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GPS Issues?
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What scale do we have? A 9 page thread on Macrumors with many of the same people posting in it? It could be less than 1% of beta users have an issue with GPS for all we know.
Thanks to the person who suggested the GPS Diagnostic app earlier, I now see why I get perfect results when navigating, even though I have a GSM 7+. It seems that when I plug in the phone to the car for Carplay I get GPS. Unplugged it uses cellular/wifi/Bluetooth.
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edit: Seems it's known and expected that CarPlay uses the vehicles GPS unit if available
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme...ay-and-wont-love-it-and-likewise-android-auto
Plugged
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edit: Seems it's known and expected that CarPlay uses the vehicles GPS unit if available
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme...ay-and-wont-love-it-and-likewise-android-auto
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I agree. Some of the people on this forum are very vocal about certain issues and they almost made me skip the public beta because I thought that it was a bigger issue than it is. I installed it the first day it came out and I haven't had any GPS issues on my X. Other than a few minor issues here and there that are expected, I am completely happy with the public beta.
I think we can say at this point with a fairly high degree of confidence that all GSM phones are affected. However, the actual impact of that might be lower than it sounds at first. Wifi and cellular do a decent(ish) jobin built up areas and, as I discovered, CarPlay also allows the use of the car's GPS.
However if you fall into that special place on the Venn diagram where you rely on a phone for precise location and a) it is GSM, b) you don't have CarPlay and/or are navigating somewhere other than the car, c) installed a beta on a primary device you rely on for a) and require in circumstance b) then you probably don't have much grounds for complaint.
My phone has had zero issues with GPS and I have a GSM phone(Intel if you really need to know). Wifi and cellular cannot give you the degree of accuracy that you see when the GPS is working properly. You can tell this from the size of circle around your "gps dot" in maps. When you're on wifi/cellular the radius of the circle is massive because the accuracy is not great when it's not using GPS.
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I'm on wifi and cellular right now, as confirmed by the GPS diagnostics app. There is no blue circle around me in Maps and I am, visually, placed fairly accurately in the building I'm in. GPS Diagnostics is quoting a +/- 214 feet accuracy. In short, you're wrong.
Edit: actually, for the sake of correctness, I have a very small blue ring.
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If you're in an area where you can get 200 ft accuracy then the radius would be only 100 feet around you so yes you'll see a smaller circle. I bought that app just to show you I’m on GPS and apparently I have a GPS issue because I have a GSM phone.
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Good for you. I think if you read through this, its not a few people. Have no idea what percentage of users this is affecting, though you don't get to 212 posts with only a few people complaining.
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I did not know that the vehicle GPS factored in. Makes sense, though. I'll have to check my plugged in/not plugged in satellite status.
+/- 158 feet is still pretty terrible isn't it? Isn't accuracy normally like 10-20 ft?
That's great. Once again I did not say in absolute terms that all GSM phones had the issue. The evidence pointed strongly that way, hence my assertion of having a "high degree of confidence". Out of interest, so we can further narrow down the issue - what's the model number of your phone?
I note that your accuracy with GPS is only 158 feet, not massively different from the 200 I saw on wifi/cellular/bluetooth. Doesn't really line up with this
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I didn't know either. I may never have found out if I didn't just happen to remember to test that app this morning before I got out of the car.
So I couldn’t get my iPhone to lock down gps again. Rebooted and toggled Bluetooth and tried gps, still no lock. Tried again and nothing.
So I kept just trying to reboot and opening maps until the animation was smooth (as I was moving).
So maybe the solution is to keep rebooting and trying gps until it locks
So I kept just trying to reboot and opening maps until the animation was smooth (as I was moving).
So maybe the solution is to keep rebooting and trying gps until it locks
So I suggested that you guys reinstall the IPSW (update from B2 to B2 using IPSW) and after about a day, my GPS went badly again. However, I turned off location, bluetooth, and wifi and did it again and after 36 hours I'm still fine (I also haven't been using WiFi as much though). So if it doesn't work the first time, try again
I’d like to try this method but I don’t think there is an IPSW for the public version, which is the only one I have access to
DB2 is the same as PB1, here http://www.ipodhacks142.com/downloa...w-direct-download-links-over-the-air-profile/I’d like to try this method but I don’t think there is an IPSW for the public version, which is the only one I have access to
Good man. Thank you! I knew they were the same but somehow I assumed you need to use the PB1 IPSW to properly get future OTA PB1 updates.
I'm downloading now and will install right after. I'll be able to test the GPS tomorrow so I'll come back then with my experience.
That screenshot was literally right after I came out of a building underground. GPS will take a minute to get more accurate as it sees more satellites.
Anyway some folks are having gaps issues. I’m sure Apple is aware and will fix it.No need to argue about who’s circle is tighter or circle is bigger
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No need to argue about who’s accuracy is better or circle is bigger
True. But it's totally mine. Just sayin'
Seriously though I'm just glad it works in the car. Roadtrip to the Grand Canyon tomorrow!
I installed the waze update today and used it all day with no issues. Not sure what caused the change.