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Google Pixel 4 Leaks Suggest Punch-Hole Selfie Camera and Total Lack of Physical Buttons
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What are you even talking about? I've owned both for years and have a far lower cost basis than market. I never said I got in on the IPO and that has zero relevance.
You must not own shares in anything if you think "buy shares in succeeding companies" is all there is to it. Stocks go up and down and successful companies don't always translate to great investments.
I bought AAPL before Warren Buffett...put it that way. My favorite holding time is forever, so I'm not a trader.
It's a failure because you personally don't like it? It is massively successful in Asia and even if not a single American bought it, it would still be very successful and profitable.
Another point: the hardware IS their way of sticking to ads. Google doesn't care to make a profit on the devices themselves; it's about the data generated from users that they are after.
You have never used a Pixel, though, I can tell because while it is not for everyone, I don't think anyone who uses it even for 20 minutes would make a statement like that. It's a beautiful experience.
Why?
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+1 Headphone jack (I know...it ain't coming back) --This is a BIG one. Possible dealbreaker
-- Fingerprint reader (also not coming back) --I could use an iPhone 8 though
-- Stylus (I use a Note for a reason) --not a dealbreaker though
+1 No notch
+1 USB-C --Dealbreaker. NOT buying anything "lightning". Ever.
-- MicroSD --less important these days, but still convenient if I'm buying, not leasing, the phone
Software:
+1000! Back button --This is a BIG one
+1 Close all
-- Home screen customization
-1 Themes (I personalize most of my stuff)
+1 Dex
I'm surprised it isn't doing better. Sure it's not the best hardware or value. But it is a vanilla Android phone which gets OS and security updates right away. Plus it is close enough to other flagships. That's why I bought a Pixel. It's a nice enough phone. It's quick, has a decent screen and takes nice pictures. As it is getting Android Q. I won't be updating this year.
I'd only consider an iPhone, Pixel or Android One device. Unless Xiaomi, HTC, Oppo, Samsung, &c release a flagship Android One phone. I couldn't picture buying one. Waiting months for an OS upgrade is a deal breaker for me.
Although Samsung is the most tempting with a DeX station and Exynos CPU. These phones are powerful enough now to be paired with a keyboard, mouse and monitor. If they offered 4K@60hz support. I might be lured over. Even if I had to deal with Bixby and their heavily modified Android which gets infrequent and severely delayed upgrades.
Headphone jack is pointless in this day and age. There's Bluetooth headphones everywhere. I have 3 different pairs. People seriously need to move on.
Fingerprint reader is coming. In screen. Maybe this year, next year at the latest.
I've had notes, never used the stylus, never had a need. Though we do have the apple pencil to use with the 12.9" ipad pro as it makes sense for the workflow used there.
I'm not crazy about the notch, but it's not so bad. You do get used to it pretty quickly.
USB-C doesn't matter much. You're just plugging in to something. Though expect it next year. ipad pros already have it.
Don't care about microSD. Phones have more than enough storage these days.
You get used to no back button. So used to it that going back to an android phone feels weird. I know as I was just playing with my old android phone last night and at first couldn't figure out how to go back and it felt awkward compared to the iphone. I thought this would be a HUGE dealbreaker when I switched to iphone, it wasn't.
Close all doesn't seem needed. There really isn't a need to go through and close all apps, not if memory management works well and it does in modern phones. I haven't bothered to close apps in ages. No issues whatsoever.
Don't care about themes. I've used various launches on android but I've always settled with my apps neatly organized in folders, same as I do on IOS. I've also rooted and rom'd and tweaked for hours on end. I'm kinda over it now.
Dex seems cool though. Apple filed a patent long ago for something similar.
I had considered revisiting android but android tablets suck, android wear sucks, android auto isn't as good as carplay(though it's being updated, looks better!) Nothing like the apple health app. They're adding a screen time equivalent in Q so that's good. Updates are still an issue. Some of that will be resolved with the next generation of phones with Q but not for full OS updates. And of course, privacy, but it seems they're making some changes here. Scrolling isn't as smooth as IOS. It may be fast but it's not smooth. Maybe some don't notice it but it bugs me. I do have android tv and that sucks compared to ATV.
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My point is that your performance-based evidence is no substitute for prognostication. How well a company is currently doing tells you nothing about their prospects, only their preparedness.
As I thought, you are not a trader. You are another me too shareholder. A trader wouldn't spend an inornate amount of time on a brand fan site doing "research". He wouldn't obsess over a single stock or two. He would be looking for the next potential headline maker.
Android Auto runs circles around car play - it’s one of the few major things I’m missing since switching to iOS. Google fit is just as good as Apple health. But google will steal your data and monetize on it.
Oh, ok. I'm using a completely failed device that works WAY better for my need than iOS ever could. I'll remember that when I can use firefox's gecko rather than safari's webview. Or download apps from wherever I want. Or have a system wide adblocker. Or a fantastic single lens camera.
This is my ****ing problem with your people on this website. Crying about people that use Android, when it works for them. Sorry I don't want to spend $1400 on a phone that I'm practically renting from a company lmao ffs man.
Well I have both android auto and carplay and would disagree.
Google fit has nothing on apple health. It certainly doesn't pull in your health data from hospitals. It doesn't track all the metrics I track. It barely does anything. I track weight, BMI, skeletal mass, visceral fat, cholesterol, blood pressure, nutrients. I'm simplifying it as I do track much much more. Google fit is not even remotely close.
Based on research, Google's smart phone market share has gone up considerably since the launch of the pixel, compared to Apple's which is on a decline since approximately the same time period
This. It's inevitable that at some point there will be a bug that locks up the phone and makes the touch-sensitive areas unresponsive, so then you'll be forced to wait for your battery to run down before you can use your phone again.
For those of you without a Pixel who are complaining about the 4 not having physical buttons, head this:. The Pixel 2 and 3 have the typical volume to keep and a power button. They also have a pressure button that is used by squeezing the phone. This pressure sensitive button is functionally the same as a physical button and is quite useful. It would be uncharacteristic of Google to NOT include this very defining trait. I suspect the Pixel 4 will have a capacitive power and volume rocker in addition to the pressure sensitive squeeze button. Further, I would bet that a long squeeze will bring up the power/reset menu.
And, yes, the Pixel 2 I am using is such a great phone that I haven't seen a phone that is much of an upgrade from mine. It takes great pictures (unlimited online free storage!!!), Has a great screen, and the "always on" display is probably the best idea ever. Oh, I also like the way it tells me the name of every song that it can hear. Simply awesome!
And, yes, the Pixel 2 I am using is such a great phone that I haven't seen a phone that is much of an upgrade from mine. It takes great pictures (unlimited online free storage!!!), Has a great screen, and the "always on" display is probably the best idea ever. Oh, I also like the way it tells me the name of every song that it can hear. Simply awesome!
This is a great design. No notch and most importantly it has a headphone jack. This is a big one. It was a singularly stupid decision of Apple to needlessly drop the headphone jack.
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No idea why that would be the case. Having a headphone jack alone is a huge advantage.
Bud, all smartphone companies are down in volume Q1 19 vs 18 other than Huawei. Apple was down the most of the big companies at -30%. Everyone but Huawei putting out terrible smartphone hardware? Especially Apple? You can't judge the quality of a product strictly on sales success.
I would never buy one because I don't trust Google. But with that said, I have to agree with you about the style. I do wonder how you would trigger a hard reset without any physical buttons but if Google has that figured out, I think it is a neat design. If they dropped the headphone jack and went wireless charging only, they could offer a phone with incredible water intrusion resistance.
Beats a S10 with their horrible curved edge screen!! Thats all I care about and hope Apple and Google never adopt!! I am skeptical of the lack of hardware buttons.. I mean I can only imagine the issues trying to find the volume down button then hitting power or volume up.. you can still do it with physical buttons but its a lot less likely.
I actually really like the curved edge screen. I've owned one and the display was great!
There are some on this site that equate $$$ to success. To be fair, most of the time they are correct. But in this case, where the company is vastly more invested in cloud services than hardware, I don’t believe their definition of success is valid.
Microsoft has made many good moves under Nadella. I count him as one of the top CEOs of the 21st century. The same with Bezos. But both failed in getting and keeping their own smartphone out in the market. They have little direct influence on the direction and development of a device, that for the foreseeable future, is going to define how humanity communicates, interacts, and conducts business.
Google does. I’d say that they’ve upped their game immensely with their contributions to the smartphone market to the extent that with minuscule sales compared to Apple, they have at least equal prestige in the smartphone market when it comes to what features and capabilities manufacturers release.
Pixel is only a ‘failure’ if your viewpoint is limited.
Microsoft has made many good moves under Nadella. I count him as one of the top CEOs of the 21st century. The same with Bezos. But both failed in getting and keeping their own smartphone out in the market. They have little direct influence on the direction and development of a device, that for the foreseeable future, is going to define how humanity communicates, interacts, and conducts business.
Google does. I’d say that they’ve upped their game immensely with their contributions to the smartphone market to the extent that with minuscule sales compared to Apple, they have at least equal prestige in the smartphone market when it comes to what features and capabilities manufacturers release.
Pixel is only a ‘failure’ if your viewpoint is limited.
No, the jack is pointless for folks who don't prioritize sound, folks like you who prefer convenience to quality. That's okay. You obviously have a lot of company. Moving on, yes. Apple used to cater to the artsy/music production folks. They have stopped doing that as a priority. So, we have no new Mac Pros, we have portless MBP's, we have jackless iPhones and iPads. That's okay with people like you. It isn't okay with a significant, but non-majority segment of folks like me. You go your way, I'll go mine. But don't insult me by telling me to "move on". Move on, in your case, means, do it like I do with my priorities. You know what, if Apple had continued to supply a headphone jack with a high quality DAC, people like you still could do bluetooth headphones. Apple has left folks like me in the ditch. I could have been included, and you wouldn't have been affected, but no. That didn't happen. Stop gloating. Bluetooth is inferior to wired sound reproduction. i have, indeed, moved on. Apple lost a bit of business with me and a few others. Enjoy your earbuds.
I apologize for being personally derogatory here, but please don't tell me I need to "seriously move on" when I know of what I speak. Carry on. There is life beyond Apple. The muse and great sound will survive, regardless.
Most folks of the bluetooth persuasion won't get it, but I wish I could set up a demo illustrating the difference in sound quality between "earbud" quality bluetooth speaker systems and highest quality wired systems interfaced to great DACs (digital to analog converters). I currently have an LG V40, with 4 channel DAC and attendant software for fine adjustment and equalization, interfaced to an old "ancient" 3.5 mm headphone jack. I have a sound bar, which has both bluetooth and 3.5 mm connections, which I can connect to the V40. If I do bluetooth, the soundbar informs me "bluetooth connected", and I get standard bluetooth sound - fine for talk shows and general radio stuff. If I hook the soundbar up to the V40 with a phone jack wire, the soundbar informs me something to the effect, "digital sound adjustments avaliable" (I'm paraphrasing). The difference in sound is way obvious. I mention the soundbar, as it is an easy means to contrast bluetooth with wired sound interfaces. Just saying.
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Wireless charging is a good thing, mainly in that it reduces the need to repeatedly plug in to a hardware port. You can avoid the wear and tear which will eventually compromise the hardware port, whether it be lightning or USB-C. My LG V40 charges quite nicely in a wireless cradle.