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Yes, but their margins on BTO upgrades will be fairly high nonetheless.
Yup. But that’s to compensate for lower margins on entry level models. Across the mix of all configs sold in their various quantities, they’ve got to get a certain ASP and it’s associated gross margin. Hardware gm is about 32%, net margin about 20%.

When they used to report ASP, I was always surprised at how low it was. Like ~$1,300 across all Macs. That tells us Apple sells a lot of MBA and a ton of the entry level models overall. We’re not typical here :)
 
I was really hoping for a 10th Gen Intel, but I doubt it is ready for the MacBook Pro. I can't remember the time Apple had advance access to Intels and released computers with them just as the processors debuted.

Apple could move to Comet Lake-U (which has a new memory controller from Ice Lake and therefore would be able to offer 32 GB RAM), but that would be a bit of a regression.

They'll probably just stick to Coffee Lake Refresh, maybe at a slight clock bump, and then offer Comet Lake-H next summer.
 
You do now it is called a egpu box with a 700 watts and a Radeon pci over thunderbolt 3.

Plus this model will have a AMD processor designed for portable gaming.

Yes I know about eGPUs. And I also know how severely bottlenecked they are through TB3. This still doesn't change the fact that the internal GPUs are always weak in macbook pros, and as I said, I just wish for the OPTION to be able to pay more to get a better dedicated GPU in my macs.

I honestly don't really understand your argument here, if you really are trying to say people who want more powerful GPUs should just buy an eGPU? Talk about killing the portability and clean setup for a macbook pro alone. The razer blade 15 is pretty much same form factor and has a RTX 2080.
 
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MagSafe ain't gonna happen. I understand it was a great connector, but it only had one purpose, and only worked on one device. USB-C is great in the sense that I can plug the charger into any of the ports (both sides) depending on what's best. I can also use any 3rd party charger, or docking station charger, or anything really to charge the computer. This is great! And a bigger benefit than what MagSafe gave us.

SD Card slots are becoming obsolete in the next years. So I don't see the point. Most professional cameras are going to transition to CFExpress in the next years. The change has partially already happened with XQD, and now that CFExpress is formally launching every professional camera manufacturer is gonna start moving to XQD/CFExpress. Only prosumer and consumer equipment is gonna keep on using SD cards ...

And XQD/CFExpress cards are too big to fit into an Apple laptop anyway.

A small tweak to the back two USB-C ports could make it dual function MagSafe port.

There's enough SD Card hardware still being produced that SD card support makes sense. Yes, the pro gear will slowly migrate to CFexpress but thats going to take years. Right now Nikon is using a custom storage system (XQD) in addition to SD card. So SD is not going away that fast (They learned from Apples cold turkey move to USB-C - Big mistake!)

Still need, want! Two USB-A ports as well as the USB-C ports!
 
Yup. But that’s to compensate for lower margins on entry level models. Across the mix of all configs sold in their various quantities, they’ve got to get a certain ASP and it’s associated gross margin. Hardware gm is about 32%, net margin about 20%.

When they used to report ASP, I was always surprised at how low it was. Like ~$1,300 across all Macs. That tells us Apple sells a lot of MBA and a ton of the entry level models overall. We’re not typical here :)

Yeah, absolutely. I think Apple gave some rough numbers on the pro portion of the Mac when they had the Mac Pro roundtable?
 
Imagine if this matching came in Midnight Green? I would buy it just for that alone.
 
Seems to me that going from 15.4" to 16" is more like a 8% increase in screen size. You have to square the ratio.

new area = old area * [16/15.4]**2 = 1.07944
 
Yes I know about eGPUs. And I also know how severely bottlenecked they are through TB3. This still doesn't change the fact that the internal GPUs are always weak in macbook pros, and as I said, I just wish for the OPTION to be able to pay more to get a better dedicated GPU in my macs.

I honestly don't really understand your argument here, if you really are trying to say people who want more powerful GPUs should just buy an eGPU? Talk about killing the portability and clean setup for a macbook pro alone. The razer blade 15 is pretty much same form factor and has a RTX 2080.
There is no reason that Apple working with AMD has not created a new gaming processor for this model.
 
It's not the chip, it's the thermal management.
If the chip and ram and hard drive and gpu are performing to spec, and delivering performance at or near top of class, what is your concern with the thermals? You suggested super thermal throttling. What is being throttled?
 
1st gen touchbar: Don't buy, it's first gen.
2nd gen touchbar: Don't buy, it still sucks.
3rd gen touchbard: Don't buy, it still sucks.
4th gen touchbar: Same.
1st gen 16 inch: Don't buy, it's first gen.

It's so strange to find myself in a situation where buying an Apple product seems like a huge risk and a potential poor decision. I sure hope this one won't suck.

Though to be honest, an imperceptibly larger screen, slightly higher resolution, better speakers and microphone don't sound like that much of a big upgrade unless you use the mic and speakers a lot. A "downgraded" keyboard is probably what it's all about, which to be fair isn't "new", it's just how keyboards used to be before the touchbar. So unless there's a new feature we don't know about, this is just the MacBook Pro that the first touchbar should have been several years ago.
 
It should be interesting to see if it is announced as soon as claimed, guess it means it won't be an event but it will still be fun to read about it on the website.
 
Yup. But that’s to compensate for lower margins on entry level models. Across the mix of all configs sold in their various quantities, they’ve got to get a certain ASP and it’s associated gross margin. Hardware gm is about 32%, net margin about 20%.

When they used to report ASP, I was always surprised at how low it was. Like ~$1,300 across all Macs. That tells us Apple sells a lot of MBA and a ton of the entry level models overall. We’re not typical here :)
But, we're talking about just the Apple cost per MacBook Pro. Yes, they may sell MANY more base models than the Pro or BTO. I believe the MBA was their biggest money maker in terms of volume sales for notebooks and may still be with the newly released one. But, breaking it down to the Pro line and increased upgrade prices on a per total cost to Apple. The R&D, design, development, tooling & manufacturing costs were all cleared long ago with the sales of the '16 MBP. This "new" 16" MBP may not change very much and could most likely have the same overall machining requirements for the casing, main board, etc. The increased screen dimensions can be achieved easily in the current '16-19 MBP line, along with replacement of the keyboard in the top. The TB isn't going any where. And good luck if they have changed the dimensions of keys to incorporate an "ESC". Until there is a major redesign, then the Apple line of products are more modular in terms of differences between years/models. Overall, this MBP will probably not be different from the footprint and after teardowns, overall design for including components, than the original '16 MBP.
So, Apple makes a RIDICULOUS profit for their computers in comparison to the plethora of other manufacturers, such as Dell, HP, Acer, ASUS, and so on.
 
Seems to me that going from 15.4" to 16" is more like a 8% increase in screen size. You have to square the ratio.

new area = old area * [16/15.4]**2 = 1.07944

You're overthinking this. Gurman didn't specifically say "area". He said "size", which is ambiguous and honestly not that useful. He probably means, as has been rumored for a long time, that it will go 16".
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Is this it, the end of the line? No more daily 16" rumor threads?

Not if Gurman posts another tweet.

Or Gruber.

Or anyone.

Not to mention there will be at least three more threads if Apple does say something tonight.
 
However, I'm telling you confidently, after owning the bad 2017 and 2018 keyboards (both which failed on me) I really like the 2019 version.
And as mentioned, keys on the 2019 version are slowly failing for my colleague. I'm not willing to purchase another butterfly model (but unfortunately I urgently need one, it was a mistake to buy a 256GB SSD in 2016).
 
Professionals will rely on dongles regardless, as they are generally dealing with multiple card types already, and have for many years: CF, CFast, SD (UHS-I/UHS-II), XQD, CFExpress, SxS, etc.

Very few truly professional equipment use SD.

My new Nikon D4S still offers SC card support! And I still have a 2015 15" MacBook Pro because it still supports SD cards!
 
Awesome news, but it'll be of absolutely no interest to me whatsofrickinever if the keyboard is not fixed.
 
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