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Mr. Joz. This was not needed if Apple had implemented it long time ago. Better late than never. Bring it on for the iPhone 15 Pro/Pro lineup. This world is ready to say Goodbye to the lightning connector.

It is time and it’s got to go. 😎
They were making too much money with the “Made for IPhone” certification for lighting cables to give a damn about USB-C.
 
The ‘bad copy’ can do much more things than that ‘innovation”, and Apple is the first to implement the ‘bad copy’ on laptops.
And the last to implement the 'do-much-more' port on phones and even smaller devices. Apple pushed for a smaller USB-C standard and was rejected. Innovation doesn't mean best, just first to get it work. That's why no one is flying around in the Brother's Wright innovative airplane. It belongs into a museum to be admired by mankind. Shame on everyone who throws away their old Lightning cables, without reminiscing about the blessing they brought.
 
Or go all in on Magsafe and ditch the cable altogether.
I have negative desire to buy a slow MagSafe cable that I’ll never use for only iPhone and AirPods. I have much desire to carry one USB-C power adapter and one USB-C cable when traveling.

You know — one cable to charge my Switch, Mac, battery packs, iPhone AirPods, etc. I’m tired of packing cable spaghetti.
 
Oh, yes it is! An innovation is the very first application of a new improvement. Lightning was the first symmetrical connector that would go in either way. USB-C is not as good, because it's bigger and less innovative. Copying someone else's great idea, never gives you the same bragging rights. The LG Prada doesn't live on in high regards, because apparently a touchscreen wasn't by far the only innovation of the first iPhone. Only Apple can deliver this level of software and hardware integration that makes all the magic. 🧙‍♂️
So you’re okay with the slow transfer speeds on a “Pro” phone? You’d take innovative but slow over standard and fast?
 
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Disappointing that the AirPods Pro 2nd Generation stuck with the lightning connector. Maybe next year I will finally upgrade my iPhone XS, and I’ll wait for Gen 3 AirPods Pro.
 
So does this mean we're stuck with the USB-C form factor forever? If no device can have a different connector how do we ever get to what comes after USB-C?
The same way any other standard gets updated, either a govt or industry working group submits and codifies the next standard and proposes it for adoption… I keep seeing this comment like plug standards are somehow completely alien to people even though you use standardized plugs for a variety of devices every day…
 
Time to start saving for replacements for the lightning accessory devices I own … ugh.
My plan is to upgrade those things when I normally would; I never plug my AirPods-3 in so if the new ones are USB-C thats fine, but I have no specific need for a USB-C version of the case. Until then I have no problem just using my Lightning cable..
 
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Disappointing that the AirPods Pro 2nd Generation stuck with the lightning connector. Maybe next year I will finally upgrade my iPhone XS, and I’ll wait for Gen 3 AirPods Pro.
I’d bet $100 that the next APP update is a new case with USBC, the same way they updated the case for magsafe without updating anything else
 
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LOL at 'not buy cheap cables' :rolleyes: Because 'cheap' cables wear out the female connector on the MacBook side? That's a new one for me. I have more $50 Thunderbolt 3/4 cables than I can count. Nothing to do with price my man.



OH RLY?
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/usb-c-power-cable-noticeably-looser-than-others.2055160/
Correlation.
In the news. Not random online posts.

For all we know it’s bad luck one in a hundred million chance
 
So you’re okay with the slow transfer speeds on a “Pro” phone? You’d take innovative but slow over standard and fast?
I reject the idea of Pro phones altogether. Just like Apple, I wish to get rid of the need to transfer data via cable . Unfortunately we're not there yet and a faster port (maybe USB-C) is needed. Faster is better, but innovation also quite literally means first to be better. USB-A was also a standard and USB-C broke with its port-compatibility, after learning from the innovative Lightning port that a better plug was even needed. So tell me, why does the charging cable of my mouse (which transfers no data whatsoever) need to standardized on a bigger plug with thicker cables?
 
Lightning is so much better as a connector, and thinner too. I bet USB-D will look like this.
 
thank God

Prices will increase because they no longer have their propriety charger. People will pick up cords for 99 cents and not spending $30 on an apple cord made in China for 15 cents.
 
Thanks for making the new AirPods Pro 2 use the Lightning cable!

Also, since you love the Earf 🌎 so much, offer a recycling program? Oh, that’s right…loving the Earf is code for “going green.” 💵
 
So does this mean we're stuck with the USB-C form factor forever? If no device can have a different connector how do we ever get to what comes after USB-C?

I've wondered this myself. I definitely want USB-C on the iPhone and wish Apple would just implement these things on their own, but forcing them to use a certain connector does bring up the obvious question of what happens when a company invents a faster, better connection. How can they implement such a connection if the law says they have to use a certain one? I'm sure its been discussed and maybe there are provisions allowing such a thing, but it is an obvious question to ask.
 
I've wondered this myself. I definitely want USB-C on the iPhone and wish Apple would just implement these things on their own, but forcing them to use a certain connector does bring up the obvious question of what happens when a company invents a faster, better connection. How can they implement such a connection if the law says they have to use a certain one?
The law says they have to use whichever connector is the current standard. There is nothing preventing a new connector standard if it is a lot better.
I'm sure its been discussed and maybe there are provisions allowing such a thing, but it is an obvious question to ask.
It has already been asked and answered in this thread.
 
Correlation.
In the news. Not random online posts.

For all we know it’s bad luck one in a hundred million chance
You know that 'in the news' these days is often sourced from 'random online posts', right?

Since no one here has warranty RCA data directly Apple, anecdotal is all we're ever going to have.
 
You guys seem generally happy with the EU's decision, despite this meaning that innovation is now essentially regulated in the EU (and probably elsewhere, unless Apple produce different devices for non-EU markets) in respect of data and power cables
USB-C might not be the perfect connector - but it is designed to be reasonably future-proof and should accommodate any future charging standard that involves pushing electrons down a bit of wire. And, as several people have pointed out (and been ignored), the actual text of the EU directive allows for keeping the standard under review as technology changes, and to allow for purely wireless devices etc.

The only "innovation" that this will regulate is the sort of "innovation" that goes: "Let's unnecessarily use a non-standard connector for our new product so that everybody has to buy new accessories. Magical". At worst, the EU ruling is unnecessary because the industry has pretty much standardised on USB-C (for mobile devices) anyway, and even Apple uses standard sockets on the charger side - I've been using Apple iDevice chargers to charge Androids, Kindles, micro-USB headphones etc. for years.

This is actually a win for Apple - they can change the iPhone to USB-C (which makes sense in lots of ways and is probably what they were going to do anyway) and, when people moan about needing new earbuds, blame the EU (...instead of blaming themselves for not switching to USB-C years ago).

and there was much hand wringing over the lack of USB-A plugs...

Well, yes, because, overnight, they went religiously USB-C only on full sized laptops that had plenty of space for a mixture of connectors back in 2016 when USB-C devices were like hens' teeth. It wasn't just that you needed USB-A adapters or new cables, it was that you lost half of your high-speed I/O and external display capability as soon as you plugged in a charger. On iPhones there's a good reason why you can't fit a USB-A or DisplayPort connector without needing a dongle anyway. The mystery was why Apple was prematurely evangelical about USB-C on laptops - where the overnight switch caused problems for many - and didn't extend that to mobile devices where USB-C actually made sense, and nixed most of the advantages that Lightning had over microUSB.
 
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