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All I want is an OPTION to upgrade to a better GPU. It's always the weakest part of the mac. Always holding it back.
You do now it is called a egpu box with a 700 watts and a Radeon pci over thunderbolt 3.

Plus this model will have a AMD processor designed for portable gaming.
 
We don't know that yet, issues sometimes take months and years to develop. I don't trust the 2019 butterfly keyboard to hold until e.g. 2023, do you? And Apple doesn't seem to trust the 2019 keyboard either, or why would they now (presumably) release a non-butterfly keyboard?
They got the 2019 butterfly keyboard so right that they are going back to a normal keyboard.
The short answer to both posts is consumer confidence.

Even if you made the perfect product, if consumers don’t trust it they won’t buy it...unless you offer a generous warranty. The warranty is a market signal just as going to a scissor keyboard is another kind of signal. Both are aimed at promoting consumer confidence.
 
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"thereby improving dictation"

Apple will need to do a lot more work on MacOS dictation for this to be an effective way to get work done on a MacBook Pro. Intuit discontinued their (poorly done) Mac version of their Dragon dictation software last year and the new, improved dictation in Catalina is unimpressive so far and only allows adding custom words one at a time.
 
So you're saying $2,000, $3,000 and even higher DSLR and Mirrorless cameras are being replaced by the iPhone? No, there is a lot of demand for sd cards and for my its a need. I have two cameras and both have SD cards.

Professional cameras are already moving to XQD/CFExpress, especially now that CFExpress is launching. This change has been happening for years already, but with the release of CFExpress it's really going to shift in the next year. That will leave some prosumer and mostly only consumer cameras using SD cards in the future. The MacBook Pro should cater to professional users, and they won't be using SD cards for that much longer. And XQD/CFExpress cards are a bit bigger and bulkier than SD.
 
Apple does not want you to use a $2,000 camera, that's what they designed the iPhone for, and on the long run they seem to assume that anyone who's not a professional filmmaker will abandon such cameras.
What apple wants is immaterial, the other member was stating that everyone was moving towards the phone cameras and so the SD card is a dead technology. All I'm saying is that there are plenty of hobbyists (like myself) and professionals that use mirrorless and DLSRs and there's no way that the iPhone can compete with these classes of cameras.

Not having an SD card is an impediment and requires photographers who use macs to go the dongle route.
 
To date, there have been no complaints about the 2019 keyboard.
My colleague has a 2019 15" MBP and her keys sometimes get stuck. But as a graphics designer she doesn't type as much as I do, so she doesn't care much – plus, a repair means not having a computer to work on for a couple of days. Which is an issue for many. So yes, there are faulty 2019 keyboards. Even if you personally haven't heard of any complaint yet.
 
The short answer to both posts is consumer confidence.

Even if you made the perfect product, if consumers don’t trust it they won’t buy it...unless you offer a generous warranty. The warranty is a market signal just as going to a scissor keyboard is another kind of signal. Both are aimed at promoting consumer confidence.

Agreed.

No matter what improvements Apple made in the 2019 keyboard, consumers no longer trust nor want it.

The scissor keyboard is a better choice anyhow. Even the fact it allows more finger travel is a huge plus.
 
Take my money. Now let’s hope for 512GB as base storage ;)

The $2,400 base model needs to come with the Vega 16 standard and the $2,800 needs to come standard with the Vega 20

I need a good reason to exchange my 2019 Vega 20

I really care about the better screen... I care more about having the 4 year old 555/560x card in a $2500+ machine
 
What apple wants is immaterial, the other member was stating that everyone was moving towards the phone cameras and so the SD card is a dead technology. All I'm saying is that there are plenty of hobbyists (like myself) and professionals that use mirrorless and DLSRs and there's no way that the iPhone can compete with these classes of cameras.

Not having an SD card is an impediment and requires photographers who use macs to go the dongle route.

Professionals will rely on dongles regardless, as they are generally dealing with multiple card types already, and have for many years: CF, CFast, SD (UHS-I/UHS-II), XQD, CFExpress, SxS, etc.

Very few truly professional equipment use SD.
 
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The short answer to both posts is consumer confidence.

Even if you made the perfect product, if consumers don’t trust it they won’t buy it...unless you offer a generous warranty. The warranty is a market signal just as going to a scissor keyboard is another kind of signal. Both are aimed at promoting consumer confidence.
Apple hasn't earned consumer confidence in the 3 years of butterfly keyboards and rightfully so. Thanks to Apple's failures (and Ive's desire for "thinness"), consumers will never be confident on a butterfly keyboard and will trust scissor keyboards.
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Professionals will rely on dongles regardless, as they are generally dealing with multiple card types already, and have for many years: CF, CFast, SD (UHS-I/UHS-II), XQD, CFExpress, SxS, etc.

Very few truly professional equipment use SD.
Not all professionals are artists.... and if you do any server or networking you'll see a wide variety of devices that use SD cards.

Given the lack of performance on Macs over the past six years smart professionals probably use PC for media creation. There is nothing special about Apple.
 
No matter what improvements Apple made in the 2019 keyboard, consumers no longer trust nor want it.

The scissor keyboard is a better choice anyhow. Even the fact it allows more finger travel is a huge plus.
There's your explanation why people are hoping for a release of a 13" with non-butterfly keyboard. Even if it has been updated 6 months ago.
 
There's your explanation why people are hoping for a release of a 13" with non-butterfly keyboard. Even if it has been updated 6 months ago.

Oh, absolutely!

It's just not going to happen now.

You will probably see a refresh in March. They are not going to refresh the same laptop twice in a year.

And I am not defending the butterfly over the scissor. The scissor is better.

However, I'm telling you confidently, after owning the bad 2017 and 2018 keyboards (both which failed on me) I really like the 2019 version.
 
That said we definitely agree OLED keys should happen to dramatically simplify i18n & manufacturing of Macbook Pros.

Wha?

Sure, OLED keys are kind of an interesting concept (or they were when first teased by Optimus a decade and a half ago), but they sure as hell don't "dramatically simplify" anything. Painting different keycaps isn't that complicated. Having over a hundred little screens with hundreds of pixels each, OTOH, makes manufacturing, reliability and repair way more complicated.
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Apple does not want you to use a $2,000 camera, that's what they designed the iPhone for, and on the long run they seem to assume that anyone who's not a professional filmmaker will abandon such cameras.

Apple is under no illusion that an iPhone can replace the specialized requirements of multi-thousand-dollar cameras.

It can replace 90+% of camera requirements, but not high-end stuff.
 
Wha?

Sure, OLED keys are kind of an interesting concept (or they were when first teased by Optimus a decade and a half ago), but they sure as hell don't "dramatically simplify" anything. Painting different keycaps isn't that complicated. Having over a hundred little screens with hundreds of pixels each, OTOH, makes manufacturing, reliability and repair way more complicated.

Indeed. Imagine the keyboard replacement cost. And people complaining about dead pixels on their keyboards. Ridiculous.
 
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Power? Have you got it?

I hope finally something worth buying (for me).
Been hoping since 2016, staying with 2015 MBP.

Seriously why? I got the '15 and I see 0 reason to upgrade, my understanding is whatever the speed bumps are they are negligible compared to the price and I do get to miss on the ports and Magsafe.
 
Oh, absolutely!

It's just not going to happen now.

You will probably see a refresh in March. They are not going to refresh the same laptop twice in a year.

And I am not defending the butterfly over the scissor. The scissor is better.

However, I'm telling you confidently, after owning the bad 2017 and 2018 keyboards (both which failed on me) I really like the 2019 version.

Agree Apple only has so many new design scissor keyboard so if you put it in a more costly model and build inventory over the next 5 months you have keyboards for the more mainstream model.
 
Apple hasn't earned consumer confidence in the 3 years of butterfly keyboards and rightfully so. Thanks to Apple's failures (and Ive's desire for "thinness"), consumers will never be confident on a butterfly keyboard and will trust scissor keyboards.
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Not all professionals are artists.... and if you do any server or networking you'll see a wide variety of devices that use SD cards.

Given the lack of performance on Macs over the past six years smart professionals probably use PC for media creation. There is nothing special about Apple.
Exactly my point on the keyboard. 👍

I don’t get your comment regarding mac’s lack of performance. The 15inch i9 ranks right up there on most testing. Machines that give better performance on one test usually do worse on another. There isn’t a perfect machine that does everything super fast with all day battery life and is light.
 
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They announced a price drop for storage this year, didn't they?
NVMe 1TB drives are 40-50% the charge of the "upgrade" price by Apple. These are fully functional, independent drives from manufacturers for purchase by consumers. The Apple upgrade is them having the factory to solder on a different flash chip or add additional flash chips to the main board existing pads. So, they can batch order a certain number of 1TB main boards that aren't that much more in cost to them (additional cost for the increased capacity chip), over the 256GB. So, like a fast food restaurant, I may charge you $5 for a burrito but you really want two more toppings on it. That's $1/each and now that burrito cost you $7. Oh you wanted a drink, that's $2 for a product that has a total cost to the business $0.20-0.30. Same principle at fueling stations. The money is not made on the fuel but the inside sales. This principle is applied at movie theaters. You can see these price models at theme parks. The least amount of money is made on the base model per components/features offered.
 
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A reliable keyboard and physical escape key is what devs are after. No SD card sucks—when they removed floppy they at least replaced it with another fledgeling solution that had technical superiority. They removed SD-card and didn't at least work with camera companies to provide a wireless-mount replacement solution? Apple has the talent. Why not? They basically said f-u to pro and am photographers—"go get your cable from the bag up stairs, b****". "Go buy a dock...go dongletown". No MagSafe, no cord management and no charge-status light also sucks. Backward innovation? Keyboards that don't work? Where is all of this headed? Thankfully, they are apparently fixing this disastrous 4-year keyboard mess. They made their phones thicker when we complained loud enough. Now fix the rest of the issues with these Mac portables. Make them more practical and useful again. Think of users.
My Nikon Z7 works fine by plugging it into a USB port. I can import into Lightroom direct from the XQD card on the camera.

I will miss the SD card as I upload routes to my TomTom that way but I have a USB/SD adapter that will do the job perfectly.

I hope that the 1TB storage option is not outrageous in price. My 2015 MBP has a 1TB SSD and there is 200Gb free. 600Gb of that is taken up with the photos I've shot this year.
 
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