on removal of the jack. So far, companies like LG still design phones with high quality sound production as a priority. There may be others of which I'm not aware, but LG V20/30/40 phones deliver superb sound to wired headphones. For sound, they're even superior to the 6S/6S+, the last iPhones with jacks. The LG Vx phones have better internal DACs (I've purchased both a V20 and a V40 since my last iPhone purchase - a 6S+). Unless Apple produces a relatively cheap iPhone (< $500) I likely won't buy another. I'll hold onto my 6S+ until it croaks or is no longer supported for battery replacement.

I have to say, I have no idea what you were going on about for most of that and my eyes crossed over in there middle. However, I think we're both on the same page.
 
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